From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #205 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Wednesday, July 14 1999 Volume 02 : Number 205 Today's Subjects: ----------------- "old liz"? ["May Queen" ] Music that ain't half bad when yer blue. [DeadShark@aol.com] Re: The Pretenders [Vasant Ramamurthy ] George is the Eggman? [Michael Carapella ] swell! ["Nicole W." ] Re: Lilith stuff [Katie Lynne ] yet another dead rock star ["jw" ] live in portland: divorce song [davidwe@burnside.powells.com] More dead people and P.J. Harvey [brian d irby ] Blair Witch ["M.L. Magdalene" ] chopsticks / a non-liz quote ["Morrise, Jason" ] Re: Blair Witch [tommyk7@excite.com] Re: "old liz"? [Miz Phair ] Fallen rock stars [Miz Phair ] breeders update, cindy's sad songs volume one [Danaldj@aol.com] Liz goes down on her knees for Aimee Mann [palik@ix.netcom.com] Vote For Liz! [TADude9999@aol.com] my shroom trip - learn from my mistakes. ["Jaime" ] Bounced message [Jason Long ] Lilith pictures [Katie Lynne ] Liz at Oberlin - a picture! (and more) [Kenneth Lee Subject: "old liz"? i was just wondering why some liz fans are so hooked on he older liz such as EIG. Some people hate the new pop songs and i have noticed that many of the new (different?) sounding songs are at the bottom of their WCSE lists. I am glad that liz now has variety in her songs. some are raw and some are just over all popsy cuteness (Baby Got Going). So What Are Some People's Trip??????? And i have noticed that many saw "I wonder if Liz "Pahir"=) will release an album as good as EIG, well that is not everyone's though the most acclaimed. so let's just face the reality that liz's voice and style are changing. Deal with it. DO NOT DWELL. i find it exTREMEly annoying when people do that little "well back then she was more __________ (fill in the blank). The same goes with HOLE. b4 1st album= fine Pretty on the inside= sell out Live Through Ths= sell out Celebrity Skin= extreme sell out ^^^^^^^^^^^^ these are based on many responses from "veteran" hole fans. well anyway, you Lizbians (sorry Janet=) bye bye bye nathaNNNNNNN _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 03:45:20 EDT From: DeadShark@aol.com Subject: Music that ain't half bad when yer blue. Cindy wrote: > I'm wondering if y'all could post some more heart-mending songs I should > listen to, besides Liz's Divorce Song, of course. I could really use > some help mending a severely broken heart right now. I'm a mood music kinda gal. If I'm just melancholy, which seems to be a trend for me lately, I'll listen to Crowded House's "Together Alone". I sigh so much at the beauty of it, that I'm sort of transported to a better place. Corny, I know, but it seems to work. :) I don't know if these are good songs to listen to when mending the ol' ticker, but when I'm sad/angry for a particular reason(eg: en-may) I'll listen to summa deese... Sad Nora... the aforementioned "Together Alone", all of it. Liz: "Explain It To Me", especially XTC: "Snowman" maybe just for this line alone... "People will always be tempted to wipe their feet on anything with welcome written on it." Jason Falkner: "The Plan" Crowded House: "How Will You Go" R.E.M.: "So. Central Rain" Sinatra: singing Gershwin's "Love is Here to Stay" Sleater-Kinney: "Good Things" Angry Nora... Split Enz: "I See Red", in particular. Oh and about a million other Tim Finn nervous breakdown songs. ;) Bikini Kill: "Pussy Whipped", all of it. :) Lots O' Liz again. XTC: "Your Dictionary" Bouncing back from the murky depths Nora... Crowded House/Neil Finn and all the rest of the Finn related schtuff. Liz: same as always. She works on all the levels. Sinatra: singing "Stars Fell on Alabama" XTC: "Burning With Optimism's Flames", "Helicopter". And the entire albums of "Skylarking" and "Oranges and Lemons". Hmm, maybe I should just say that most XTC makes me feel better. ;) Wow, I am so predictable! Well to those who know me, that is. heh I know I'm forgetting lots... oh well. Anyways, if none of them help, I can always go into #wcse and bitch up a storm! Nora, who might faint after writing such a long ass post. phew! NP: Dave Dobbyn "The Islander" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 03:10:00 -0400 From: Vasant Ramamurthy Subject: Re: The Pretenders >Hey everyone, > >Since there has been talk of them in the past on the list, I was just >wondering if anyone's heard the new Pretenders album yet? I've been thinking >about getting it, but wanted to get a bit of feedback first, since I haven't >heard much about the album, let alone any songs from it. > >If anyone could post their opinions on what it's like, I'd greatly >appreciate it. I got a copy to review for my college newspaper. i've only listened to it twice, and it sounds pretty decent. it's definitely not as atrocious as the latest blondie album. it seems like chrissie hynde has still got some songs left in her. anyways, i should be done with the review by this weekend, so if anyone wants a copy or wants me to post it to the list, let me know. Vasant - ----- LOUDER THAN BOMBS: the very best in punk, post-punk, and indie rock Saturdays, 4-5 pm. (central) Live in RealAudio at http://kwur.wustl.edu Playlists at http://artsci.wustl.edu/~vramamur/playlists.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:36:46 -0700 From: Michael Carapella Subject: George is the Eggman? I posted this about four days ago but as far as I can tell it didn't make it so I'm trying again now. It's pretty much a dead issue at this point but since I typed it, I'm sending it! Well I promise Liz contenton my next post, but I haven't been this rocked by a potential revelation since I found out Mike Brady was gay! (I hope that doesn't offend anyone--it's just that--who would've thunk it?) >> Yes, even though it's George's song and he sings the verses, John sings us 'everybody had a wet dream' and so on... You don't have a copy of Let It Be? Shame on you!<< Thank you sir, may I have another!! That's a Harrison composition? That doesn't even sound remotely like a Harrison song to me. It sound like the same Paul verse/John chorus equation that created A Day in the Life. >>Yep, I have Let It Be on vinyl and cd and it is definately John...even without seeing them do this on the Anthology or Let it Be you could easily tell it was John:-)<< That's what I thought... >>Yeah, I used to think the part you were talking about (everybody have a good time, etc.) was John until I watched that Beatles documentary on ABC and they showed the clip of them singing that on the Let It Be movie, and it was George. The voices are sort of similar.<< Really?!?!?! Is it possible that George was just experimenting with singing that part but it's actually John on the recording? >> Yeah, I think that may have been John... wait 2 secs and I'll tell you for sure, I just put the cd in... Yes... that is John for sure. Okay case closed.<< I'm so confused!! Maybe John really did say, "Cran-berry sauce..." Imagine is still my favorite Harrison song though... - -MIchael ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:10:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nicole W." Subject: swell! That's so fab that Liz is playing two NEW new songs at Lilith. Looks like the contents fo hte new album are starting to take shape, eh? She said to someone at the NYC benefit show that um... what was the song? Shit now I've fucking forgotten. Well I'm giong to find out. Okay checked an old digest. Can't Get OUt Of What I'm Into. Curiously, in teh same post (The one from Allison, a.k.a. Daisyfoo14), Allison mentions that Liz was talking about how she wsas going to put a girlysound on her new album, and Liz said yes, I cant' remember the name, adn Allison said "Hello Sailor?" and Liz said No! Hmmm either Liz was being sneaky, it was about semantics (b/c it isn't technically Hello, Sailor, it's "Stranger"), or maybe Liz was inspired by Allison. GO ALLISON!! So there's CGOOWII, Firewalker, Don't Apologize, Love/Hate, and Stranger. And surely she has more songs up her sleeve... but from what I've heard and hearsay, so far she's on a roll with amazing songs. Yeehaw! Go Liz! Humm... Oh can someone tell me the venue of that show? I'm trying to keep up with my setlists page and I just don't have a venue listed for htat show. And yes, someone scan the damned CK ad because I am in Europe and I don't knwo if Elle (was it Elle?) is the same here, and anyway I went to a books tore today to look at Elle and it was all packaged with a "free novel" (I'm sure it's a piece of genius, maybe even the Great American Novel, although I'm in London. Hmm. Maybe it's the Great European Novel), anwyay so I couldn't look through it. But it was the August issue, and didn't whomever mentioned hte ad say that it was in the July issue? Aaaa so i may never get to buy an actual copy of hte mag. bleh!!! well I guess I can't complain, I'm in London. And I might be going to Scotland this weekend. I was thinking Paris but my plans changed, bu I hope to hit paris before my foray here is over. Yeeeeha! Okay I'm going to go now... I think i need a nap. Later all... - -Nicole Oooh wait... Does anyone remember a 7Up commercial from a few years ago with a woman singing "it's a given... it's teh way it makes you feel... it's the left that you get... it's the rhythm in your step..." I thought that lady sounded like a Liz imitation, and then I was like WHOA, maybe Liz noticed it too, cuz after that I saw two pictures of her, one where she was holding an orange soda, and another where she was holding... Diet SPRITE, as if it was a message, you know? Wooooooooo how weird. Bleh my post doesnt' sound very Nicole-like, if you know whatI mean. I sound like some corny ass teeny bopper fan. maybe i am. buh-bye. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:42:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Katie Lynne Subject: Re: Lilith stuff For those who saw Liz at Lilith, does she rock up Hello Stranger or leaves it as it was on Girlysounds? Curious... The woman who sent me the info about Liz in Portland might be scanning her pictures she got and send them to me. I'll let everyone know how everything goes and if I can put them on my site. We're also arranging a trade so she can get some Liz boots. =) Oh yeah...another curious thought. How can you sing along to an opera? I saw some guy blaring his opera music yesterday and that had to be the funniest thing I've seen. Not only to mention to make my day cuz I was ticked off with baby-sitting my sister's dog all day. grrr...I want more cats. Anyhoo...off to Spaceeggs, Katie ();) === ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ All apologies don't apologize. Explain It To Me, you shall hear my heartbeat. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:04:06 -0400 From: "jw" Subject: yet another dead rock star When counting dead rock stars, let us not forget Gram Parsons, a major acknowledged influence on the likes of REM, Beck, Wilco, the Lemonheads, Elvis Costello, Cowboy Junkies, the Rolling Stones in their more countryish moments (apparently Gram and Keith Richards were smack buddies back in the day) and basically anybody and everybody else who's mixed country and rock since the late sixties (on a couple of tunes, old Liz P. may just fit into that category) who OD'd in 1973. There's actually a great new tribute CD put together by his ex-collaborator Emmylou Harris which I just bought (featuring many of the artists mentioned above as well as Cheryl Crow, the Pretenders and others) (now playing as I write this and enjoy a smooth bowl of sadly mediocre weed). Mostly, though, I'd recommend his two solo albums (featuring Emmylou) which are conveniently available on one CD: GP and Grievous Angel, as well as his work with the Byrds (one album: Sweetheart of the Rodeo), the International Submarine Band and the Flying Burrito Brothers (who, I just found out, still exist though lacking any of the original members, though apparently their latest album has a tune called "Tribute to Gram" or something like that). On a completely different note, I'd like to suggest a couple of songs for Liz to cover, all of them from the South Park movie, which I just saw a couple of nights ago (after smoking quite a few bowls of sadly mediocre weed): Fatherfucka Kyle's Mom's a Bitch the one with the line about "giving hands jobs for crack" jw (also known as Earle "Bubba" Morton) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:33:54 -0700 From: davidwe@burnside.powells.com Subject: live in portland: divorce song An unexpected high point from Lilith here in Portland occured when Sarah came onstage to sing "Divorce Song" with Liz. It was clear she didn't know any of the words. I'm not sure she'd even heard the song before. She mostly just stood by her mic, mumbling incoherently. It was pretty funny. Of course, Liz was great. And Beth Orton was fantastic, too. Highly recommended if you get a chance to see her. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:34:58 -0500 From: brian d irby Subject: More dead people and P.J. Harvey I was wondering if anyone was going to mention Duane Allman, and I'm glad someone did. Anyway, a couple more dead folks that ought to be remembered: Gram Parsons, country-rock pioneer; and Robert Johnson, king of the Delta Blues (shot to death? strangled? no one knows for sure, which makes it even cooler). I read that P.J. Harvey has recorded the old Carter Family song, "John Hardy." could anyone tell me which CD this is on? Brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:36:08 PDT From: "M.L. Magdalene" Subject: Blair Witch >well has anyone heard of the >blair witch project? . I'm so excited about this film!!! I'm sure i'll have to wait till i'm in the city to see it as it probably won't come to this hick town that i live in! Did anyone catch the special they did on it on the Sci-Fi channel? M _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:51:45 -0500 From: "Morrise, Jason" Subject: chopsticks / a non-liz quote I know this has probably been discussed on here before, but did liz really know julia roberts when she was at summer camp? I don't know why that question suddenly popped into my head, but sometimes I wonder how much her songs are based in truth, and how much of it is a kind of fictional universe. I remember reading a lilith interview with five of the women (sarah, liz, natalie merchant, paula cole, and sheryl crow I think) and they were talking about how natalie merchant is always assuming another persona in her songs. I guess liz does that sometimes (big tall man). anyway... I have a non-liz question for all of you out there. does anyone know what book this quote is from? "Did people leave you, did their spirits simply take off, because you wouldn't read a book that turned them on? He knew now the answer was yes." jason ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:23:26 PDT From: tommyk7@excite.com Subject: Re: Blair Witch On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:36:08 PDT, M.L. Magdalene wrote: > >well has anyone heard of the > >blair witch project? Didn't see the Sci-Fi preview, but the buzz in DC for this movie is approaching "Phantom Menace" proportions. There was a long article in the 'Post' about it Sunday and the radio stations are pushing it non-stop. I heard from the Sundance camp that it's really good for such a low-budget film. TMK NP: Bob Dylan, _Desire_ And if the lights were out Could you even bear To kiss her full on the mouth Or anywhere? - --Morrissey, "November Spawned a Monster" _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:51:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Miz Phair Subject: Re: "old liz"? - --- May Queen wrote: > i was just wondering why some liz fans are so hooked > on he older liz such as > EIG. Some people hate the new pop songs and i have > noticed that many of the > new (different?) sounding songs are at the bottom of > their WCSE lists. I've seen that too, and although I've been around since Exile, I have to say I like some of the poppy songs. I think a lot of us got really attached to Polyester Bride and Johnny Feelgood when they came out and played them to death, and maybe like them less now as a result. For my sake, I love them too. Frankly, I think there's nothing I wouldn't like that Liz does. It's surprising, cause I was attracted for EIG for a certain reason, but now Liz (and even me) have grown and changed. I look forward to the next album and the next and the next, etc.... paige _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:33:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Miz Phair Subject: Fallen rock stars I'd like to add a couple names to the sadly fallen rock star list that I haven't seen mentioned as yet. One's more well-known than the other; both had immense impact me. The first is Jeff Buckley. I can't think of anyone's music that's sung more poetically and delivered more strongly than Jeff Buckley's. I almost have to cry every time I listen. The other is John Campbell a rock/blues guitarist I had the extreme pleasure of 1.) seeing in concert - a true vision that neither of his recorded albums could encapsulate despite their wonder and 2.) conversing with him briefly. I - and everyone lucky enough to have experienced him, I'm sure - miss him desperately. paige= _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:27:57 EDT From: Danaldj@aol.com Subject: breeders update, cindy's sad songs volume one <<"bh" < Subject: my shroom trip - learn from my mistakes. Well, I decided to post... and I figured I'd just respond to some posts from ssd#204 but it's funny cause the only one I have anything to reply about it hurricane cindy's... so here it is... >I don't get it. Why is it that so many people don't like Baby Got Going? Well, truth is, I hated Baby Got Going the first time I heard it... and for awhile after that... but then I made a mix tape for my car, and that song mysteriously jumped on it... and now after hearing it about 3271 times... it is now one of my favorites. Now I hate Uncle Alverez. Go figure. But I really think the next single should be "cool,tall, vulnerable and luchious" and my friend thinks "what makes you happy" would also make a good single. What about "JF" ? is that going to be a single?? theres another good one. >I'm wondering if y'all could post some more >heart-mending songs I should listen to, besides Liz's Divorce Song, of >course. hmmm. well if you want depressing... try Bob Dylan's _Time Out of Mind_... the saddest album I've ever loved, or Freedy Johnston's "Bad Reputation" ... Diana Ross and the Supremes "Where did our love go", or the Turtles had that stalker-song "Happy Together"... and anything from the 'HEAVY' soundtrack. For angst... Wank "Never" from _Get A Grip On Yourself_, Hole "Garbage Man" or "Loaded" from _Pretty On the Inside... and also The Violent Femmes had "kiss off" which is the ultimate. >I've done acid once, mushrooms >once -- and although many of my friends swear it's great fun, I wouldn't >recommend it to anyone. I didn't have great experiences with either. I feel as though I should throw in my experience too. I have never done acid... its 'man-made' and I've always been against that stuff... but I did shrooms when I was a freshman in highschool. I was about 90 lbs at 5'1" and I chomped on two huge caps... my friend josh said they would fuck me up, but I just remember feeling real mellow and just being nervous to fall asleep... so I really didnt get much more than a body buzz. The second time I tried shrooms I was a freshman in college... maybe at 110lbs and still 5'1"... this time we bought a quarter bag... and my friend Thom and I split it. I ate them on a peanut butter sandwich, he crushed his and put them in hot tea. After about 45 minutes I punched Thom for wasting my last $20 bucks. Two hours later I was tripping my ass off. I felt really-really-out of it. Like drunk, but I could think... except my thought were racing around my head at about 180mph... and I thought I was seeing the world for the first time... Everything was fucked up. Thom took me to a friend's room... where our three friends 2 female 1 male, took their shirts off and proceeded to fuck with my head and told me I was the strange one... I remember saying "why are you doing this?" and they just stared at me to freak me out... it worked. Naked land pushed me over the edge. Thom spent the rest of the night chasing me from room-to-room as I clutched a cap gun, a bottle of SunnyD (I thought it was gasoline and it was powering me) and my room key... I kept screaming at everyone I saw "You killed my family!" "Return me to sender--- I have a malfunction" and stupid shit like that. I went to my friend Erin's room for salvation (and Thom was sick of babysitting)... So I got on the phone and called another friend -- I then told him I was crying blood (I was crying and had a runny nose-- I thought it was blood) and he told me I was fucking crazy... he then found out I was 'out of my head' and talked me down a bit, until I had a flashback of everyone taking their shirt off earlier... Then I was gone. And I mean gone. staring at the wall mumbling things that weren't even english to myself. gone. Later Thom took me to my room and laid down in my bed with me and forced me to focus on the glow in the dark stars plastered all over my ceiling... I eventually cried myself to sleep and woke up feeling stupid and super-tired. My friend Erin took down some of my nonsense speak that night and made a poem for me. Here it is: Jaime's Trippin' Poem Am I the only dirty-evil girl in heaven? I'm surrounded by underwear and I feel sooo dirty.dirty.dirty. I'm drinking gasoline. Now... I wouldnt say my experience is typical. But nobody ever told me that if you do any type of psychedelic and you are not at a good point in your life (be it relationships, self esteem or any type of stress) DO NOT DO ACID OR SHROOMS. I CANNOT STRESS THAT ENOUGH! I was not up for it. I was new at college, didnt get along with my roommate, I had family problems, boyfriend problems... and the assholes who took their shirts off intentionally tried to fuck with me. This all attributed to my BAD trip. If you are feeling really good about yourself...(you cant hide your problems when you are tripping--they come out...) YOU MUST *KNOW* WHO YOU ARE....as in-- you MUST be confident. and if you are... try shrooms or acid. but dont get scared. Just let it flow... and I'd suggest you get with a few friends you'd trust with your life and go somewhere very private (not a college campus) and trip and have a good time. If you feel scared... let a friend know. have them talk you out of it. Appreciate nature... JUST WHATEVER YOU DO STAY CALM!!! If you panic youre screwed, because panic speeds up your head --which is already speeding at about 180 mph. Follow these rules and you should be alright. dont forget to breathe! I regretted my experience, but now I am glad I had it, because I didnt know I was so depressed. And now that I am more stable and I'm actually happy... I have been thinking about trying psychedelics again. This time my friend wants to try acid... this wont be until August... but I think I'm ready... Now that I know you just cant do acid or shrooms without checking in with yourself and making sure youre up to it, I think things will go more smoothly. Also... if its your first time... I dont recommend taking an entire 1/8 of shrooms, and I've heard one hit is enough for a first time acid trip. And dont forget that acid last like 12-14 hours or something (shrooms arent that long... but also take their time)... *plan ahead*, you might not feel like getting up for work early the next day, or the day after that... depending on how it went. Anyone ever done peyote? I have been offered it recently... I'd like to hear experiences. ~jaime* - - ------- - "I wont lie, then i can't deny, I did it all for the nookie..." --Limp Bizkit ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:08:54 -0400 From: "Ginz" Subject: Liz on VH1 VH1 did a short article on GWAR. These guys are pretty bizarre, for those who've never seen them. During the interview, they played the intro to Polyester Bride. Umm.........uhhh........... I dunno. Not to mention, I heard Back to the discussion of Morrissey.... there is an age-old argument in the Morrissey fan community that parallels our discussion of whether or not men can truly identify with Liz's music. The Question: Can a woman truly indentify with Morrissey? I going to leave my opinion out here. This argument could go on forever. I just wanted to point out the similarity.... Ginz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:29:31 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: "Nelson Mark/Dr. Tristan Kingsley-Reynbolt" Subject: Liz CK Article. . .Write ME! Everybody! The Liz CK article in Glamour, etc is just fucking cool! I've got it scanned in high res (Photoshop does wonders) with the screening taken out of most of it. . .if you want it a copy, write me, I'll send you a ZIP file of the pic in JPG! Drop me a line at dr.reynbolt@altavista.net ! L-8-tr all! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:12:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Katie Lynne Subject: Lilith pictures Hey Phairies, check out this link to see Liz at the Portland, Oregon Lilith Fair. Courtesy of LeeAnne. http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/birdland/9820/lizlilithpics.html The third picture is of Liz introducing Sarah before they sing Divorce Song. Also check out her other pictures if interested. http://members.aol.com/rlmom2jj/lfpix.html Enough from me, need to lurk for a while. This cd is making me cry. Nitie, Katie ();) NP: Wings Greatest === ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ All apologies don't apologize. Explain It To Me, you shall hear my heartbeat. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:25:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Lee Subject: Liz at Oberlin - a picture! (and more) Hi everyone, Thanks to Jay Winston, I now have a picture of Liz from the 1988 Oberlin yearbook. The direct link to it is: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/2471/page500.html I have also added pictures of Liz from the December 1993 Chicago's Subnation magazine and July 1994 Details magazine. Enjoy! - -Ken kenmlee@ix.netcom.com MeSmErIzInG - AnOtHeR LiZ PhAiR WeBsItE http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/2471/ ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V2 #205 ************************************