From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #219 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Wednesday, July 28 1999 Volume 02 : Number 219 Today's Subjects: ----------------- beth and stuff ["May Queen" ] beth and stuff ["May Queen" ] PJ Harvey and Liz videos [brian d irby ] Where Do You Get The Fuck Off Thinking..... ["M.L. Magdalene" ] details [MrE ] Liz is recording [Msmrizing2@aol.com] javanilia ["dana polachowski" ] jen trynin/radiohead ["Chipko Arnold" ] Re: support-system-digest V2 #218 [SnwbdBetty@aol.com] vh1 countdown [SnwbdBetty@aol.com] 100 greatest women of rock n roll [Priciliano Luna ] Message Board! [saylerja ] [none] ["jw" ] lilith in indianapolis, girlysounds [Lana ] soap star j--eeeyyck! sick! [raymond lew ] Paul Simon boots [Liz Gould ] freakin timezone troubles piss me off ["Jaime" ] A Liz Phan Club ["May Queen" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:20:07 GMT From: "May Queen" Subject: beth and stuff does anyone else think that WCSE is the most perfect pop album they have ever heard? i do. it is the bestest most popiest thing. for all you beth orton fans.... in stolen car it's kinda funny b/c it sounds like she says.... "I see your face driving a stolen carcass"! hahahahahaha ha listen and it will be revealed i dreamt that liz was mentioned and had a whole page in the newspaper everday and also that she was on the soap opera PASSIONS confronting Mrs. Crane. funny...? nathan ************************************************************ Don't you know I'm very happy You know me well I'm even happier, I like it i i i i i i like it.... With all of the time in the world to spend it Wild and unwise I wanna be mesmerizing too Mesmerizing too Mesmerizing to you _____________________________Liz Phair ************************************************************ _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:22:49 GMT From: "May Queen" Subject: beth and stuff does anyone else think that WCSE is the most perfect pop album they have ever heard? i do. it is the bestest most popiest thing. for all you beth orton fans.... in stolen car it's kinda funny b/c it sounds like she says.... "I see your face driving a stolen carcass"! hahahahahaha ha listen and it will be revealed i dreamt that lis was mentioned and had a whole page in the newspaper everday and also that she was on the soap opera PASSIONS confronting Mrs. Crane. funny...? nathan ************************************************************ Don't you know I'm very happy You know me well I'm even happier, I like it i i i i i i like it.... With all of the time in the world to spend it Wild and unwise I wanna be mesmerizing too Mesmerizing too Mesmerizing to you _____________________________Liz Phair ************************************************************ _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:43:28 -0500 From: brian d irby Subject: PJ Harvey and Liz videos Hey, whoever was asking... (sorry it is after midnight and I am half asleep)... PJ Harvey will be on sessions this weekend... I have only seen Polyester Bride and Supernova videos myself. I don't watch Mtv normally (I tend to suffer from indigestion after watching it too long), so anyone willing to make me a copy of some videos will be always endeared in my heart too... Brian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:44:02 PDT From: "M.L. Magdalene" Subject: Where Do You Get The Fuck Off Thinking..... >your close...turning japeneese is a billy idol song I thought Turning Japanese was done by some one hit wonders with some strange name.......... <> You did read it before..for some reason my post like re-posted itself..which is strange cause it wasn't all that post-worthy in the first place.... >You can count me in as a PJ Harvey fan, although I really do prefer >her >first three albums over the more recent ones. But of course... >Yeah. They sell it in a refrigerator case in a local record shop >(Schoolkids) of all places. And in a couple of restaurants, i >believe.>Never bothered to try any. You should--it's really neat-o. I don't know why--i really dig the fact that it's in glass and that the labels are damn near always different(except on the bug-juice i dunno what's up with that)you can't buy it anywhere around here--the only reason i can get it is cause one of my friends brothers drives truck for a vending company... >I cant drink strawberry-kiwi or even bubblegum soda... ick... They have strawberry-kiwi and bubblegum?! I don't get that here. BOO!!! Anyways--i well say that the flavors leave something to be desired(liquid candy was a good way to phrase it)but it is always intruiging to me for some reason when i've been smoking..hehe..he... >but reality says the 90's are NOT the 60's... the 90's are all about > >shooting your teacher, rioting, murder, suicide, crime, money, >gangs, >guns, drugs, etc, etc, etc... Something like that man..it's sure not about the peace and love anymore.... >Marylin Manson cannot be blamed for woodstock 99 (or can he?) I'm sure Rush Limbaugh(or however you spell the assholes name)or Fred Phelps well find a way....or maybe it was all the gay community that did it! *(gasps and faints)*((please do note the sarcasm)) igggggggg..but i'm just an ant in alaska to you........ M "The fire you like so much in me Is the mark of someone adamantly free But you can't stop yourself from wanting worse 'Cause nothing feeds a hunger like a thirst" - -Liz Phair- _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 02:01:17 -0400 From: "Ginz" Subject: Liz in Pittsburgh Is anyone in the Philadelphia area interested in going to the Pittsburgh Lilith Fair on Aug 13 to see Liz? She's scheduled for that show on the Lilith Fair website. Please let me know.... Ginz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:19:14 -0700 From: MrE Subject: details >your close...turning japeneese is a billy idol song you're close...billy idol is a nirvana lyric... >Guys, if you're reading Details, that gift article? >about the perfect gift(s) to give your girlfriend? >Read it. Act on it. Your girlfriend will fucking >worship you. ...and i quote, "A sports bra made of CoolMax, a high-tech material that wicks away perspiration; a pair of Thorlos sports-specific socks with custom padding for her feet; (1) organically grown coffee; (2) a box of her favorite energy bars."...at the risk of crassness, could we just jog over to the local starbucks, have a breve with a chocolate croissant and maybe one of those dark chocolate truffle-bars and see what we can do about or with the sweat afterwards... liz? the effervescent MrE - -- "Where'd you get these ideas?" Charlie Manson responding to Geraldo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 02:28:55 EDT From: Msmrizing2@aol.com Subject: Liz is recording hey all- Well, there's this band on my best friend's block and I was talking to them the other day. They went downtown (Chicago) to record and as they were walking into the studio LIZ WAS WALKING OUT. I just found that so cool. So they all got to meet her and talk to her and then they got to record right after her..... Just imagine if they had gotten there a half an hour later and they could have heard her. Well, I'm excited to know that she's back in the studio. It gives us something to look forward to. Saw Alkaline Trio today at the Metro. It kicked ass! Just thought I'd share. Katie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:39:24 -0700 From: "dana polachowski" Subject: javanilia i am shot through with java right now--hang on, kids!!! > - -- no one did. We didn't participate in the riots and looting that > followed; we went back to our tent and were blissfully unaware of how bad > it got. > > I don't want to forget the (en)chanting Tibetan monks -- we napped in their > "sacred" tent, in a very relaxing, mellow atmosphere -- but passed on their > offer to bless any items purchased from their merchandise table. I guess > even monks gotta make a buck. cindy!! hello again! this post is so funny.... i can smell the mud and pot and armpits from here.... which is.. just... fine.... awww, come on, you didn't set *anything* on fire? a twig, a pile of dirty clothes, a tent, a main stage?? i mean, what was that "oh, this? a can of gasoline" i heard you say to the guard at the gate? god, your poor friend on *peace patrol*... what a fucking thankless miserable job; i'm so sorry.... i'm assuming because he wasn't carrying any weapons or firehoses that he got to run like hell when it got really bad.... yikes!! > thanks for the help--dana p (not danald, but p as in polachowski) --say that > 3 times fast. that's what i'm sayin', man... typing it is no fun either. hey, what's "a piece of mari"? if it's my friend mari, i'd better tell her.... so liz squeaked in between peggy lee and olivia newton-john? hmmm.... peggy lee is undeniably cool. but what is olivia n-j's contrib to music? leg warmers? oh, sorry, that was jennifer beals, who was #27.... dp NP: my neighbors arguing. no gunshots--yet. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:58:16 PDT From: "Chipko Arnold" Subject: jen trynin/radiohead >Jase wrote: ><    (No matter how many times I hear "Everything," the "If you want >to >know, >*I* know -- you've been holding out to let go" part still gets me. Total >brilliance.)>> I might be thinking of the wrong song here as i have a goldfish brain, but, segue this with radiohead's "Creep"...This is especially good for all you radio people on the list! It's not as good as the Aimee Mann/Galaxie 500 "4th of July" segue which is the best ever, as long as you start G500 as AM stops singing. Sorry i'm being a real anorak here, but i love finding great segues/links with songs. Try New Order "leave me alone" followed by Madder Rose "panic on" or Mar Eitzel "sacred heart" and Jonathan Richman "give Paris one more chance" Hours of fun and then you'll turn sad like me. "and i wonder how i've come to know so much less than i knew before" ... Joseph Lee Henry. "i know the promise is so much better than the real thing" ... Grand Drive. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:19:11 EDT From: SnwbdBetty@aol.com Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #218 Here's my theory: the transition from Baby Got Going to Uncle Alvarez just doesn't work. You've just gone from Poly Bride/Love is Nothing/Baby Got Going (all really upbeat and more light sounding) to the heavier Uncle Alvarez/Only Son/Go on Ahead and the transition doesn't work so well. >>>>> hmmi disagree...1st love is nothing is not an upbeat song in my opinion...maybe 'cause it means sooo much to me...but the tune is slowed down...then it after bgg this really pop-ish song with an abbrubt ending it flows right on into uncle alvarez...it works perfectly for me... ~annifer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:35:50 EDT From: SnwbdBetty@aol.com Subject: vh1 countdown so Liz is #93 in VH-1's top 100 women of Rock and Roll, just after Olivia Newton-John and just before Peggy Lee. (yeah, we can argue the hell out of placement ... my oh-so-antagonizing roommate has already asked me how I feel about Sheila E being above Liz ... that's a whole other post--not that Sheila doesn't deserve props for all her percussion blasting, but I digress)>>>> it was #94.....the countdown thouroughly sucked...i mean i was watching it grasping little pieces of information but all the placement is sooo wrong (hmm as you'll discover tonight hole is before sarah m,.... i mean if ani leads liz because of how she distrubuted her music (i mean that's all they tlaked about in her clip~don't get me wrong i love ani just not 1/2 as much as liz phair) should sarah beat hole 'casue of lilith fair? but on a more positive note all these women were so amazed...such revolutionaries almost..they had they're own personal styles and traits...and that's what makes them so amazing...they don't just make their music...they create the music... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:12:19 -0500 From: Priciliano Luna Subject: 100 greatest women of rock n roll does anyone know where on the web I can see the entire list of artists? is it at usa today or entertainment weekly? Juan Luna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:35:08 -0500 From: saylerja Subject: Message Board! Visit the new Liz-Phair.com Message Board. You can also download winamp skins, a few rare mp3s, and wallpapers! - --Jenny "I wanna be cool, tall, vulnerable, and luscious." - -Liz Phair ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:15:29 -0400 From: "jw" Subject: [none] > > Mickey Hart & Planet Drum -- highlight of the weekend! They were > absolutely, phenomenally GREAT!!! (If anyone was at the West Stage right > after this set, that was *me* who had the MC announce "JARED, CINDY IS > HERE!" -- followed by the kiss, raunchy talk about hand jobs, etc. My 60 > seconds of fame.) > somebody admitting to liking a member of the Grateful Dead on the support system list? wow, all those arbiters of college rock cool who get so upset when anybody admits to liking Jewel or Dave Matthews must be sharpening their poison pens right this moment... Actually, that reminds me: the list of dead rock stars somebody was compiling should include three Grateful Dead keyboard players as well as their rotund leader Anyway, as to references to other songs in Liz tunes, let us not forget the call out to Dylan's "Blood on the Tracks" in "BloodKeeper", the entire (?) Star Spangled Banner in "Bars of the Bed" (Francis Scott Key, lyrics) or, of course, the Rolling Stones "Exile On Mainstreet" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:29:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Lana Subject: lilith in indianapolis, girlysounds OK--I'm coming out of hiding to post today :) First, someone a while back asked if anyone else is going to Lilith Fair in Indianapolis--YES YES I AM!!!! I'm so psyched about seeing Ms. Liz that I can barely stand it. I've had an awesome summer of concerts so far...Ani Difranco, Dave Matthews Band, Tom Petty---only Liz could top off a list like that. Here's my other concern: I check out all these Liz websites and become green with envy at all the songs I don't have b/c, alas, I only have EIG, WS, Juvenilia, and WCSE. Would anyone out there be willing to help out this Liz fiend and supply her with girlysounds and/or any other random tunes she's released???? pretty pretty please with a big ol' cherry on top????? if anyone should happen to take mercy on me, please email me about it. thanks!!! Lana np: the city radio.com (woohoo!!) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:15:11 -0700 (PDT) From: raymond lew Subject: soap star j--eeeyyck! sick! dude, what a rip. first off, that vh1 thing was hosted by jennifer lopez who probably hasn't even heard of half the artists on the top 100 list. second (actually, i guess this should be first), there was an intro by hillary clinton, which wasn't horrible, but just seemed out of place. and then there was sarah mclachlan who so eloquently stated that liz' lyrics were "smart and clever, and really smart" or something to that extent--i'm with you, sandra...pretty weak. all in all (is all we all are) i thought it was a neat concept that ended up contrived and poorly executed (hey! kinda like the last two woodstocks--consumer exploitation at its finest!). anyways... sandra said: <> still? hmmm...you must be walking to my house and delivering them in person! =] and then ~jaime* warped my fragile little mind by saying <> uuuughggghh (is that spellled correctly?)...on second thought, maybe licking myself clean isn't such a bad idea. damnit! where are those weasels when you need them? ;] ...ray np: the guy in cell block 5e humming the song from deliverance. i'm scared. **************************************************************************** "I'm a wreck, I'm obsessed, I'm insane. Isn't that what you want me to say?" --Liz Phair the writings on the wall >> www-scf.usc.edu/~rlew beginning to see the light >> www-scf.usc.edu/~rlew/liz_phair **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:32:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Liz Gould Subject: Paul Simon boots Hi I know this is a weird request but do any of you have any boots of Paul Simon from the Paul Simon/Bob Dylan tour this summer? Thanks And now for the Liz related content...did anyone see her on VH1 last night? I happened to randomly see the 2 sec snippit which was okay. Liz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:54:22 -0400 From: "Jaime" Subject: freakin timezone troubles piss me off Alrighty... SuSy -mers... As we speak, I am on my second beer (not drunk!!!!) and I am watching (well, sorta...) VH1, looking for Liz to be on... I just saw Gloria Estefan (ugh) and I wonder if Liz has already been on... That post said 10... I am eastern time... so we'll see. Ah they just had a tiny-microscopic clip saying "Liz Phair"... and then a short music clip of supernova, my boyfriend said there was a picture, but I missed it (i'm typing) ... Okay why the hell is Ginger Spice the host...??? That makes me feel almost sick... Shit. my boyfriend just said that clip of Liz was in a segment titled: what you missed in the last episode... Is it true??? Fuck. that really makes me mad. If I dont see Liz, I will be very upset at whoever it was who mentioned 10pm... IT IS TRUE JANET JACKSON IS ON AS #77! Damn. TIMEZONES MATTER. THANK YOU. Alright, i guess I shouldnt be so mad, but jeez... mentioning your time-zone takes about hmmmmmm--- 3 letters... Central time zone people... I hope someone saw it. Very upset, because I waited and waited and waited and waited to see Liz at 10, when in fact she was on at 9 Now I'm smoking a j. LATER-- ~jaime* - - --------- HEMPSTOCK 1999--- August 19, 20, 21, 22 Harry Brown's farm, Rt 43, Starks, Maine Sponsored by Maine Vocals Help End Marijuana Prohibition! - - --------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:43:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Katie Lynne Subject: More Vh1 stuff Hey, does anyone know if Elton John and/or Mick Jagger made the 100 Greatest Women in Rock and Roll? No wait...got a little messed up there. Oh well, I enjoyed the segments, was surprised to see ABBA make it for some reason. Can't wait to see the rest, including Joni Mitchell and Stevie Nicks. Oh yeah...check out Vh1's web site and it lists the fans' votes for this Greatest Women.... and Liz was actually at #32. Soo...what went wrong? Katie ();) NP: Lili Haydn === ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "I don't wanna know what's going on, and I don't wanna know what's right or wrong." - Julian Lennon ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:08:58 GMT From: "May Queen" Subject: A Liz Phan Club Would anyone be interested in starting a Liz fan club or is there any in existence? Wouldn't it be nice.........to have liz in your mail. worship the idea! embrace it. get back. nathan np: JANE JENSEN- Comic Book Whore ************************************************************ Don't you know I'm very happy You know me well I'm even happier, I like it i i i i i i like it.... With all of the time in the world to spend it Wild and unwise I wanna be mesmerizing too Mesmerizing too Mesmerizing to you _____________________________Liz Phair ************************************************************ _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V2 #219 ************************************