From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #201 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Saturday, July 10 1999 Volume 02 : Number 201 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Not a clear site [Katie Lynne ] morrisey, good liz karma, george harrison, wizrd o' oz [Valerie Barry ] pj [MrE ] no let it be [Kaufmann@IPFW.EDU (Kaufmann,Mike)] Re: support-system-digest V2 #200 [the Tick ] I've got afeeling..has no george>:~/ [Priciliano Luna ] Re: PJ Harvey [YuriG2@aol.com] Re: PJ Harvey [MLevine171@aol.com] Liz in Calvin Klein Ads [vjohns@acad.com] Article: sm & lyric analysis (fwd) [John Kim ] everybody had a wet dream ["Nicole W." ] Pj harvey, morrissey, damn that johnny f*#@in' feelgood! [Danaldj@aol.com] Article about Courtney Love from today's Toronto Sun [Jason Long ] Bounced message [Jason Long ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:38:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Katie Lynne Subject: Not a clear site Honest note before I continue on...mind's not clear. Not crystal...cleeeeeeeeeeear. Morrissey's cool. Fro-bro almost met him whenever he was in FL playing at UCF. FL's ohki...why does it suck when it comes to concerts or is it just an Orlando thing? Probably frightening cuz we just got a death from a former Hare Krishna member at Sea World. Hare Krishna...reminds me of the Beatles. Would have been cool to hear Fuck and Run or Flower in the movie American Pie. I like that movie, really, really funny. Both songs sound like they could easily fit too...wouldn't have mattered...rated R. Wonder why...there's never been an Explicit Lyrics stamp plastered over EIG either...nah..doesn't need it. Next subject... Just need to hit the sacks that's all and just said good-nite to a friend who sent me a link to her new web page. She informed me she's working on adding some Kuma Sutra to it too...such a strange world. Well, nitie! or morning! Katie ();) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 01:38:17 -0400 From: Valerie Barry Subject: morrisey, good liz karma, george harrison, wizrd o' oz all this talk of morrisey makes me want to share my very favorite thing about morrisey...i love that nobody can sing just the lyrics of a smiths/morrisey song without imitating his disticntive voice. you don't jsut hum a few bars or mumble the words, 'cause it's kinda fun to exaggerate the accent. liz content: i would just like to tell the list how much i dig tad. when i lamented that my live liz tape broke last week, he sent me a new one just to be nice. to keep the good karma going, i gave a friend a copy of EIG that i bought used and dirt cheap for $6.99 - his first liz (although i've pretty much converted him in the car). anyway, 3 cheers for tad. >On a side note, how many here have done the Pink Floyd DSOTM/Wizard of Oz >Synchronicity? Pretty cool huh? i've NEVER done that and keep meaning to. we jsut talked about it tonight, after seeing a double feature of "vertigo"and "psycho" tonight (yikes!) at the fox theatre. they're playing the wizard of oz there and we thought it might be cool to get stoned and bring discmans with dsotm..will it only work with the vhs tape? >Don >(the cunning linguist) this cracked me up. >Harvey/Phair fans out there? YES! shallow girly beatle moment: the george harrison talk just makes me think of a poster my friend in orlando has...its black and white and has all four beatles' profiles (later years b/c john has facial hair), and george not only looks drop dead hot, but way better than john or paul. geroge needed to stand sideways more often. i'm tired and my face is numb... np: my wacky post-scary-movie imagination and portishead (self titled, which i also got used today) *********************************************************** "...well look at me i'm frightening my friends..." - -Liz Phair ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 23:31:01 -0700 From: Michael Carapella Subject: George is the Eggman? Well I promise Liz contenton my next post, but I haven't been this rocked by a potential revelation since I found out Mike Brady was gay! (I hope that doesn't offend anyone--it's just that--who would've thunk it?) >> Yes, even though it's George's song and he sings the verses, John sings us 'everybody had a wet dream' and so on... You don't have a copy of Let It Be? Shame on you!<< Thank you sir, may I have another!! That's a Harrison composition? That doesn't even sound remotely like a Harrison song to me. It sound like the same Paul verse/John chorus equation that created A Day in the Life. >>Yep, I have Let It Be on vinyl and cd and it is definately John...even without seeing them do this on the Anthology or Let it Be you could easily tell it was John:-)<< That's what I thought... >>Yeah, I used to think the part you were talking about (everybody have a good time, etc.) was John until I watched that Beatles documentary on ABC and they showed the clip of them singing that on the Let It Be movie, and it was George. The voices are sort of similar.<< Really?!?!?! Is it possible that George was just experimenting with singing that part but it's actually John on the recording? >> Yeah, I think that may have been John... wait 2 secs and I'll tell you for sure, I just put the cd in... Yes... that is John for sure. Okay case closed.<< I'm so confused!! Maybe John really did say, "Cran-berry sauce..." Imagine is still my favorite Harrison song though... - -MIchael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 23:52:08 -0700 From: MrE Subject: pj >Always read the small texts! Aparently only >you get five votes a day. But >that should be enough to beat Courteney Cox >tomorrow. Hey, I never have time for anything. >Esp. not for nonsense Why am I >writing this? Ah yes, for you of course, Mr.E! um...thank you? >Anyways--I was just discussing PJ Harvey >with another list member and it >dawned on me that there had never been >much discussion about Polly Jean >(not as long as i've been around anyhow) >so i was just wondering if there was a >lot of Harvey/Phair fans out there? ...i used to bring up pj real, real often, but it seemed as though there was very little interest in her latest effort, 'is this desire', which i think is an absolute treasure. i saw her on her last tour in la and was completely mesmerized by the artistic nature of her performance...spontaneous, intense, volitale and personal...not the usual set list variety performer...but some one truly unique in what is rapidly becoming a generic business... liz phair left coast news: would like to be mesmerizing...would settle for mesmerized MrE ~~ "Jose Cuervo!" Janis expressing her breakfast food preference ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:40:19 -0500 From: Kaufmann@IPFW.EDU (Kaufmann,Mike) Subject: no let it be Of course, perhaps the offender was merely aware of John's characterization of Let It Be as "the shittiest load of tapes ever recorded," and following out his not-so-tacit wishes that the whole enterprise be forgotten. DarksideoftheMoon wrote: >Yes, even though it's George's song and he sings the verses, John sings us 'everybody had a wet dream' and so on... You don't have a copy of Let It Be? Shame on you! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:52:20 -0400 From: the Tick Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #200 >Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 11:24:16 PDT >From: tommyk7@excite.com >Subject: GvsB > >Anyone going to see Girls Against Boys at the 9:30 club (DC) this >Friday? >Anyone know of them? I only know them from the _Clerks_ and >_Mallrats_ >soundtracks. Anyway, it's only $10... > >TMK girls vs. boys are great in concert .posers that they are. their records kinda suck but in concert they're good. another reason to go is that burning airlines(ex-jawbox) and bluetip are opening. bluetip ar dsi chord band that plays alot in d.c. but i don't know if they are any good. what else is there to do on a thurseday night? tick you can't be what you were so better start being just what you are- fugazi ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 01:39:11 -0500 From: Priciliano Luna Subject: I've got afeeling..has no george>:~/ As for I've got a feeling...its a lennon-mccartney composition. Paul sings the verses and John sings the everybody had a hard year part. In fact, george is pretty much vocally absent during the rooftop concert in let it be the movie. except for some backup on I dig a pony. Sorry..its even like that on video,cd,lp, and bootlegs. Juan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:38:26 EDT From: YuriG2@aol.com Subject: Re: PJ Harvey > Anyways--I was just discussing PJ Harvey with another list member and it > dawned on me that there had never been much discussion about Polly Jean(not > as long as i've been around anyhow)so i was just wondering if there was a > lot of Harvey/Phair fans out there? I have been on the list for a week or two now and felt it was about time I posted. I have been a huge PJ fan from the beginning but have only just discovered Liz Phair this year. As another subscriber mentioned Liz is almost completely unheard of in the UK. It is difficult to understand why beacuse I think she would fit in well on a number of radio shows here. Anyway Liz Phair and Polly Jean are definitely my two favourite female artists. Can anyone tell me if Liz has ever toured in the UK? I will leave you with a list of my favourite PJ Harvey albums and favourite albums of the year so far (I think it's great that everyone is picking Sleater-Kinney) Polly albums... 1. Rid Of Me 2. Dry 3. Is This Desire? 4. Too Bring You My Love 5. 4-Track demos 6. Dance Hall At Louse Point Of the year... 1 Sleater Kinney - The Hot Rock 2 Suede - Head Music 3 Pavement - Terror Twilight 4 Blur - 13 5 Underworld - Beaucoup Fish note: If I had heard the new albums by Chemical Brothers and Super Furry Animals the above list could be different :) thanks, Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:36:23 EDT From: MLevine171@aol.com Subject: Re: PJ Harvey because of all of u, i checked out Sleater-Kinney, and I'm in love with them...I love dig me out..the hot rock is good too, and I have the self-titled album, but I haven't given it a listen yet.. steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:13:32 -0700 From: vjohns@acad.com Subject: Liz in Calvin Klein Ads Hey, has anyone seen the Calvin Klein ad with Liz? It is in the new Elle. I didn't even recognize her at first! That's all, back to lurking. Valerie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:32:31 -0400 (EDT) From: John Kim Subject: Article: sm & lyric analysis (fwd) if you want even more liz phair vs. pavement content here it goes. scroll down for a look at what stephen malkmus says about the song flower during a session of lyrical jukebox. big hug. john kim email: jjk50@columbia.edu aol IM: puppechase forgive the wierd format. the cut and paste is fucked, but it's still readable. from our local rag http://loaf.ilcnet.com/scripts/oneweb.nl.cla?Page=Article&UID=MTTWJLREFFELK2 T8N2JR&333=4957 is the url if you want the origianl more readable version: Liz Phair, "Flower": "Every time I see your face/I get all wet between my legs/Every time you pass me by/I heave a sigh of pain/Every time I see your face/I think of things unpure, unchaste/I want to fuck you like a dog/I'll take you home and make you like it." She's painful and she's wet. She wants to fuck you like a dog. She'll take you home and make you like it. That's really cool. She must like this, taken like this out of her songs. [Laughs] I think it's pretty funny -- not funny -- but sort of shocking in its own way. But I never noticed it being that shocking when I listen to her. I guess I did hear her say, "I wanna be your blow job queen." I thought that was pretty cool. And I think that album's actually a pretty great record, Exile In Guyville. For me, if I did this it would have to be totally ironic. I mean, I don't know what she was thinking when she did it. Maybe she was really into it. Cause I know these are sentiments that some women really feel. [Laughs] There's obviously girls who related to it. And then there were, of course, all the writer nerds, critic guys, that really got turned on by it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:47:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nicole W." Subject: everybody had a wet dream Hello hello hello. You know, even though "dp" means some lewd act, it sure turns up in alot of places. I was walking on Oxford St in London today and saw a store whose logo was "dp". the store was dorothy parker or something. Can I tell you how I detest hairs? I mean I have a thing about loose hairs. I think they're nearly the most disgusting thing on earth. there is an eyelash right in front (front being the side closest to me) fo this keyboard, and I refuse to tuch it or try to blow it away, cuz it might backfire and land on me. EWWW i'm just trying not to look at it. Aboout the George Harrison/I've Got a Feeling thing, I really strive to be able to tell all four of the beatles' voices apart. I mean Ringo is obvious, but sometimes I do get a bit confused with the ohter three. Also, Pearl jam has covered I've Got a Feeling efore, and Ed V. does a pretty damned good job with it. :) Okay I went to that hottest females poll and did my voting. Natalie Portman is #1 and she's pretty cool, but uhh... who htefuck is voting for brittney spears and all that shit? Bollocks! sigh. American fans of Star Wars, there are some reasons you should feel lucky to live in the U.S., one of htem being prices of Star Wars toys. I went to this huge toystore, and just as a referece, I looked at the star wars figurines, becasuse i worked at a toy store and know how much they cost in the u.s. ($6.99). Well at th is place they were 9.99 pounds, which depending on the exchange rate is about... oh $17.00. nuts. blah blah blah. this is a long post. oh shit! to whomever said that that lawyer chick on that dumb mtv show looks a bit like liz... i MUSt jump down your throat,e ven though i mean you no physical harm. THat chick is like a way uglier version of Jennifer Love Hewitt, man! to compare liz with THAT??? icky. i mean i'm not 100% sure that the girl i'm referring to is the lawyer, but she's on that show. i've never watched a full episode so I don't know the premise, so yeah. hmaybe you DO mean a different girl,b ut if NOT... oy. Okay I'll let you rest your eyes now, or maybe your page down key if you're just skipping this post. Later, Nicole ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 19:12:40 EDT From: Danaldj@aol.com Subject: Pj harvey, morrissey, damn that johnny f*#@in' feelgood! Bob wrote: <> Damn, you're cool. Do you remember a loose set list? Did they do "I know it's over?" or was that after The Queen is Dead?- I always get confused bcos of Rank- anyway, that is one of my favorite Smiths songs. ....baggytrousers wrote: <<"your arsenal"...a good album that i would have bought even if it just had 'seasick, yet still docked' on continuous play..>> I used to listen to that song over and over and over.. I have always liked morrissey's depressing, slow songs the most,,, and yes, "My Love Life" is awesome (w/chrissy hynde on vocals, y'know.) <> Was it warm and sweaty or cold and clammy? ... seriously, though, that's cool. <> IS this TMK's clever way of admitting that he, too, is a Morrissey fan? <> Hell yeah! But I like her 1st album , DRY, the best. I am not too crazy about "Is this Desire" Did you know she's gonna be on sessions soon? Hopefully that won't get fucked up the way the liz broadcast did. <> Yeah, I went to log on yesterday and everything was different. What a surprise! I'm not sure that i like it, but it does look a bit nicer, it's just new stuff to get used to now. So apparently, Mr. Johnny Feelgood has been racking up those frequent flyer miles lately. He must be really tired from wrecking havoc on so many of liz phair fans' lives. Let's get him girls! have a wonderful weekend. It has cooled off here in NJ where it was 115 degrees in the beginning of the week, hotter than California according to my sources...well Northern CA, at least. dp in nj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 23:45:00 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Article about Courtney Love from today's Toronto Sun Hey everyone, I haven't had much time to post lately, but I did want to type up this article and share it with you all since there are a lot of Hole fans on the list, in addition to the fact that it's just damn cool, in my opinion. Normally I don't read the Toronto Sun -- I much prefer either the Toronto Star or the Globe & Mail -- but I picked up today's edition when I saw Courtney's name in a headline on the front page. I can't tell you how good it made me feel when I read the article about her -- it was really heartwarming to read about someone whom I admire very much doing something so selfless and good. Anyway, here's the article: A Hole in one! Shock rocker tries a little tenderness By MIKE D'AMOUR Sun Media CALGARY -- Rock's reigning devil woman played an angel of mercy yesterday, comforting a pregnant lady and two other victims of a car crash. "She was talking the whole time, trying to comfort us," said Darlene Rogers, one of the three people in a Volkswagen that flipped on the Trans-Canada Hwy. "She was really helpful." Rogers was talking about Courtney Love, whose roadside show of a heart of gold is a far cry from her foul-mouthed, crotch-grabbing stage persona -- or her legendary depravity with husband Kurt Cobain, the grunge god whose murky suicide cast dark shadows on Love. Rogers, four months pregnant with twins, and her mom Diana Covill, were passengers in the VW driven by Rogers' husband Chris when it flipped about 11 a.m. in front of tour buses carrying Love and her band Hole about 30 km east of Calgary. Love and her mates got the shaken trio out of the wreck and "helped us flip the car back onto its wheels," Rogers said. "We didn't know who she was. I just knew a woman with short blond hair came out of the bus and helped me." Love comforted them and warmed their hearts with hot tea. "She even told us she had a nice bed in the back of the bus we could lie on if we wanted." RCMP Const. Daryl Bedard said he was impressed with Love and her band. The victims "were obviously in shock," he said, and "there were a lot more vehicles that drove by the accident ... I guess that speaks volumes as to what kind of person she is." The trio stayed on the bus until an ambulance arrived. They were treated and released from hospital. After the tour buses pulled out, the trio learned they had an invitation to Hole's performance at tonight's Edgefest concert in Calgary. But they're not likely to go. Sipping some with a star is one thing, but Hole's brand of gritty rock isn't their cup of tea. "We mostly listen to gospel," said Covill, the wife of a United Pentecostal minister. ***** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 00:50:38 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: "Ginz" Subject: Dave Mead on radio I've emailed everyone that won a copy of the NYC benefit show. I used a lottery this time because the east coasters complain that the west coasters get the digest at 10 pm while we east costers get the digest at 1 am. Then, there's those who don't get the digest.... just trying to make it fair!!! I was listening to WXPN in Philly, non-commercial radio from the University of Pennsylvania....(this is not 'college radio') They have a daily feature called "First Impression" where they play a song they think you'll like after the first time you've heard it. Today, they played a song by David Mead "Everyone knows...." I cannot remember the exact title. I was just pleased to hear it for the first time.......again. (for those who don't know, David Mead opened for Liz at many shows on the recent college tour) His album is supposed to be out in a few weeks...... You may know WXPN as the home of nationally syndicated show, "The World Cafe" You might have a few live tapes of vaious artists from that show. How many posts have I made this week? Ginz NP: Manic Street Preachers - This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 00:51:46 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: "Ginz" Subject: Morrissey Well, it seems we've started a Morrissey revolution. My favorite albums include Vauxhall & I and Your Arsenal. I feel that whitechocolatespaceegg is Liz Phair's Vauxhall & I....that perfect album. I've been a Morrissey fan for a long time, and once I heard Liz, in a matter of 1 day, I had a new obsession. Maybe the reverse will be true for some of you..... I was fortunate enough to see Moz in Philly on the Maladjusted tour in '97. For those who missed out.... after 10 years, he finally pulled not one, but TWO smiths classics off the shelf. Paint a Vulgar Picture and Shoplifters of the World, Unite. (yes, I know he played 'London' a few times before that). I am determined to find a Smiths influence in Liz's music. Everything is connected, somehow. All roads lead to the ocean. Now where are my Girlysound discs? Ginz NP: Ring Ring!! My ears still hear the pounding from that ORGY show tonight in Philly. Thank goodness for earplugs. And yes, they did play a swingin' medley of Blue Monday and that Pete Burns tune, "You spin me right round, baby, right round, like a record baby......." Jealous?. ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V2 #201 ************************************