From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #166 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Tuesday, June 8 1999 Volume 02 : Number 166 Today's Subjects: ----------------- My Own Private Soundtrack [Dan ] Just one thing I think ["Nicole W." ] All That Stuff You Didn't Need To Know--For a Reason ["M.L.Magdalene" ] still thinking about my soundtrack [sandra ] Ani's marriage [Catherine Lewis ] Liz concert on Thursday [AMCFLND1@aol.com] soundtrack........ [QueenB880@aol.com] Ani~Liz~Joanna Kokosis ["Jaime" ] Soundtrack to my Life [Suzanne Walsh ] my so called life and shitloads of money [Danaldj@aol.com] my so-called soundtrack [raymond lew ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 01:41:29 -0400 From: Dan Subject: My Own Private Soundtrack Being a compulsive list maker..and having pondered over this same question several times...I can't resist the "LIFE SOUNDTRACK" question... mine would be... 1. "Dover Beach" - Bangles 2. "Hideaway" - Erasure 3. "Rid Of Me" - PJ Harvey 4. "Shatter" - Liz Phair 5. "Can't ALways Get What You Want" - Rolling STones 6. "StarMan" - David Bowie 7. "I Don't Wanna Be Your Friend" - Cyndi Lauper 8. "Softer SOftest" - Hole 9. "When I Grow Up" - Garbage 10. "Putting The Damage On" - Tori Amos 11. "Untouchable Face" - Ani DiFranco 13. "Left To My Own Devices" - Pet Shop Boys 14. "Night Swimming" - REM 15. "Writing Notes" - Jen Trynin 16. "One More Hour" - Sleater-Kinney 17. "Tyler" - Toadies 18. "Troy" - Sinead O'Connor 19. "Dan Abnormal" - Blur 20. "Strange Loop?" - Liz Phair -Only because I think this is the MOST perfect ending to ANY kind of compilation...be it my life, a debut album - or hell...even an anthology of the greatest rap songs ever written...Strange Loop is the best ending ever!! *Keep in mind, this list changes day to day...i mean, if you judge me by that list above..then my entire life looks like one BIG messy break up...oh well.. stereotypical as it may be...i love it :) Dan. (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)*(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) Fame and fortune took its toll, He's not the king of rock 'n roll anymore, He's just a junkie redneck. -LIZ PHAIR, "Elvis, Be True". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 01:44:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nicole W." Subject: Just one thing I think >joe lies (when he cries) - th bouncing souls This is a real song??? Is this the song that Lily Taylor's character is singing in "Say Anything?" That is the movie I mean, right? Okay if it isn't Say Anything, it is the movie that has Lily Taylor playing guitar at a party singing a song htat contains the lines "Joe lies when he cries" . Yeah. Whomever was saying that telnet makes you look like you can't spell and all thsi kind of stuff, I feel your pain. This is the predicament I face every day, and I refuse to fucking backspace to fix spelling errors, so I send my shit error-full. And look like a drunken idiot. anyway, i'm writing two e-mails at once, one on AOL, one on here, so i'm going to close this one and finish my aol one. bye. - -Nicole ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 22:47:11 PDT From: "M.L.Magdalene" Subject: All That Stuff You Didn't Need To Know--For a Reason >as long as i'm here...someone asked why ani was such a "gay icon" even >though she obviously isnt gay b/c she's married to a guy so here's my two >cents: i've never read or heard ani say she is gay, she's bisexual and >reagardless of the gender of the person she fell in love with, she has >really good queer politics and is definitely queer in my book. I never said that i actually thought Ani WAS/IS gay--it just seems as though many people associate her with being so because she is Bi. I've read some articles by uneducated people were they have referred to her as being gay and i'm like the only straight person i know that listens to her and they tell me that it's cause Ani is all about gay...gay..gay...gay...and i was just wondering why that was. I dont' think she specifically has any "queer politics" she just has GOOD politics and doesn't give a fuck. "To me whats more important is the person that i bring-not just getting to the same resteraunt and eating the same thing"-Ani- >"who will sayeeave your soul?"---JEWEL >"hands"---JEWEL >"baby one more time"---BRITANY SPEARS >"foolish games"---JEWEL Would i be correct in sensing saracasm? > >To girl who said she was angela chase... NO! I have dibs on that! All >through 10th and even 11th grade, people would constantly stop me and say >"You know who you remind me of? That girl from "My So-Called Life." Ironic. People did the same thing to me--and my best friend all through high school was just like RayAnne. It still pisses me off that they took that show off! >Okay note to readers: do not see You've Got Mail if you haven't already. I thought it was rather lame too. Ecspecially the end...it was just...the fucking feel to good about yourself movie of the year! Okay..now for all my un-liz-related babble..... As of 39 minutes ago i turned 18! I just got my nose peirced and it is hurting...and um...i reccomend that you all read "The Stinky Cheese Man and Other Stupid Fairy Tales" i forget who it is by, but it is a chilrens book.(obviously). Don't know why i felt the need to impose that on you--but i'm bored--and i did. Anyways, now i'm going to attempt to do this soundtrack to my highschool years thing--which shall be hard *"Whip-Smart" *"Disentegration" The Cure *"Wish" The Cure(***The Edge of The Deep Green Sea***) "Staring at the Sea" The Cure "To Bring You My Love" PJ Harvey "Rid of Me" PJ Harvey *"Rage Against The Machine"(Self titled-album) "That Day" Poe "Silent All These Years" Tori Amos *"Boys For Pele" Tori Amos *"Anti-Christ Superstar" Marliyn Manson "Wish You Were Here" Pink Floyd *"The Wall" Pink Floyd *"18 Essential Songs" Janis Joplin **Every Nirvana Album "Black" Pearl Jam "Glycerine" Bush *"Live Through This" Hole Perhaps i should just stop NOW the little**inticate that i listened to the hole album till it was just warped and destructed. Apoligizing for the Babble in Advance, M _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 01:19:40 -0500 From: palik@ix.netcom.com Subject: Photos of Liz's artwork ? I forget who the fellow support-system was that was going to take a photo of a piece of Liz's artwork (at Oberlin?), but whoever it was sorry for forgetting who it was, and: Did the photos of Liz's charcoal drawing turn out ok ? (Or was it a painting ?) When can we see them ? Don ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 99 19:51:21 -0400 From: Meredith Robbins Subject: Re: Weston's Liz Phair song OK, I've never heard the Weston song in question, but doesn't it look like you could sing it to the tune of "Punk Rock Girl"? >I sure think we would make a real cool pair. >You could sing your songs, I could sit and stare >And fall in love, in love with Liz Phair. I mean, doesn't that just scream, "We'll travel round the world, just you and me, Punk Rock Girl"? Maybe I'm crazy, but I think Weston must be big Dead Milkmen fans (but then, who isn't?) Dum de dum, do I have anything else Liz-related to say? I would love to share the soundtrack to my adolescence (well, the first part of my adolescence, anyways), but I haven't decided if anyone would care yet. I'm not real wild about getting digests almost entirely made up of "personal top 10" lists or whatever, so I probably should go out of my way to avoid contributing to something I hate. Yeah. ObDeadMilkmenWish: I wish I had a bitchin' Camaro. Meredith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ "On rocky islands, gulls woke." --Esther Forbes, "Johnny Tremain" New at Netville: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:42:47 -0700 (PDT) From: sandra Subject: still thinking about my soundtrack RANDOM! Just sped through three digests and I should be preparing for a meeting but must respond to a couple of things ... go speed typer. whoever said Pearl Jam’s Ten was before middle school .... ACK! You guys are all so young ... I was listening to that constantly when it first came out, when my college bf and I would be lounging around on lazy afternoons in the dorms after skipping class ... we had more important things to do ... that’s the image that always comes to mind anyway ... when I think back ... so long ago. Speaking of thinking back, soundtrack to my life? Killer idea. But I’m stumped. It would have to be done in volumes, and Volumes I through IV would probably embarrass the bejesus out of me. Well, the embarrassing stuff would be the ‘adolescent’ part. I don’t think a cool song would show up till at least sophomore year in college ... but I’ll be thinkin on that. Good way to waste time in the workday. And hello? Whoever wrote about Joe Lies (When He Cries)? Is this a real song? All I know of this is from Lili Taylor singing it so beautifully in Say Anything (1988 Liz?) ... Was this song really recorded? Does anyone know what I am talking about? To you My So-Called-Lifers--I have every episode ever made on tape ... I play MSCL Trivia via email often ... in my life I am not only Angela, but sometimes I am Rayanne, and other times I am Patti (I love Graham--yes, I am showing my age [but only 28], but he is so darn cute, receding hairline and all), and sometimes, freakily, I am even Sharon. This is when I am most endearing. Ha ha. And to those who have sent me boots so far, you are angels. Mt. Holyoke, Phairplay, and Chicago were the soundtrack to my weekend. Anyone who will turn against Ani for marrying--gasp--a man is not worthy to be a fan of hers. She is a perfect model for sexual independence--gay, straight or bi. And that has *nothing* to do with her music, which is impeccable in a whole different way. aside to Jaime ... you won’t believe this, but the intern Jaime in my office was also named after Ms. Somers. Swear to God. oh, and Teddy? today they’re red. ha HA!! sandra _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:40:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine Lewis Subject: Ani's marriage For all those who are curious: Ani got married last summer. That's all I have to say. :) Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:53:09 EDT From: AMCFLND1@aol.com Subject: Liz concert on Thursday I'm going to be seeing Liz again on Thursday. Is anyone else going? (Besides Allison, I mean.) ~Sara ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:36:31 EDT From: QueenB880@aol.com Subject: soundtrack........ i typically don't write to this, but i am getting backed up and i was liking the question of a soundtrack of your high school yrs/life....tres cute. Here goes: 1. No Doubt-Sunday Morning 2. Ani Difranco-Buildings and Bridges 3. Liz Phair- either 6'1" or Fuck and Run (too accurate!) 4. Sarah McLachlan- Ice Cream 5. Juliana Hatfield- Universal Heartbeat 6. Queen- Days of our Lives 7. Lil' Kim- Big Momma Thang (sorry, out of context, but it reminds me of my sophmore/jr. years too much) 8. Ani- Not a Pretty Girl 9. Liz- Supernova or Crater Lake (Crater Lake is SO high school......... :) ) Ok that's all for now, that was fun. ~MeG~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:07:31 -0400 From: "Jaime" Subject: Ani~Liz~Joanna Kokosis >From: "M.L.Magdalene" >a fellow Ani fan refused to buy the album because he felt Ani had sold out and >was not putting as much into her music and she had before her marrige.(Which >i think is like SO unfair) But the album was already in >progress...January-ish would be my best bet. Okay ~ All this talk about Ani -- I love Ani, I think she's creative, a great poet/singer/songwriter, and she also makes you think. I mean, just like people were saying ("I thought Ani was gay?" "Ani got married?")--- This is the deal, Ani is bisexual--- this means she dates women and men. Just because she is bisexual does not mean she cannot marry a man, and still be bisexual. Please. And that's exactly the beauty of Ani~ she is really into -seeing the person- not the sex of a person. I think that is so pretty. Loving the person for who they are... You see if we were all so loving and open-- this world might be a nice place. But it isnt, and there will always be jerks and losers out there fucking it all up. So anyway- if you haven't heard Ani-- you must! She rocks. And even if you aren't into the whole bisexual/fem thing-- she still makes good points and paints beautiful stories. Liz. She rocks. Have you ever just gotten out of a hellish day at work (hmm, maybe the air cond. broke?) and you get into your car and you turn the key--- "Orange Blue Green and Pink-- I see you in everything" --WCSE fills the car and echoes out the windows... and you drive, accelerating to the music, and you sing so loud-- because hey-- you're out of work-- Liz is playing and there's no traffic--- you hit 70- and coast along... That was my day today- and I fulfilled my liz content requirement. Byt the way MrE... The MoistTowelette letter moved me. I thought I was the most pathetic girl of all-- Joanna Kokosis takes the cake. I can breathe easy now. ~Jaime* ~:~:~:~:~:~:~ "Always know sometimes think its me But you know I know when its a dream I think I know, I mean, oh yes, but its all wrong, That is I think I disagree..." ~J.Lennon -- Strawberry Fields Forever ~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:11:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Suzanne Walsh Subject: Soundtrack to my Life I like this soundtrack to life thread we got going here - especially cuz I actually like reading other people's. So I decided to include mine! 1. Any Day - Ani Difranco 2. Explain It To Me - Liz 3. 6'1" - Ms. Liz again 4. Raining in Baltimore - Counting Crows 5. People are Strange - The Doors 6. Unchained - Johnny Cash 7. Jack-ass - Beck 8. Stepping Stone - G. Love & Special Sauce(guilty pleasure ok?!?) 9. Me and Bobby McGee - Kris Kristofferson or Janis Joplin - I'll take either version 10. Funny How Time Slips Away - Willie Nelson this list includes heavy influence from my dad...hmmm...never thought I'd see that day... === The one and only, Suzanne Explain It To Me http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Hall/9429 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:44:23 EDT From: Danaldj@aol.com Subject: my so called life and shitloads of money hey you liz freaks! i have been out spending a wonderful weekend cruising around in Jaguars and blaring liz phair through those overpriced speakers. well, no i am not rich and do not own a Jaguar, but my boyfriend works for them and had one for the wknd which was awesome, i had just bought him EIG and we blared it as we drove around. my little sister forced me to listen to some crappy wallflowers album, oh, thank god........she took it out of the cd player.... ok, here goes my high school sndtk: 1. The Cure- Disintegration/wish and anything before that. 2. The Smiths- louder than Bombs/Rank/meat is Murder 3. The pixies-Everything from the Pixies 4. U2-Joshua tree, Boy, october, war, Achtung, Rattle and Hum, Unforgettable Fire 5. Depeche Mode- everything up to and including Violator 6. Jesus & Mary Chain- Automatic 7. Belly-Star 8. The breeders 9. Juliana hatfield & Lemonheads 10. Sonic Youth 11. Nine Inch Nails 12. Ned's Atomic Dustbin Ok, well I listened to a LOT of music in high school, mostly the cure, depeche mode, the smiths and U2, but as someone else said i often think of my life as an ongoing movie and since i listen to music non-stop it would be a very, very long soundtrack. and i was once told i, too, looked like angela chase (my hair was auburn at the time) but i was also told i looked jewish, isralei and turkish and am none of the above, so go figure! ok, there's liz to say should be in the list but isn't honestly cos i started listening right after i finished high school. shitloads of money is right!!!! $150 for a half hour!!!!!1 ok- gotta go , my friend petra is here and i am being rude and ignoring her to finish this , so g';bye, all dp from nj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:28:20 -0700 (PDT) From: raymond lew Subject: my so-called soundtrack okay, it's 9:15pm, i've got a couple of minutes until the knicks game is on...so what the hey--here's my soundtrack: how many tracks am i limited too? are these supposed to be from my adolescence (probably spellled that wrong) or songs that just kinda fit me? oh well...too late to be asking questions. 1. drain you - nirvana 2. animal girl - liz phair 3. hey joe - jimi hendrix 4. revolution 9 - the beatles (hee-hee...turn me on, dead man) 5. under my thumb - the rolling stones 6. sunshine of your love - cream 7. versechorusverse - nirvana 8. playing your song - hole 9. 6'1'' - liz phair 10. white rabbit - jefferson airplane 11. hey, come on - verbena 12. big long now - nirvana 13. i'll get you high - liz phair i'm sure i'll look at this list tomorrow morning and kick myself. does anyone else think that the middle part of "wasted" sounds like adam sandler's hanukkah song (or is it the other way around)? oh yeah, does anyone know a good place/website where i can buy movie scores? ...ray **************************************************************************** "I'm a wreck, I'm obsessed, I'm insane. Isn't that what you want me to say?" --Liz Phair the writings on the wall - http://www-scf.usc.edu/~rlew/ beginning to see the light - http://www-scf.usc.edu/~rlew/liz_phair/ **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V2 #166 ************************************