From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #294 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Monday, October 4 1999 Volume 02 : Number 294 Today's Subjects: ----------------- misc ["a b" ] Sugar Pop [Juvenilia@aol.com] weasels and ripping flesh again, this happens to damn much... anyone know a remedy? ["Jaime" ] Nothing Is For Free ["M.L. Magdalene" ] Re: Ben Lee Liz Cover..... [TaliaK@aol.com] blah ["Nicole W." ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 23:30:52 PDT From: "a b" Subject: misc Hi, One of my favorite "driving albums" would have to be Pretty Hate Machine, NIN... It's an oldie but a goldie. (And recently rereleased in Canada, Eh.) Another great car album is Black Sunday, Cypress Hill. But it always makes me kind of hyper, you know. I think the best overall song (of all time) is In Dreams by Roy Orbison. It's the voice of an angel. And - I just realized Wasted is about drugs. I always thought it was a song about taking a Vay-Kay (tion.) : ) NE ways - Liz Rocks the House ! JB ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 04:54:23 EDT From: Juvenilia@aol.com Subject: Sugar Pop Supporters.... Well, not to dwell on the whole Vitamin C thread, but for Dan who asked what people thought. about her, I'll give my OPINION (notice I put the big caps on that...) While I was never a huge fan of Eve's Plum, I was in love with their song "Blue" and still tend to put it on every mix tape I make for my friends. When I found out that Colleen was the "C" in Vitamin C, I flipped. Talk about a total 180 degrees. Still, I was intrigued. The single for Colleen's... I'm sorry, Vitamin C's album is called "Smile" and it's very catchy, if trite. But sometimes, I don't feel the need to hear thought-provoking lyrics as long as I'm put in a good mood. I feel "Smile" (and the majority of the album for that matter) does just that. Sure, the album is basically 'sugar-pop', but I find it a bit more respectable for some reason than the Spice Girls and other shit like Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys. Anyway, just thought I'd let Dan know what I thought. I think it's worth it to check out the album...especially of your a Colleen Fitzpatrick completist, but take caution. Some vitamins should be taken in small doses. On a Liz note, If anyone with a kind soul has the accessability and willingness to create a CDR copy of some of the recent shows where Liz has performed "Love/Hate Transmission" and "Firewalker", please let me know. I'm dying for a copy. I'd be willing to set up a trade, of course. Okay, back to obscurity I go.... Still, Robbie NP: Annie Lennox - Medusa ps.) No, I have not abandoned "The Slick Divide". Expect updates soon. THE SLICK DIVIDE http://valmccown.com/lizphair.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 06:08:06 -0400 From: "Jaime" Subject: weasels and ripping flesh again, this happens to damn much... anyone know a remedy? ~gunshy~ Shelly says: |>Woo-hoo!! Damn, and I've been so busy putting my plants in for the |>fall *oooh, how grown up of me...snickering* that I never even thought |>to check if Sleater-Kinney was coming to town anytime soon! Thank you |>thank you Jimmy!! gardening is cool... and sleater-kinney? well the most beautiful person in this world sent me some sleater-kinney, and right now i just put in _dig me out_ and i'll tell you what i think... we have some girl angst, mixed with garage girl sound... sounds nice... some refreshing, cleaner-than-hole-but-maybe-just-as-angry... the singer has a voice id recognize... sort of wavers, quivers... i almost think im listening to the go-gos, if they were cool and had some real feelings... funny though, the songs seem to blend, or maybe i havent listened enough... well, there you go, they seem to have some feeling for what theyre doing... that makes them ok in my book, but for a real analysis, id have to check out the lyrics... ruthie says: |>the end. hope you all enjoyed story time. we all enjoy the 'ruthie' show... refreshing... Greg Henry-god of ck postcards says: |>I have a few more Liz Phair Calvin Klein postcards, and if anyone wants one, yes and thanks for mine, put something in the mail for you today... enjoy! im slack i know... and i really have no excuse... |>Colleen, or Vitamin, sort of did the whole |>Alanis transformation in reverse order I guess. yeah, both fakes out to make hella cash on a debut cd... and then fade off after 2 or 3 failing cds.... why dont people understand that real people want to listen to real music... not manufactured artists and songs... and hey! who the fuck cares about choreography??? not me. 'give me a leonard cohen afterlife'... 'i think im dumb, maybe just happy'... 'the fire you like so much in me is the mark of someone adamently free...' ISNT that what we want... not this backstreet-spice-98 degrees shit??? When i was going through shit i was so happy to have liz and nirvana, hole, pink floyd, sublime... people that express their feelings... fuck all this mass produced -all-out-to-get-the-royalties-shit... I dont want to 'Thank India' !!!!! i want feelings...emotions, anger, sadness, happiness... and thats why i buy a $18.00 cd.... sorry... went off there for a sec... forgive. MrE surprised me with: |>...oh yeah! and i heard there isn't even an album inside the cover...you just get the oh so very LAME ASS |>ninety word |>title...she figures that if she can come up with ninety words, hell, that's all your gonna get. excuse me ms. |>apple, but you |>left out the word PRETENTIOUS...david blaine should have levitated her outta here while he had the chance. okay... fiona has been a bit of a pain in the past, and her debut cd was... well, fucking depressing as hell !!! but she has talent and she has the endurance (i hope) to make it in this world... she knows what its all about, she just needs to express it musically instead of out loud on the music awards-- because that was just lame... justified, but lame... but she doesnt care, and i love fiona for that reason... she doesnt care. and i havent heard the utterly ridiculous titled cd yet... but when i do i am sure i'll hear some musical talent... even if it does make me want to drive off a cliff and die a tortured death... whatever... its just fiona... someday, she'll grow up (she is young...? how young? anyone know???) and she has alot to learn, perhaps this will show in her music and she'll unleash her potential... id like to see it... but now im leaving to surf and roam the net.... a scary thing, but what else do you do, drunk, stoned and all alone at 6:05 am, and you havent slept yet? look for insomniacs or other members of the 11-7 crowd... between posts at ss... they're out there... ~jaime* - -- -- -- -- - " I can grow, despite all you know, you might not recognize me tomorrow..." ~Liz Phair, 'firewalker' - -- -- -- -- - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 09:59:11 EDT From: Veroi9@aol.com Subject: Re: Eve's Plum/Vitamin C > but I am hearing nothing but > HORRID reviews about Vitamin C. I haven't heard it yet..is it bad? Did she > become Britney Spears or something?? Anyone who has heard Vitamin C - let me > know.. the song sounds like a pepsi commercial in my opinion. the lyrics are like "put a smile on your face and make the world a better place" that's pretty much the whole song... i've seen the video on mtv a few times and the song is always on the same station that plays the backstreet boys and shit. i have never heard of eve's plum but that is really sad that someone would sell out like that. jenny veruca salt http://www.angelfire.com/oh/vsalt/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:02:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Subject: Ben Lee Liz cover >Ben Lee at his Melbourne show on Thursday did a Liz Phair cover but this person on the Ben Lee list didn't know what Liz song it was......Sally > I hear Ben Lee does a version of "Perfect World" now and then...that could be.. (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)*(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) "She's still alive, but I am sure, that all the stars belong to her." -HOLE. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 12:33:45 PDT From: "M.L. Magdalene" Subject: Nothing Is For Free Okay Dan--person who thinks that people should send you FOUR blanks when it only takes TWO to copy the CD's. YOU ARE NOT GIVING ANYBODY ANYTHING FOR FREE! If they give you the two CD's plus postage to dub these off you are breaking even if you don't count your time. And to prevent you from retaliating to me and bitching about that--though i have never personally had anyone copy anything for me from this list i've seen it discussed many of times and i have seen NOBODY else ask for ANYTHING more than what it takes to actually make the copies and send them. So quit accusing everyone else of being lame and YOU quit being lame! This thread of your psycho-babble has gone on long enough in my humble opinion--Extend the people on this list the same courtesy that they would extend you--and if it puts you out so much to make these copies that you need two EXTRA blanks then don't do it! There are plenty of others on this list that well do it to spread Liz and the goodness of her through-out the list! I doubt this well sway your decision any..but i'm just tired of you thinking you are right when it seems everyone else thinks you're wrong... M ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 21:35:42 EDT From: TaliaK@aol.com Subject: Re: Ben Lee Liz Cover..... <> Ben often does an accapella version of Perfect World in concert. He started soon after wcse came out. I have an mp3 of it, if anyone would like to volunteer some space to put it up (Mark?) I'll gladly pass it along to that person, but please don't everyone e-mail me for it, I don't want to upload it 50 times. =) "You look like shit, and the smell is even better. And I feel like shit, and I want to go back to bed." ~Liz Phair ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 01:00:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nicole W." Subject: blah I would say to pronounce "Juvenilia" like "juvenile-yuh" pretty much. >so please leave yr witty >and clever comebakcs to yr selves and yes i should learn >to spell i know dan Not to mention how to use the space bar/not use the key. Sorry, it just begged that response. Notice, though, that I have omitted any responses to the bootlegging issue you brought up, so I think I'm in the clear. Oh I'm so bad. Okay I think I had one more thing to comment on, but I can't remember. Hrmm. Ooh I never sent this! Good! (I postponed it on Pine and never returned to it). I have a request: If anyone has or can make an mp3 of "Because" by Elliott Smith (the Beatles cover. It's on teh American Beauty soundtrack if not anywhere else) , please email me. I can't trade mp3s or anything, but I'll just... like be grateful. I feel like such a dumbass. I saw the movie, right? Well when the credits were rolling and this song was playing, I thought it was so beautiful (I already know the Beatles version) but for some reason, since I had already gotten out of my seat when the song started, I didn't want to look weird and sit down again in some other seat to hear the rest of the song, but I should have. Teh beginning sounded so beautiful,a nd I wondered who did it, and I looked it up online today. I haven't heard any of Mr. Smith's original stuff, I dont' think. Except I know my roommate has probzably played some but I just don't know it from something else, ya know? So I won't have remembered hearing it. Anyway, I just really want to hear the rest of his cover of the Beatles song! From what I heard, it is so beautiful! It's like almost an exact replica of the original, but it's so lovely! SOMEBODY HELP ME! Thanks. BTW-- Doesn't ANYONE know who said "insanity is super sanity?" I really need to know! Later, Nicole * * * * * * * * * * * * "Perfect is a fault, and fault lines change." -R.E.M. "Push me and I will resist/ This behavior's not unique" -Pearl Jam "Insanity is super sanity." ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V2 #294 ************************************