From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #305 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Friday, October 15 1999 Volume 02 : Number 305 Today's Subjects: ----------------- The 2 for 1 deal ["Bad Dreams" ] i've been brainwashed [raymond lew ] Liz sold out with WCSE? ["Morgan Hartsell" ] The Momus Report Lives...sorta... [Momus ] cdr of phairities ["Jaimee Kudrle" ] deceive inveigle obfuscate: the 1013 edition [Ascending to the Stars Subject: The 2 for 1 deal Well, basically the reason why everyone's mad at this guy, is that the mere fact that he thought we were stupid enough to take his 2-for-1+postage deal in a bit of an insult. If he wanted a dumb bunch of traders he should sign with the Britney Spears mailing list... END ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 22:44:52 -0700 (PDT) From: raymond lew Subject: i've been brainwashed <> on the topic of copyrights, there's only 2 copyrights for each song: one for performance and one for sound recording (hence the PA and SR copyright forms that you can get from the gov't). the PA copyright refers to a song's, music/melody/lyrics--thus, artists such as weird al and puff sampler daddy actually pay fees before they parody/rip-off other artist's works. the SR copyright refers to the actual studio recording of the song. so if volkswagon wants to use stratford-on-guy (taken directly off of eig) in one of their commercials, they have to pay for the SR copyright and the PA copyright. but if they're cheap, they could just have someone else record stratford-on-guy and just pay for the PA copyright. wow...i learned something in my music industry class. oh yeah, i'm making a little excursion to capitol records this friday...i'll be on the lookout for any liz stuff, but i doubt there will be anything around =[ ...ray (who's been visited by weasels once tonight. going on two ;]) **************************************************************************** "I'm a wreck, I'm obsessed, I'm insane. Isn't that what you want me to say?" --Liz Phair the writings on the wall >> www-scf.usc.edu/~rlew beginning to see the light >> www-scf.usc.edu/~rlew/liz_phair **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:03:24 EDT From: "Morgan Hartsell" Subject: Liz sold out with WCSE? Liz sold out with WCSE? A lot of you seem to think that, but, in my opinion, songs like Johnny Feelgood, Baby Got Going, Headache, and maybe Ride are among her least mainstream, most experimental-sounding stuff ever. What Makes You Happy and Polyester Bride, however, I'll have to get back to you on. They are a tad pop, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, obviously, because those are still good songs. I think Liz is entitled to have one or two pop-y songs. And I'd like to hear the reason why Blood Keeper was left off the album. I personally think it's one of Liz's strongest tracks ever. I guess it could still be released. Who knows???? Latuh. Morgan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:02:05 -0700 From: Momus Subject: The Momus Report Lives...sorta... and for all the shit that just don't fit...get thee over to www.onelist.com and join the future of nothing...the official home of irreverence...the place to post the chaos of your head...do stop in and join 'The Momus Report'... ...the preceding has been a self indulgent and unashamed promotion MrE - -- "Living and dying...we feed the flame" - Clive Barker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 20:51:04 -0500 From: "Jaimee Kudrle" Subject: cdr of phairities I'd like to have phairities on cd as well (I just transferred it to minidisc), but as you may or may not be aware of it is about 90 minutes, a little bit over 1 cd. Soo...I seem to recall a second Phairties, or second edition, or something along those lines? I was thinking some inspired and knowledgeable individual (if I only had the time) could come up with another 50+ minutes of Liz rarities and it could be a 2 CD set and start a tree. I realize it's a lot of work...but I think if everyone on the list put in honest and decent effort and we got over all this trade/profit bullshit, which I haven't really been following...that it might work. Maybe not! Just a fleeting thought...e-mail me if you have any ideas, or the list, or whatever...... Jaimee np: phairities > Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 22:34:31 PDT > From: "a b" > Subject: JFB/Carnivore > Could someone please make me a CDR of Pharities (or GS) ? > Maybe we could do a B & S.A.S.E. :) > It would really make me happy if I could get a copy. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:46:18 -0400 From: Ascending to the Stars Subject: deceive inveigle obfuscate: the 1013 edition or, why college radio is the only thing worth listening to.... someone said it last night (along with underground radio) and here are a few more reasons why. gene speak to me someone smiths frankly, mr shankly (live) quasi let's just go helium revolution of hearts 1&2 the stereo count me out (okay, so the music directors gave this album a great review, but frankly, i hated it!) bratmobile queenie (this rocks!) jen trynin happier murmurs underdog marine research at the lost and found the crabs classic crabs the tentacles the touch kid sampson (cool amherst band) the way i'm feeling now liz phair shatter kristin hersh cathedral heat edith frost tender kiss brilliantine experimental lifestyle (new, and i loved it!) darling buds angels fallen belle and sebastian expectations jale the unseen guest sleater kinney good things the spells the age of backwards robin hitchcock ant woman blake babies i'll take anything aimee mann red vines elliott smith divison day lunchbox wanna reach you ladies who lunch (=viviane formerly of luscious jackson + josephine wiggs of the breeders) everybody's happy nowadays portishead roads american music club gratitude walks madder rose babt gets high liz phair if i ever pay you back (live) boo radleys fairfax scene paris, texas without even kissing samiam (from "where is my mind"-- the pixies tribute) here comes you man that's all for the 1013 edition of decieve inveigle obfuscate. i really hope someone understands why the 1013 edition is so special... okay, of to fix my resume and then to class... (:ruthie:) - -- *******Deceive*******Inveigle*******Obfuscate******* "Wild and unwise, I wanna be mesmerizing, too" "So I hope you all will see, there just isn't a place here for me" --Liz Phair "With you here with me I could be happy ... I miss who I used to be" --Jen Trynin "What's the matter with the truth, did I offend your ears?" --Aimee Mann ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V2 #305 ************************************