From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #268 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Wednesday, September 8 1999 Volume 02 : Number 268 Today's Subjects: ----------------- cd sides, michigan again [Valerie Barry ] negativity and my mindless drivel of a post [brian d irby ] Jason, private schools ["Sally Mae" ] Nothing Shocking ["M.L. Magdalene" ] Michigan/Dream Liz EP ["Persy Grrrl" ] take back your list! ["Jaime" ] Re: support-system-digest V2 #267 [Andy/Seth ] can't not post--sometimes [Meow Grrl ] hippieness is a state of mind.... [LULU428@aol.com] Liz book ["S. Adams" ] Re: support-system-digest V2 #267 [RocketBoyD@aol.com] liz's yrbk, I am back! [Danaldj@aol.com] one more thing....CMJ!!!!! [Danaldj@aol.com] Re: support-system-digest V2 #262 [Talula9695@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 01:18:12 -0400 From: Valerie Barry Subject: cd sides, michigan again Nicole... i, too, have noticed the concept of "sides" is lost on CDs...i tend to view them more as a complete work. plus, it's easier to skip from song to song, eliminating the need to listen to songs you don't like, but perhaps also keeping those songs from growing on us. but list members have mentioned how certian "sides" of liz tapes end, and i can't relate... and...MEIJER ROCKS! you don't know how much i miss meijer! super walmart just don't cut it. hell, my brother works at meijers in battle creek! down here in atlanta, my friend suzanne (who is an ann arbor native) found an old red and white ski cap (fuzzy ball and all) that had both the meijer and the red wings logos on it. So fuckin' cool. and, i think michigan, wisconsin and minnesota should be referred to as the "mid-north", ;'cause they're just not like iowa and kansas (both fine states, of course). ummm...that's all for now. i really must go to bed... vjb *********************************************************** "...well look at me i'm frightening my friends..." - -Liz Phair ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 00:42:43 -0500 From: brian d irby Subject: negativity and my mindless drivel of a post Wow! It got really negative on here suddenly!! Shall we all sing the Barny song? Anyway, that's my ten cents. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:23:04 GMT From: "May Queen" Subject: i think i'm a mother >I just won't, and I'll just hope that maybe somoene else knows what I mean >and will be like "oh yeah!" I don't know. i konw exactly what u mean and agree. i refer in parts. may-b we can start a cult or sumthing. >How many of you male Liz fans are homosexual? i'm not however much you may want me 2 B. =) > >I reaLLY nEED tO watCH mY PaSsioNS! I HavEN'T WatCHeD The laST 3 > >EpiSoDes...... i stayed up until 3-30 am last night watching so no worry. >i didn't go camping if you care but i DID hear > >screaming from the orchard last night at like 11 pm. >why didn't you investigate i am HEATHER but i am NOT going to end up like her.....u wanna see me on leno or sumthing? >outside the door all like whining and shit. I hate Timmy. I hope Fluffy >fucking kills him. so do i. fluffy tore him up yesterday. HA HA! > >i gonna have some peach wine. yum. >Little alcohalic. > >i'm gonna do my peach wine thing again. bye. >Junkie only the best! i'm a supposed former infatuation new peach wine junkie >Kinda like a cat (> >um ani's poetry book is coming out in Nov. and the album (which stars > >Prince > >i hear) is gonna be out last 99. sorry bad info. a 220 pg+ bio called Ani Difranco: Rightious Babe prince is right b/c of a relieble source so cross yer fingers. the poetry book IISSSS coming up though. you better put some change in oour cup or else.......up. > I fucking hate scotch I said I AM HEATHER, you are josh, you hide under the tree with the vine!!!! MQ NP: TBYML again P JARVEY (my pronunce). ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 23:57:02 -0700 From: "Sally Mae" Subject: Jason, private schools >Anyway, I know that a lot of you probably think I'm a bastard by now< I don't think you're a bastard!! Someone (sorry, I've forgotten name) said something about how you could tell how someone went to a private school and I hope, in this comment, you weren't suggesting that people who go or went to private schools are snobs as I go to a private school and don't regard myself as a snob and the majority of the people at my school aren't snobs, some of them are but of course you're gonna have some idiots in a school!! Not trying to offend anyone........Sally "I've always been an introvert, happily bleeding!" 36 Degrees, Placebo *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 00:48:33 PDT From: "M.L. Magdalene" Subject: Nothing Shocking Wow--the digest is really small tonight...hmmmm....... >It probably IS a cult. Liz fans could never be as cultish as Phish >fans >are, Yeah, i mean you think about how people actually FOLLOW them around and make a living off selling random things made of hemp. It's pretty fucking crazy. >i took a taxi from la to venus in 1985 i think. Hella cab fair eh' Timmy? Nothing Shocking... lMnop......... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:32:11 EDT From: "Persy Grrrl" Subject: Michigan/Dream Liz EP I never knew there were so many listers so close to me! I never even met anyone who knew who Liz was until I got into college. I'm going to school in Port Huron, MI, for those of you who have ever heard of it. And if you live close enough, try and tune in my radio show - I'm going to be on WSGR 91.3FM on Friday from 10am-1pm! Of course, being as it's college radio I really only have a broadcast range of 2-3 blocks... Other than that, I have been playing Blood Keeper repeatedly for days now. I didn't much like it when I got the CD's, but now... Would I get in trouble for playing it on the radio if it hasn't been officially released? Could someone enlighten me on that? Imagine if Blood Keeper or White Bird of Texas or Russian Girl became huge regional hits and Liz was forced to release them. A new EP single with the following songs... Blood Keeper White Bird of Texas Russian Girl Firewalker Don't Apologize Bars of the Bed Conversation Overheard Between 2 Bouncers (am I missing anything?) (but we could leave L/H Transmission off, right? ;) p.s. can anyone get me a copy of that song/show, I'm just curious as to what it sounds like. Ah, in a Perfect World. Persy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:00:06 -0400 From: "Jaime" Subject: take back your list! Well... i've been lurking and this list does seem to be in a funk. I've been thinking and I think you might be able to link the fact that school is back in... so alot of list members right now are probably younger... We're used to the same people all the time. I do think some of it is meaningless drivel... (whatever the term) ... but a large part of it is surely related to the timing of the Alan-ass fight.... which made everyone freak, and no one posted ... perhaps no one was reading... and then you add in handful of highschool students posting... and... well, that nate person... Well there you go. The problem is the people who were always posting are not. embrace change... change things yourself... follow nicole's lead... We need some new threads... think on these... * This new cd...? What will be on it...? Will their be more sessions cds? *Love/hate transmission... love it or hate it? *What is Liz doing now... what is she planning? Any more modeling? 'living in a van down by the river' -- ~jaime* motivational speaker - -- -- -- -- - " I can grow, despite all you know, you might not recognize me tomorrow..." ~Liz Phair, 'firewalker' - -- -- -- -- - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 09:33:39 -0400 From: Andy/Seth Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #267 > Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 19:15:56 EDT > From: AGsPackage@aol.com > Subject: Question for the guys! > > How many of you male Liz fans are homosexual? I am! And I'm happy as well. Seth > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:30:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nicole W." Subject: Meesa Nicole Binks Molly (or is it Heather?) said: >I fucking hate scotch. Is it just me, or is that a direct quote from The Movie? You know which movie I'm talking about. The one that sucked the first time and sucked the second time even though I was stoned? The one with the witchy woman. Oooohooo witchy woman... Well Molly I never knew you had it in you to quote that movie. Oh well. Anyway, umm... yeah. Liz content... let me see... Aggg sometimes it just doesn't happen. Okay fine, I posted without any Liz content. But at least I replied to a previous digest. Maybe I can like... think of a thread. Umm... nope. Okay bye, Nicole * * * * * * * * * * * * "Perfect is a fault, and fault lines change." -R.E.M. "Push me and I will resist/ This behavior's not unique" -Pearl Jam ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:02:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Meow Grrl Subject: can't not post--sometimes Hey all Just up from the depths of moving apartments (I feel for you, Jase), then I spent three days in a tent in New Hampshire. I feel invigorated. Hurricane Cindy and dp, hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but “Can’t Not” is the name of an Alanis song on her new album … and her tour two years ago was called: Can’t Not Tour. Ick. Robbie Fulks or whomever was described as alt-country. Alt-country is my new thing, apparently. Nice antidote to non-Liz music that I hate so much these days. Honestly, if it’s not Liz or NPR, I’m not listening to it. BORING! I’m exaggerating, but only slightly. I know about Lucinda Williams, but can anyone else suggest some good alt-country? Like, what’s the best Steve Earle album? Or who else should I pay attention to? I’d also love to catch people as they play around Boston. Lani, props to you for being a teacher, and to anyone else who undertakes this noble calling. I could never do it, and I totally respect those that do. Re: the whole Playboy thing, I bought it last fall for the Katarina Witt photo spread. Tasteful, tasteful, tasteful. Four-year-old Carleen rocks, Michael! Our official Liz mascot. That was such a cool post. sandra __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:05:33 EDT From: LULU428@aol.com Subject: hippieness is a state of mind.... << I don't know if I can break through the hippie music shell and introduce Liz Phair to my roommate. But I shall try. >> hey nicole- i am a huge phish fan and am also as obsessed with Liz so anything is possible. and yeah, the phish thing is like a cult- but- I just absolutely love the music- seeing them live is like pure joy. I am not a big fan of young kids trying to be hippies cause it is cool. I pretty much go to shows, ignore most of the fans, and just close my eyes and dance for 3 hours in bliss (sometimes in an altered state and sometimes not). so not all phish fans are the same. you would never know that my friends and I like phish by just looking at us. although i do own many "hippie" dresses (thats what my brother and my ex call them) and birkenstocks. i just like to be comfortable, really! I like so many different types of music- for example... NP: Master of Puppets - Metallica (I was just in the mood to rock out!) so now I attempt to end the procrastination and get myself prepared for the first day of school. I would much rather write an email than a letter to the parents of my students. oh yeah, go jase go- after having not read the digest all summer, I return to find our precious list resembling a britney spears list. :( save us please!!! later, Lani ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 10:42:02 +1000 From: "S. Adams" Subject: Liz book oooh, umm, this has probably been talked to death about, but if it has, i've missed it, so anyways, has anyone read / seen "The Last Rock Star Book or : Liz Phair, a Rant"? jus wonderin whether its worth it.... > Question for the guys! > >How many of you male Liz fans are homosexual? well, I'm not, but some ppl thought I was,.... mm, so I guess that doesn't count huh.. grrr, this rolling stone mag is buggin me, every chance they get there's a M. Manson photo, and they get plenty of Liz mentions, but not even a teency weency pic - hmm, should that a 'c' in teency? or an 's'? bleh,.. Has Liz ever tried to find her biological parents? or is that not possible? has anyone got info on the reasons for her being put up for adoption, or its only know that she was, and thats that. >Nicole W. wrote > >I know I'm often kind of... off topic, some of those off topic musing of yours are wonderful, they brighten up my day no end, and liven up an otherwise dull existence in front of this damn terminal.. hmm, I should get out n go to class more often... mm, I'm not sure where this post is going, so um, I'm finishing now, Steven ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:37:15 EDT From: RocketBoyD@aol.com Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #267 Response to Question For the Guys: Well, my friend, I assume that many a male Liz fan are homosexual. I mean it does take a somewhat female mentality to interpret the emotions behind Liz's lyrics. I know that's one of the many reasons I grew so attrached to her music, becuase it gave me hope to know that someone else was going through the same turbulent relationships with men as I was. If I didn't have Exile In Guyville I don't know where I would be........ your fellow Liz fan, Phil (aka RocketBoy) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:55:16 EDT From: Danaldj@aol.com Subject: liz's yrbk, I am back! Hey guys! It's been a long time! I have quickly browsed some past digests, there are soo many to read i just can't do them all, i am still catching up on other stuff- Hawaii was Awesome!!!!! Guesss what??? Do you know how lucky i was in Honolulu?? You'll never guess!!! They were filming "Baywatch" at our hotel and i got to catch a glimpse of that over aged, overtanned, hairy David Hasselhoff!!! Now I know you are ALL jealous, I mean not only is he an old hunk, but he is also actually a revered musician ....in GERMANY!!!!!!!! Liz Phair, look out! Just kidding! Anyway, honolulu is overcrowded but plentiful in sushi. Maui is where i want to live and die. Anyway, the point of this post is to say that i just found this website that allows you to check out high school yrbks(i think) freom all over the U.S. So , does anyone know the name, and town of Liz's high school and the year she graduated in? If this works , i 'll let you know, the site is kinda slow and i don't want to waste your time if it doesn't work. Just e-mail me w/the info and i will check it out and let you know, but I have a really tough schedule so i may not check this for at least a few more days. Roberta- I have not forgotten about you- i will send the tape - I am still unpacking from some other small side trips, school and work are also crazy- excuses, i know but i will get that to you. Tad- I promise to send you a long e-mail soon detailed with maui stories- thanks again- the whaler and kaanapali were Awesome!!!!! alright that's it. dp back in nj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:57:06 EDT From: Danaldj@aol.com Subject: one more thing....CMJ!!!!! Anyone from the list going to CMJ next week?? If so, e-mail me, maybe we can meet up, bettie serveert, madder rose, the donnas, quasi, dressy bessy, sissybar and .... yanni difranco !!!!!!! can't wait! dp in nj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 00:28:14 EDT From: Talula9695@aol.com Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #262 Hey Cynthia, I too believe that Tori Amos is a goddess. ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V2 #268 ************************************