From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #258 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Monday, August 30 1999 Volume 02 : Number 258 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: support-system-digest V2 #257 [Talula9695@aol.com] sherlock - jase ! ["Jaime" ] brad wood [Athena.M.Waligore@Dartmouth.EDU (Athena M. Waligore)] Bounced message [Jason Long ] Bounced message [Jason Long ] Bounced message [Jason Long ] Re: Tori Amos [AMCFLND1@aol.com] blood keeper [Kaufmann@IPFW.EDU (Kaufmann,Mike)] country music on the liz list!! [brian d irby ] a liz slam! [Valerie Barry ] storm warning ["Cynthia Nagle" ] Bounced message [Jason Long ] la di da ["May Queen" ] having a laugh, then definitely a nap. [Shelly ] Re: support-system-digest V2 #257 [Biggerd000@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:41:13 EDT From: Talula9695@aol.com Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #257 The new Tori album isn't b sides, it's a double CD set of new material and live stuff from the last tour. She originally went into the studio for a b sides album, but ended up recording a bunch of new stuff instead. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:50:21 -0400 From: "Jaime" Subject: sherlock - jase ! >If you think you're it, you better check with me, >Jase Jase-- Wow. You're an excellent detective. Now that I think of it, there were an awful lot of people speaking out on Alanis's behalf. An awful lot of new names. What a lame way to spend your time... trying to terrorize a liz phair group. Someone send that guy a yo-yo. ~jaime* - -- -- -- -- - " I can grow, despite all you know, you might not recognize me tomorrow..." ~Liz Phair, 'firewalker' - -- -- -- -- - ------------------------------ Date: 29 Aug 1999 01:46:33 EDT From: Athena.M.Waligore@Dartmouth.EDU (Athena M. Waligore) Subject: brad wood Hey guys.. I was wondering if anyone else was paying attention to what else Brad Wood has produced and has come up with good stuff?? I dig the That Dog, Ben Lee and Veruca Salt albums.. what else? I once tracked down a list but there were so many unfamiliar bands and have since lost the list anyway.. Athena ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 03:54:04 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: "May Queen" Subject: theresa lopez\fitzgerald is in for it this time! TO: the great and powerful M (bowing, worshipping, etc.) who still has supreme reign (in my head) of bitch of the list (sorry jaime/nicole =) ) and to anyone who wishes to anonymously (or may-b i'll have sign ups?) join the creatively named PAssions CULT! that's the longest run on sentence in this digest bet, if not DIE fascist male (not to be sexist or degrading towards the lesser man but hey.....men are scum but i guess i'm a chosen one or something i'm gonna edit my quasi-feminist rambling now). Well M, so you want in on the passions thing huh. you want to be part of my supreme utopian idea. the capitilist prison that is trying to suppress us with peeps (see last digest (or 2) if from out of town). or those cadbury creme eggs with the fruit and egg yolk cake that's moist or sumthing. nina gordon could die but does anyone know when her album is coming out so i can buy and enjoy it. for all you uneducated non veruca slut (oops uncreative name) fans. nina is the ugly blond one that sings pretty and writes popsy songs. i like my loiuse though (she the adorable one that does cute little gestures and that slept with ninas ex boyfriend that she cheated on with the drummer and then broke up the band when she found out the louise was being funny and went to NY and her album is supposed to come out tuesday but i think it's not and then louise went through some court battle to keep the veruca salt name and now she is recording with nia's ex: isn't that a soap story or uh huh yeah i guess it's all right whatever...turn your ugly face..are you so suprised to see me?) yep louise is fine (and not in that sexual superficial narcissistic comment sort of way!!!) anyway to my original topic plan.......eh hem. you'll go down in herstory. if his is in it it's SSSEEEEXXXIIIISSSTTT! this is an update on passions (oh and yes it IS taped while i am in school or otherwise what point is there to live?) ______________________________________________________________________ (THERESA LOPEZ/FITZGERALD) well theresa was in love with ethan crane (the cranes are the richest family in harmony) and spilled consecutive things on him over a period of time: blue paint, soda, BBQ (ahhh cibo matto) sauce, and fish guts, oh and then rubbed heat ointment on his back. so she was almost captured by ethan a bunch of times too. well her mom told her accidentely about a job at the crane mansion as Ivy Crane's personal secratery. (the maid got chased away with ivy's gun of blanks after she found the maid in bed with her husband) she put on a "clever" disguise of a short wig, lisa loeb glasses (yes they are a certain kind) and profesional clothes so ethan does not recognize her. ethan hired a private investigator that is after her and her friend whitney. (Grace Bennett) Lost memory in a fire and cannot remember the 1st 20 years of her life. Keeps seeing an apprition (in the first week anyway) of a little angel girl that warns her of evil. finally linked up to twin sister faith on a missing persons chat room last week. (Faith something) Knows that her family has been persecuted for years by "evil" (tabitha) forces. Her daughter charity is in love with miguel lopez-fitzgerald. got scared a couple days ago when tabitha came out of her computer screen and blew fire. scary. constantly wanting to move to get away from the evil. Lives in castleton bout' an hours bus ride from harmony. (Charity something) Just saw Grace and is looking for her. Thinks that if she finds her mothers twin that it will change her mother mind to move to harmony so she could have wild PASSIONite Sex with miguel. Tabitha almost drowned her by pulling her through the sink. (Tabitha) the twins decendents burned her during the salem witch trials (though there we're only hangings weren't there?). she tells timmy that if the 2 meet that they will be destroyed by their powers. this neighborhood witch trys to kill charity a bunch of times. (Timmy) little annoying midget doll that tabitha brought to life. talks in the 3rd person and is being persued by tabitha's cat Fluffy. (Sheridan Crane) Diana's best friend who went to france and gotin a car crash in the same tunnel and went to the same hospital as Princess Diana. she then saw her and diana said to go back to her body (i wrote to passion saying to stop writing on diana's name and they stopped immidiately it was kind of funny how everyone in france said "NO NOT LIKE DIANA"). they overemphasize the french accent too. well she also looks like diana, funny. well she found Jean Luc was using her for her name and left and when trying to persue her, Jean and MiMi (his fiance) got blown up cuz the drug smugglers he worked with put a bomb under his car. well diana went back to harmony and crashed into Luis Lopez/Fitzgerald's cop car and was sent to jail. after more meetings she thought he was nice but her brother (mr. sumthing crane) put a sexual harassment suit on luis after he accidentely kissed her when blindfolded and then did a PASSIONate merengue dance with her. he then testified against her in court and the judge assigned her a fine and 100 hours community service at the Harmony youth center (where luis is the runner of things). the two are now bickering why sam bennetts brother is telling luis that he is in love with her. (Sam Bennett) the dumb police chief that now figured out that Charity is Grace's neice. Had an early relationship with Ivy Crane. Ethan is probably his son and won't inherite the Crane money. (Kay Bennett) Miguel's best friend that is doing everything it takes to get Charity away from Miguel. (Jessica Bennett)-(bis girl) (or manda rin if u prefer) Plots against Kay and is trying to keep Charity with Miguel. cute too (in a non-sexist way). (Gwen Hotchkiss) Susan Lucci's (La Luc) hideous daughter (La Hooch) that is ethan's girlfriend. mad at him cuz on Wed. or Thursday, he wispered Theresa's name when she blew in his ear. ( 1) Simone/ 2) Whitney ) (sisters) 1) Kay's best friend that figured out that Charity is Kay's cousin but Kay convenced her not to show charity a picture of her mom to prove it. 2) Her dad wants her to make the Olimpic tennis team. Theresa's best friend that is paranoid about lying to the private investigator, Frank. They sorta are developing a crush on one another. ______________________________________________________________________ so anyone who wants to sign up for my Passions Cult (with Liz ` influences) can e-mail me. A spin off off Jesus Cristo (that's Je-Sus ....the spanish way) which sounds so Rico Suave. Complain about this post at this address too and if you don't join....THAT'S NOT PHAIR! So the almighty M (sounds like a bad Sesame Street skit) is now caught up and has no excuse not to watch Passions (even if you DO have the Vietnam war coming through your living room). Oh and tell my sister to call me if she shows up at one of your drug parties. You'll know it's her b/c her name is Melissa, a not too common name in the US and beyond. oh and if she brags about grabbing Chino's (from Deftones) crotch a millions times at the a million different concerts. hmmm. and so the longest post ends (and the world takes a united sigh of relief). N =) ************************************************************ Don't you know I'm very happy You know me well I'm even happier, I like it i i i i i i like it.... With all of the time in the world to spend it Wild and unwise I wanna be mesmerizing too Mesmerizing too Mesmerizing to you (yes you) _____________________________Liz Phair ************************************************************ that reminds me.......eh hem a very merry unbirthday to you (to me) a very merry unbirthday to me (to you) so fuck and run and have some fun oh help me mary pleaseeeeeeeee a very merry unbirthday cuz i lost my home to fleas so temper my hatred with peas cuz i'm high on the new wine oh yeah i feel fine and look at me i'm frightening my friends SHANE I SAID YOU'VE GOT TO WATCH YOUR ASS!!!!! you've gotta have fear in your heart (X's 500 infinity) (enter static noise that makes me feel happy) gunshy WIFE i want 6152 4 a phone # so i am jealouser than a kitten in a blender. a pig has a button for a nose (oink oink) a ratfink has a button for an ear (insert slautering animal screaming from the 4-H farm next door) a bat has a button for a wing (frightening bat squeaky noise) a Steve has a button for a brain (FUCK ANIMALS blahditty blah) a liz has a button for a husband (felt it slip through the slick divide oh it's not that easy) b4 i pass out cold i will say good bye. oh but have you ever seen chinchillas roll around in dirt? that's how they take baths. they leap and roll in fireplace ashes. my dog is a slut that always gets knocked up. uh my head hurts, the new wine the new wine N i bet................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 03:55:26 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: elizabethclark@chickmail.com Subject: liz at hall of fame Hey Mayor of Cool City- I posted about the 3 places I found her at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame about a week ago. Did you find her anywhere else? - --- ***************************************************** "don't have time for all your problems... ....why don't you solve them?" ***************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 03:54:51 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: Lindley Earl Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #253 First time I knew anything about Liz Phair, I was at work reading my Rolling Stone and started reading reviews, as I read the EIG review it was talking about a woman who is testing boundaries with sexual lyrics or something like that and started quoting words from, "Flower" of course...me being the pervert I was back then got turned on by the "fuck you til' your dick is blue...etc" so, I went to lunch to the mall and bought it right then, I took the rest of the day off and listened to it all day and to this day it's still my favorite album...I saw Liz at Bohagers' in Baltimore in May 99, only about 150 people were there and I was right there on the front row with my wife, who knows that if Liz told me to go back stage with her I would (j/k) anyways, I've always been an influential person to my friends and family and most of them have become Liz Phair fans because of me, whether it be me putting a knife to their throat or tying them up and duct-taping the earphones to their head :o) Back in high school I even got all kinds of my redneck friends in Mississippi to listen to the Cure and the Smiths, now that's an accomplishment! Alrighty, that was my intro to Liz! Lindley ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:11:31 EDT From: AMCFLND1@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori Amos In a message dated 8/29/99 1:20:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org writes: > So, did anyone happen to catch her for that concert? I really wanted to, > but #1: My computer can't handle that kinda special thing and #2: I was in a > > class. Her first single, "Bliss," has been released, supposedly. There was > > a video for it on "120 Minutes" and that's been it. Plus you can give CDNOW > > 1.99 to download it. Really, people can find it somewhere else and download > > it for free. The Bliss single is for sale. I bought it. It also has a version of Hey Jupiter live on it. The web broadcast concert lasted about an hour. It was half performance half interview. Sara ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:25:36 -0500 From: Kaufmann@IPFW.EDU (Kaufmann,Mike) Subject: blood keeper I like the new track on ken's session disks, Blood Keeper, but found it a bit puzzling to figure--especially with its heavy nirvanaish/ soundgardenish type of sound. I'm not sure if someone has mentioned this interpretation, but the chorus of "I'm a wreck, I'm obsessed, I'm insane. Isn't that what you want me to say./ Don't you neeed to feel/ My blood on the tracks today" sounds like a lament on the pressures to come up with another Exile from her fans and record execs. We want her to pour out her suffering in her songs (the blood on the [record--ok cd] tracks) and eagerly lap it up like vampires. Only she doesn't feel like that person anymore. The nirvanaish sound I think comes from her sense of kinship to some of the pressures that Kurt Cobain cracked under. Feeling consumed by the work. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:35:30 -0500 From: brian d irby Subject: country music on the liz list!! Jason was recently talking about the sad state of country music these days. I think you need to distinguish between *real* country music and what the people in Nashville call country. That crap out of Nashville is mass produced, written by the same people who write Celine Dion songs, and totally without any soul. I just got through watching Steve Earle on Sessions, and he said the reason why country radio sucks is because they are afraid to play songs about killing. But, I found that listening to Uncle Tupelo's Anodyne record much more rewarding than years of listening to commercial country radio. Anyway.... Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:57:17 -0400 From: Valerie Barry Subject: a liz slam! i picked up the most recent issue of "stomp and stammer," a monthly music rag published here in atlanta that is actually quite good and which many of you might like. anyway, in their "news leak" segment, which carries short music news blurbs accompanied by biting sarcastic commentary, i found this item: "Matador Records has ended its relationship with Capitol Records and is once again an all-out indie label. All artists and catalog remain with Matador, with the exception of pop diva Liz Phair, who goes directly to Capitol, and pretty much sucks now anyway." i realize the writer is entitled to his or her opinion (with the hope that such diplomacy is duly noted), but anyone who cares to comment (or check out the publcation, although the web site does not contain full articles) should go to www.stompandstammer.com. valerie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 99 18:34:47 PDT From: "Cynthia Nagle" Subject: storm warning Jaime wrote: <> Couldn't have said it better myself. I dare ya to row out in a lifeboat to where I am. "You should see it get rolling... Over my heart and emotions inside me." (I prefer "open my heart and emotions rip out of me.") The one and only (except for that Crawford wench), Hurricane Cindy NP: Opus 40, Mercury Rev, via Spank Radio (kicks ass!) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:38:41 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: Partha Subject: My first time The first time I heard Liz. Wow, this is going to be embarrasing... Okay, my girlfriend was super into Liz after Guyville came out. She kept on talking about the album and about Liz to me, but (here is the embarrasing part) I had absolutely no interest. None at all. I thought, it's another one of her crazy bands/singers, I don't want any part of it. (I am a nice guy and whenever I saw her in the newspaper (like the NY Times Magazine, I remember) I would cut it out and give it to her). One time we were driving from Lawrence to Ft. Collins and Liz appeared in out lives twice. (This is after Whip Smart). First, since I was now trapped, she insists on playing Exile in on the car stereo. I turn it out and become grupy. Secondly, Liz is actually playing in Denver one of the nights we were in Ft. Collins. She really wanted to go, but, of course, I said no. She then (being very persistant) makes a tape with Exile on one side and Whip Smart on the other. I, then, after being a super pain, start listening to the tape. I just love it. It spoke to me. It was just incredible. It was a revelation. I spent probably 2 years with it being the only tape in my walkman and i started my obession with liz (which continues to this day). All I did was talk about Liz. About how she was distupting the adolesent-male discourse of rock and roll (which is what rock is -- a discourse of male sexuality). I analyzed her songs. I just talked and talked. My girlfriend (mind you, we're still going out, years later) gets sick of it. She likes Liz and all, actually, she loves Liz, but she doesn't like my obsession. We eventually break up (Feb 1996). I still listen all the time. Listen, listen, listen. Read as much as I can about her. We get back together (Aug 1997) and I'm still obsessed. Obsessed, obsessed, obsessed. She doesn't get it. We break up again (Oct 1998), and I'm still obsessed. Obsessed might be the wrong word, but you all get the picture. Anyway, I owe it all to a persistent ex-girlfriend. pat mazumdar@eagle.cc.ukans.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:04:57 GMT From: "May Queen" Subject: la di da i wanna get married i wanna be a wife fat or short or tall or skinny or amputated leg! you're a la di da running around in your push up bra you're a la di da di da anyone like imogen heap? ________ do you know what my chopping blocks for? do you know what my hanging braids for? do you know what my chamber maids for? do you know what i, what i have in store for you? (children screaming and funny unpleasantness) i went camping in the back of my haunted orchard and funny things happened. first a wierd thing kept hopping and breaking the trees above our heads and walnut fell and shook the tent and it ran around the tops of the trees, but the trees can't break b/c they are thick and stuff. then me and my friend both heard breathing by our ears, heavy breathing and we each thought it was each other but when we found that it wasn't that was wierd. what topped the cake was waking up at about 3 in the morning and hearing the sound of animals being attacked and slaughtered sort of right by my ear then dirt clods flew and hit the tent and the thing kept running around REALLY FAST and then i kicked and woke my friend up and he was sleepy and about to complain about me waking him up when the horrifying thing started the scary noise again and crashed into his head. i couldn't stop laughing though after seeing his reaction. for all you infomercial watchers: he looked like the chinese lady after ron from RONCO hit his chicken roaster with a hammer (hope that helps). then i woke up to find that we were right by my uncle's trailer though we walked about 5 minutes into the empty expanse of trees. it dosn't help my feelings b/c i walked around to the back of the hill a little bit away from where i camped (bout a week b4) and i found a dog lying in curdled blood with it leg torn off, it's throat torn out, disemboweled, and its collar strewn about 10 feet away. so Phair witch. so of course i'm camping out there again this weekend. a bunch of weird stuff has happened at this house. ooooooooooo. really creepy things though. MQ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:58:02 -0700 From: Shelly Subject: having a laugh, then definitely a nap. KATIE~~Hey, that was you?? *grins* I was carded for BWP (I'll be 30 in December), but I was flattered...keep doing it, even when they look old enough. *laugh* VALERIE~~That's what I mean about "Thunder Road"...both it and "The River" do that to me nearly every time. Kindredness...sounds good. *giving the groovy little "thumbs up" sign* I just thought I'd pipe up now & then with a few words and hope that I didn't bore anyone too much...but it's become sorta fun now. Besides that fact that you posted with a hangover & I just returned from a "girls weekend" of camping with good girlfriends doing nothing but drinking beer & sleeping on the ground...now I usually don't feel "old", and am usually mistaken for 22 or 23, but today *holding my head* is a completely different story... ~gunshy~ Shelly NP...I'm guessing this is for Now Playing?? Sleater-Kinney "Dig Me Out" ~~**~~**~~**~~**~~**~~**~~**~~**~~**~~**~~**~~**~~** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:55:05 EDT From: Biggerd000@aol.com Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #257 hey is liz posing for playboy or what. what is with all the rumors ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V2 #258 ************************************