From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #260 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Wednesday, September 1 1999 Volume 02 : Number 260 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Fate Is A Sadist ["M.L. Magdalene" ] Re: support-system-digest V2 #259 [jimmy ] playing with the bantee next door.... ["May Queen" ] "pop diva" indeed, a little morbidity... [Valerie Barry ] Thunder Road [Mike Marlatt ] Liz a pop diva? Yeah, and Jewel rocks...... [Talula9695@aol.com] Liz Guitar at Vegas? [Katie Lynne ] whatever happened to... [Valerie Barry ] going nowhere at all (it's frightening) [Jason Tedford Subject: Fate Is A Sadist >Nathan, I hope you were on some serious chemicals when you posted in >the >previous digest. :) I think Nathan is in a constant state of second hand on chemicals because of his sisters drug parties or something.. lMnop((who is beginning to run around pretending she's Tabatha--i even brought a troll doll to life!)) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 01:44:30 -0500 From: jimmy Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #259 >>From: Athena.M.Waligore@Dartmouth.EDU (Athena M. Waligore) >> >>I was wondering if anyone else was paying attention to what >>else Brad Wood has produced and has come up with good stuff?? > >Rufus Wainwright!, Aimee Mann oops i was thinking jon brion...sorry! xjimmy xjimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:32:29 GMT From: "May Queen" Subject: playing with the bantee next door.... i made a liz tape for me today of WS EIG then Juvy. it's for my bus thing arrrgghhh. time for some insight. my dog is snorting and looking like she is demon possesed and curling. hop she doesn't dgo to the (DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNN) hill of coroding doggy carcasses. ruff ruff i found my ratfink 2 day but it got stuck in emily's ztpper and now you can see the string for its vacuumed insides. >Nathan, I hope you were on some serious chemicals when you posted in >the>previous digest. :) ever tasted cadbury creme eggs? mmm and i found some of those valentine hearts in my grandma's freezer. yum. >Passionately yours (but not *that* kind of Passion), HEY THAT IS A DELIBERATE BLOW At MY CULTNessSSSSSSSS >From: "M.L. Magdalene" >Subject: Don't You Know What People Well say.... ummmmmm.......Backstreet boyz are here to stay? > >or those cadbury creme eggs with the fruit and egg yolk cake that's > >moist>or sumthing. >Yuck Nathan! Why'd you have to go and bring those things in on the whole >deal?! MMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm so runny and sachriney! still born! (enter herbal essences sound effects) I HAVE TO RIDE THE BBUUUUUUUUSSSSSS HOME TOMORROW. AARRRGGGHhhhh > >the twins decendents burned her during the salem witch trials (though > > >there we're only hangings weren't there?). >I think there were burnings and so what if there weren't--it sounds more >fun. The last episode or so the doctor mentioned that she had burn scars on her feet (cue the flashback). it was cute. they talked like in the 1690's but there was modern country music being played in the BG. the show is soooo historically correct! Today Kay slapped Simoen b/c Simoen told Grace where charity is. Sam figured out that charity was her neice. Kay tried everything to keep charity STANDISH THAT'S HER LAST NAME, away from miguel cuz she wanted him all to herself. > >(Timmy) little annoying midget doll that tabitha brought to life. >talks >inthe 3rd person and is being persued by tabitha's cat Fluffy. >WHAT?! Dude! Are you making this up? NO! fluffy sounds like a lion and timmy says "Tabby! Timmy is scared of fluffy. save Timmy." If i was tabitha, i would throw timmy in the wood chipper. ratfink agrees! > >oh and if she brags about grabbing Chino's (from Deftones) crotch a > > >millions times at the a million different concerts. hmmm. >Ummmm.....i'll bash her? do u like chino. well maybe, bashing just for the sake of the fascist male sport of dominance? just 4 the sake of it! well when i was going to a cheap cardigans concert in January, my friend eriklowercase-e-r-i-withabackwards-k- asked her why Bootio was written on the car and she got all offended. Her friends call her Bootio and i hear she is a slut too. can't confirm until...... > >uh my head hurts, the new wine the new wine >I guess just because the drug parties are in your sisters room doesn't mean >you weren't hittin the crack pipe... I did say that i was high on the new wine didn't i? how did you like my button song? > >then me and my friend both heard breathing by our ears, > >maybe your sister moved the drug parties? #1 yes. but proability #2 is that KC Hating you declared bitch is listening to our cult plots. we are soooo devious aren't we? CACKLE CACKLE CACKLE HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Tabitha's gonna get you all! > >hearing the sound of animals being attacked and slaughtered >Dude..you live in Cali....how the hell do animals sound like when >they're>being slaughtered?! it kinda sounds like when a dog is being disemboweled on a hill that i sit on regularly. the noise running around my tent however crashing into the sides and being terrifing sounded EXACTLY like the noise (even my friend confermed this) THE NOISE WAS EXACTLY LIKE THE END OF mesmerizing. LISTEN! just picture that thing crashing into your tent in the middle of nowhere at 4 in the morning. >I live in Kansas..surrounded by amish people according >to you..i don't even know that... and it's true! They wanna churn your butter and plow your fields. huh huh huh. > >then i woke up to find that we were right by my uncle's trailer >Um..dude..i thought you were already awake? no i fell asleep at like 2 and then the wierd stuffs started happening. > >i found a dog lying in curdled blood with it leg torn off, it's >throat > >torn out, disemboweled, and its collar strewn about 10 feet >away. >Ewwww...yuck and stuff about it you crack head! No more Blair Witch >Project>for yoU! AAAAWWWWWWwwwwww. Can I be Heather? i'm not kidding! and ou can be josh and we need a mike......Jaime? Nicole? anyone wanna b obnoxoius to me the 1 & only heather? (that dog.) THIS was completely TRUE. kinda wierd huh. the grass was all shaped in funny patterns around it. I'm gonna go haunted orchard camping this friday. hmmmmm. if i don't post then my cult is transferres to M. >oh no Nathan..this whole post was in regards to you! People are going to >talk now..... (are they still plotting my demise? >Join The Cult.... ME AND THE M ARE STILL TAKING SIGN UPS! >lMnop((who wants to be Tabitha)) cute baby love child >Look at the beautiful Drew Barrymore, the repulsive Jenny McCarthy and the >former miss america for a day, whatever her name was-- "sometime the snow >comes down in june, sometimes the sun goes round the moon"... _ sorry i know this but i think you mean Vanessa Williams and hey, you go and save the best for last. > > nina gordon could die but does anyone know when her album is > >coming out so i can buy and enjoy it. >I think Outpost delayed its release until January, as for (Weezy) >she's>supposed to be releasing the next Veruca Salt album this autumn. IF YOU ARE SAYING WEEZY IN REGARDS TO LOUISE MY SUGAR SUGAR KANDY POP YOU ARE GOING TO GET A HEAVY MAN BASHING MR. MAN. oh and it's MR DIFRANCO TO UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUYyyyyooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. anything i can do loiuse basher? redeem yerself. THRNCJASNSK! take that! nathan (spelled backward is new wine) PS: i think i've watched 2 much christian TV in between infomercials. anyone see that new RONCO. or i like paint stick. it sounds so dumb though, kinda like MY INTERACTIVE POOH! who came up with that one? ************************************************************ Don't you know I'm very happy You know me well I'm even happier, I like it i i i i i i like it.... With all of the time in the world to spend it Wild and unwise I wanna be mesmerizing too Mesmerizing too Mesmerizing to you _____________________________Liz Phair ************************************************************ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:18:19 EDT From: Juvenilia@aol.com Subject: Hanson-ish Hello Liz-listers.... Just to add to Nicole's post about the Hanson/Liz Phair comment.... When watching the "Never Said", that one part where Liz is sinking in the lake with her guitar over her head, she reminds me of one of them Hanson kids. Am I the only one who thinks this? When I first came to this realization, it was slightly disturbing, but I have to admit Liz can look quite Hanson-ish.... but then it seems Liz resembles several famous people (as we have discussed in past.) Anyhow... just an observation. I'm shutting up now. Sometimes, Robbie THE SLICK DIVIDE (about to be updated - I swear) http://valmccown.com/lizphair.html NP: Beth Hart - Screamin' For My Supper ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:56:06 +0800 (SGT) From: Ju Nguan Tan Subject: DAT/CDR trades? Hi, I'm looking for DAT/CDR recordings of Liz's most recent shows, especially the Lounge Ax gig. If you would like to trade, please email me! Best, Ju ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:34:33 -0400 From: Valerie Barry Subject: "pop diva" indeed, a little morbidity... kisko clearheadedly commented: >Don't give it a second thought. Any writer calling Liz a "pop diva" is >clearly NOT getting the point. you're absolutely right. and, 10 to 1, when her new album comes out, she'll oncea again garner the praise stomp & stammer has given her in the past. excellent example of using the "grain of salt" method of dealing... i had a morbid, kinda sad thought i must share...a couple weeks ago, when newbies joined the list, there was much talk of the bonding that occurs on this list. then, the other day, someone posted (sorry, i forgot your name) and signed his name, letting us know he was "formerly treeshadow," who used to post quite frequently. i realized that any one of us could end up in a coma or worse, never post again, and nobody would ever know what happened. maybe an occasional, "gosh, i miss so-and-so's witty posts," but that would be it. so, because we (or at least, I) care, i think it's a good idea to let us know if you've changed your email name, or if you are leaving the list. becasue, like your mother, we worry. peanut butter and honey on eggo waffles with chocolate milk isa wonderful breakfast, by the way! off to the races... valerie *********************************************************** "...well look at me i'm frightening my friends..." - -Liz Phair ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:37:24 EDT From: TADude9999@aol.com Subject: Repeat offer I have three copies of "Glory" with two bonus tracks("Firewalker"and "Don't Apoligize" included at the end left. If anyone is interested please contact me privately. These are on High quality tape. First three people to contact me are in. TAD ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:49:35 -0500 From: brian d irby Subject: Little Rock, Nicole's post, and other mindless ramblings. Someone, don't recall the name (ack!!), was commenting on Little Rock's gang problem. I live in Little Rock, and we did have the highest murder rate per capita in the US a couple of years ago. Not much to brag about, but when you don't have much to brag about, you have to find something. Anyway, HBO made a documentary a few years ago on the Little Rock gangs, called Bangin' in Little rock. It was really an eye opener. Anyway, Nicole, you should post more stuff!! I thoroughly enjoyed your post!! Brian ps. we do have shoes down here... and some of us don't spit tobacco on our gunracks.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:12:20 EDT From: DaisyFoo14@aol.com Subject: liz on the air I was gettin mighty pissy after my brother told me he'd heard the Liz CK radio ad on a top 40 station but couldn't remember what she said. He doesn't even like Liz so I was fuming that he got to hear it. So, just for all of you (ok.....there was definitely some selfish-ity involved) I put myself through a few hours of physical torture and listened to Z-100 (a mighty crappy station taht everyone likes around here but makes me gag and claw at myself) in the hopes of hearing this ad. Hell, I even called the station at 1:30 am in hopes of reaching a dj who might know the ad sched. (No one picked up.) So anyway, after a bunch of hours spread out over two days, finally this morning after I got out of a shower, I started to record the station just b/c I had a Liz vibe and desperately wanted a reward for all that backstreet shit and whoever else they play (all that "ooooooh girl, i wish we could get together, oh baby, i want some ass, you're so beautiful, you are fire, oh, desire, it's too bad that backstreet's back ALLLLLRIGGGGGHHHHHTTTTTT" crap)........I started recording during some weird ads and finally, to my ecstatic delight, some lady said, "And now a few words from Liz Phair for CK" or something. I nearly had a heart attack. I'm not sure if it was because I'd finally gotten this damn thing on tape or b/c it meant that after recording it I'd never have to listen to that shitty station again. So..........altho I'm gonna be supra busy once school starts, I'm willing to dub copies for ppl......it's really nothing too incredible and is only like 2 minutes at most, but based on how desperate I was to hear it, I'm sure some of you guys would also like a copy. I can send it exclusively on tape, but since there'll be so much extra room, I can peg it onto a bootleg or some radio interviews or whatever else I have and work out trades, either for boots or blanks and postage, whichever works w/ what you have and how that compares to my stash. You (yes, YOU!) can check out my stuff at (http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/shatter)....I also have the following sleater-kinney: The Capitol Theater, Oly 12/31/97; The Metro, Chicago 6/6/99; The Middle East, Cambridge 6/1/99; Irving Plaza, NYC, 5/29+30/99 (2 sep tapes) with Sarah Dougher filler for 5/29; La Luna, Portland 2/27/99 w/ Quasi filler 10/6/98 My site hasn't been updated in quite some time, and my computer breaks down when I try to fix stuff, so, yeah. I'm looking for more Liz (I reaaaaaaaaaaallllllyyyyyy want hello Stranger if anyone has it), as well as more Sleater-kinney, tuscadero, kristin hersh, bikini kill, elliott smith, cadallaca, bratmobile....etc. My life is complete now that I have this. Actually, I'd still like to [CENSORED FOR INAPPROPRIATE CONTENT], but, I'm quite overjoyed. Since I have no idea how many responses I'm gonna get for this, I can't really determine how long it'll take me to do all of these tapes. I will try my best, however, to get copies to whoever wants. But, if you're really impatient, I'll just sell a copy on ebay and whoever wins can get it immediately! : ) I want to end this somewhat intelligently, but I know myself well enough that it's just not gonna happen. So...... The food here is good. You will come again soon. Lucky numbers: 2, 5, 9, 17, 28, 35, 48, 67, 73. Allison Did anybody ever have a cricket doll? I loved mine way back when, but I recently found some photos of me at about age 5 w/ her, and she really scared the shit out of me. I mean, her eyes looked back and forth, and her mouth moved, and when the tape started to break down she sounded really freaky. "Aloha! Let's go to Hawaii! We'll be best friends!" - cricket ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:32:16 -0400 From: Mike Marlatt Subject: Support System name Oh and I had a thought the other day dating back to the "SS" list name discussion. I can't remember what set it off but someone reffered to Liz as "ECP" (Elizabeth Clark Phair). Does ECP not sound a little catchy? Short for ECP Digest? Just a thought. MIKE MARLATT Investment Advisor NESBITT BURNS INC. Work Tel: 604-443-1622 Fax: 604-443-1490 Toll Free: 1-888-346-3133 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:28:46 -0400 From: Mike Marlatt Subject: Thunder Road ***** "i loved that you mentioned springsteen's "Thunder Road," as it brings me to tears every time i hear it...what a beautiful song, those of you who don't know it would do well to check it out.anyway, keep up the interesting posts." ***** I'm seconding this motion. Thunder Road has got to be one of the most romantic songs ever. I was only 19 when it caught my attention while I was dating this great girl (who turned out to be the only girlfriend who dumped me...an event that still hangs with me to this day). It was a pretty unique song for a couple of 19 year olds to have in 1993 (everyone else was dedicating "And I will walk 500 miles"!!!!, stupid Canadians) The lyrics are so deep, yet so blue collar. They should be shared. The screen door slams, Mary's dress sways Like a vision she dances across the porch as the radio plays It's Roy Orbison singing for the lonely Hey that's me and I want you only Don't turn me home again, I just can't face myself alone again Don't run back inside ,darling you know just what I'm here for So you're scared and you're thinking that maybe we ain't that young anymore Show a little faith there's magic in the night You ain't a beauty but hey you're alright Oh and that's alright with me You can hide 'neath your covers and study your pain Make crosses from your lovers throw roses in the rain Waste your summer praying in vain for a saviour to rise from these streets Well now I'm no hero that's understood All the redemption I can offer girl is beneath this dirty hood With a chance to make it good somehow, hey what else can we do now ? Except roll down the window and let the wind blow back your hair Well the night's busting open these two lanes will take us anywhere We got one last chance to make it real, to trade in these wings on some wheels Climb in back heaven's waiting on down the tracks Oh-oh come take my hand ,we're riding out tonight to case the promised land Oh-oh Thunder Road oh Thunder Road Lying out there like a killer in the sun Hey I know it's late we can make it if we run Oh Thunder Road sit tight take hold, Thunder Road Well I got this guitar and I learned how to make it talk And my car's out back if you're ready to take that long walk From your front porch to my front seat, the door's open but the ride it ain't free And I know you're lonely for words that I ain't spoken But tonight we'll be free all the promises'll be broken There were ghosts in the eyes of all the boys you sent away They haunt this dusty beach road in the skeleton frames of burned out Chevrolets They scream your name at night in the street Your graduation gown lies in rags at their feet And in the lonely cool before dawn, you hear their engines roaring on But when you get to the porch they're gone on the wind, so Mary climb in It's town full of losers, and I'm pulling out of here to win Even Dave Matthews doesn't hold a candle to the Boss's romance lyrics (although I never looked to Dave for lessons in love, it's the songs about life that hit the buttons. It's not my fault they only play his love songs on the radio)! Oh, and I felt pretty smug after getting about 3 lines into one of those alias Stevemails and thinking "no way anyone else wrote this but that freak", only to find out I was right. Gimme an' "L", Gimme an' "O", Gimme an' "S".......... MIKE MARLATT Investment Advisor NESBITT BURNS INC. Work Tel: 604-443-1622 Fax: 604-443-1490 Toll Free: 1-888-346-3133 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:11:12 EDT From: Talula9695@aol.com Subject: Liz a pop diva? Yeah, and Jewel rocks...... I have to agree with SK on this one.....my best friend Jenny and I were talking about it the other day; the only person we can think of that still makes pure, old fashioned, shake your butt rock n roll music is Liz Phair. That is, of course, with the exception of bands like Aerosmith and shit that have been making rock for 30 years, but that doesn't count because technically they're not new. Liz is the only true 90's rock chick!! I mean, I love Tori, Bjork, and PJ Harvey to death, but you can't really catagorize their music as rock, but Liz is pure rock. She just rocks!!!!! If Liz were a "pop diva," she'd be all over MTV with Drewel and Mariah Carey. Whoever said that needs to be shot (but I'm not bitter about it or anything). Jackie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:28:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Katie Lynne Subject: Liz Guitar at Vegas? I know this has been mentioned a million times before, but Liz's guitar is at the Vegas Hard Rock Cafe' right? A friend just got back from her vacation and sent me her picture of Liz's guitar. I hope to add this to my site and would like the info to be correct. Katie ();) === ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* "I believe you believe in the myth of yourself." -Luscious Jackson ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:42:29 -0400 From: Valerie Barry Subject: whatever happened to... a few weeks back, someone posted that they actually rode in a vehicle with liz & family. the post was full of mysterious, teasing references to liz answering many burning quesitons, etc. was this ever elaborated on, or did i lose it while skipping through recent bickering? if you are out there, *please* enlighten us with details from that very cool experience! np: the end of the REM concert tonight that i didn't get tickets to. oh well, they played it on the radio, and now i can go to bed while thousands of others are stuck in traffic (ummm, yeah, that made me feel better). g'night! valerie *********************************************************** "...well look at me i'm frightening my friends..." - -Liz Phair ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:41:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Tedford Subject: going nowhere at all (it's frightening) Liz in playboy?! Where did this wild rumor come from? I would be surprised if this actually came to be. I remember her talking about considering it four years ago or so in an interview somewhere, but I figure now that she's married with Nick and everything, it's something that's been pushed aside. But hey, who knows? Liz is her own woman. So anyway I was cruising around tonight listening to a little 'Greased Lightning,' and it just gives me this whole mental picture of some guy making a big ass of himself with Liz kind of cringing to the side. I couldn't help but think of Jaime and Nicole's epic battle with our lost friend Steve last week. If you guys listen to the song I think you'll know where I'm coming from. It still amazes me that that little tune didn't make the album. I mean it's catchy, fun and with its easily recognizable verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus structure would have been a great single. (Sorry, for those of you that don't know what the hell I'm talking about, 'Greased Lightning' is one of the b-sides on the Japanese single for 'Polyester Bride' and is also on the 45-single for the aforementioned song...and of course is included on Ken's CDs, too.) Oh yeah, if any of you are still looking to get your hands on a Liz CK postcard and you live in a major city or college town check out www.maxracks.com for a list of locations where they have them for free. Aloha for now my lovelies as I must retire for the evening... jason NP: Meshell Ndegeocello - 'Bitter' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V2 #260 ************************************