From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #321 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Sunday, October 31 1999 Volume 02 : Number 321 Today's Subjects: ----------------- making up for lost posting time [Valerie Barry ] lyric threads ["Julia Rios" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 09:46:11 -0400 From: Valerie Barry Subject: making up for lost posting time paige laments: >I still can't sing that yeah on the right beat. After >10,389 tries... ...it took me a long time to get it, but keep trying, it's worth it. kinda like that little "ow!" scream at the beginning of "seether" by veruca salt. also...julia, thanks for saying what was in my head a thousand times more eloquently than i could hope to do. i agree with nicole that links to articles, rather than full-text, should be posted to the list, and i actually liked the idea of labeling messages for their liz content level, although in reality, it would be impossible to enforce and end up one of those laws on the books that people make fun of. hello to shelly, dana p., katie, tad, jeff, and where the hell is jaime? parents music...hmmm...in particular i remember a lot of dylan (which i really didn't like as a child), the beatles "sgt. pepper...", the barbra streisand christmas album that's kinda blue with her under a spotlight on the cover, lots of hit radio that i used to sing along with constantly (explaining the fact that i know every word to almost every populsr song from the mid-70's, as well as my penchant for neil diamond, barry manilow, and others of their ilk - love that word, 'ilk'), and my aunt had these warner brothers albums full of novelty songs from the 60's (and 70's?)..."the streak," "my boomarang won't come back," "shaving cream," etc., that i used to *love*. and my mom loved "proud mary," (her name is betty, not mary). tried unsuccessfully to convert a co-worker to liz. i lent him WS, but he couldn't get over the fact that he feels she doesn't try to use her voice to its fullest potential. but he liked the music, and at least it's exposure! still need to think about my favorite liz lyrics. i'm not very good at superlatives...too much pressure, they make me feel locked in, like i can't change my mind (as we women are wont to do). in my own, diplomatic way, i think that, although there is an inherent coolness in true liz fans (see the ever-astute dennis kim's post from #319 for a "definition"), the unenlightened don't necessarily suck. yes, music taste is subjective, and certain artists attract a more open-minded, educated (through books *and/or* life, mind you), witty fan base. and i'm glad of that...there are a lot of people in the world, and a lot of people we will all meet over our lifetimes. if music taste helps us with the first tier of the "weeding out" process (as far as friendships go), is that really wrong? i say this with the assumption that there is *never* a place for hostitily, even for today's britney spears fans or people like my old roommate who didn't realize peopel continued to make music after the release of def leppard's "hysteria" (a fine piece of work, i must say). i mean, many list members, like christine in #319, were into bubble gum BOY bands such as NKOTB and new edition, or pre-fab girls like tiffany and ms. gibson, in the 80's, and have all developed into fine young liz fans (musical puberty?). NKOTB and their ilk (ooh! twice in one post!) were the britneys and boy bands of the 80's. the kids don't know any better, and the best will rise above. what the hell am i talking about, anyway...thanks for reading! off to do dishes, shower, and go to the lovely north georgia mountains where i hope to run across a little bluegrass. hey pacific northwesterners...i'm going to seattle/olympia over thanksgiving. what should i *not* miss? babbling, and wishing i was going to see either ratt or kristen hersh tonight, valerie *********************************************************** "...well look at me i'm frightening my friends..." - -Liz Phair ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:20:34 GMT From: "Julia Rios" Subject: lyric threads I would like to state for the record that Emily has very good taste in favorite lines. As it stands I can't pick one favorite line though i have tried, but as far as singing along or having a helpful liz song, i tend to sing in the car when i drive especially if i am concentrating and the best ever time was when i was int he middle of a very stressful interchange and gon on ahead was playing. I was trying to navigate the lanes to get into the right place and without even being aware of it i began singing louder and louder and for one moment i was overwhelmed with a feeling of oneness. i was one with the song. then the tricky part of the driving lessened and i became more self conscious and aware of my friends and i stopped singing so loudly and became a separate entity from the song. but for that second or two it was awesome. julia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V2 #321 ************************************