From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #165 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Monday, June 7 1999 Volume 02 : Number 165 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: SSD V2 #164, responding to members' posts [AngelLieb@aol.com] my life soundtrack [Nathan Carrera ] Re: support-system-digest V2 #164 [ROKHALID@vassar.edu] Bounced message [Jason Long ] Bounced message [Jason Long ] ramble, ramble, rambellll.... ["dana polachowski" ] Bounced message [Jason Long ] SOUNDtrack 2 LIFE [Juvenilia@aol.com] Bounced message [Jason Long ] Bounced message [Jason Long ] Bounced message [Jason Long ] Need permission from Ken Lee/Steve Kisko ["John A. Johnson" ] Re: support-system-digest V2 #164 ["keelyfish" ] NY! join us [MangoHula@aol.com] soundtrack of my life ["Jaime" ] some stuff and stuff ["Nicole W." ] Weston's Liz Phair song ["John A. Johnson" ] The Pink ["M.L.Magdalene" ] Ani ["M.L.Magdalene" ] start spreading the news...... [katieroper@juno.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 01:38:48 EDT From: AngelLieb@aol.com Subject: Re: SSD V2 #164, responding to members' posts Nicole asked: "Oh one thing....Spaceeggy... no make that two things: what were you talking about when you said you think of a purple and yellow polkka dotted dinosaur whom you call Spaceeggy??? You lost me there." Uhh..I said a yellow and orange polka dotted dalmatian called Spaceeggy. I was totally out of it at the time (my imagination), as I am now of course. Keep losing track of time all the time, getting a cloudy head, which doesn't make sense anyways. Must be under the influence of my Dual Theme hate. I *hate* that theme now! I'm still hoping that movie will brainwrap! Brainwrap dammit! Grrrrr! I want a movie clip to give out! Nicole also asked: "Is the plural of Monkey Monkeys or Monkies? It's "monkeys" isn't it?" It's monkeys, add an S to the end of the word if there's a vowel before it. Hmmmm... Oh yeah...as for my soundtrack, I meant to write in no random order except for what I put at number one, which is......lalala.. check digest #164. Anyhoo...forgot to add Real Love by John Lennon. I love his version a whole lot better before Sir Paul added more junk to it. Soo soo purdy! Just John and his piano. Sigh.... It's on his Anthology boxed set. Darrin talking about Austin Powers and who else? Ahhh! I can't wait to see it myself! Too bad the standee in the lobby is so frickin' huge! Oh well..not like I could take it home or anything.. And no, I'm not Mike Myers' niece or related to him! People think I am cuz of the same last name. blah blah blah.... All righty then! Ciao! Time to hit the sacks and be back at work in 8.5 hours! wah wah! Brainwrap dammit! KL ();) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 06:27:39 GMT From: Nathan Carrera Subject: my life soundtrack This was a great idea and thanks to U who started it!!!!! MY LIFE _______________________________________________________ 1) Mesmerizing 2) A Perfect World 3) My Beautiful Leah 4) Shameless 5) Icicle 6) Wants Deep 7) Sweet Religion 8) Birthday Cake 9) Rise and Shine 10) Loud and Clear 11) Furious Rose 12) Adia 13) Bitter 14) Junkie 15) All Mine 16) Heal 17) Hey 18) Elmo 19) Life Is Sweet 20) All Neon Like 21) Baby...One More Time j/k =) Well that is enough for now b/c I could seriously add more than that but oh well. I am so lucky b/c just 12 days apart from each other, I am going to see Ani D in Chicago on June 27 and Berkeley,CA on July 9. Is there ani fans that are going to these shows? well i'm boring you so bye may_queen _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 03:02:23 -0500 (EST) From: ROKHALID@vassar.edu Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #164 so, i really like this whole "soundtrack to high school" idea, even though it's not really liz-related (although i would assume most of us have a liz song or two on there)...but it's so fucking hard! does anybody else find narrowing down the list near-impossible, or am i just way to obsessive compulsive about stuff that doesn't actually matter anyway? tee hee. it's just that i've thought about this before (say, oh, every time i take the subway and am listening to my walkman) and therefore have a new one for each week of my life. but here goes nothing... "thank you" - ida (my favorite band ever - next to liz, o'course. everyone should check them out; email me if you want more info since they're kind of hard to find - cos i'm also willing to make tapes for people, okay, i'm rambling, back to this list...) joe lies (when he cries) - th bouncing souls hannah and gabi - the lemonheads prssure drop -toots and the maytals fuck and run, support, nashville, see the light - gee, i wonder who entire - the spinanes healthy body, sick mind - operation ivy the story of one party - retsin i guess that's about it, though i'm sure i'll get to bed now and think "shit, i forgot..." damn i wish i had $100 to go to this liz charity thing. unfortunately i have about two cents to my name after spending an obscene amount of money to take a math course at columbia...i'm paying to take math tests in the summer?! i just had my midterm, on my 4th class. it's just very bizarre. goodnight. b. jeeeeeeeez..not only did i not write out "support system" (no, there is no rare song liz song called "support"..), and make numerous typos, i also only used quotes around the ida song. arrrgggghhh i hate telnet cos now i can't make myself look consistent and like i can spell. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 03:23:43 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: "Ginz" Subject: Soundtrack to Adolescence Alice wrote: >you know, i was thinking about it the other night, and i realized that >"exile" was one of soundtracks to my adolescence (although i think i was >about eighteen when i bought it, but it was the summer before my freshman >year of college, so my adolescence was pretty much over anyway). did you guys >have a soundtrack to your adolescence? The Smiths: The Queen Is Dead was the soundtrack to my adolesence. I bought this album when I was 16 (6 years ago). Anyone who owned this album at 16 knows what I'm talking about. This album could change your life. Does anyone know of a Liz / Morrissey connection? I have a feeling Liz liked The Smiths.....but then again, maybe not. (any opinions on this?) Liz Dream: She played on Saturday Night Live a few weeks ago. I've seen that show a million times....funny, the set in my dream looked nothing like it does on TV. I Saw Beth Orton in Philly at TLA tonight (Friday). Simply amazing. Beth even signed my ticket after the show. She really is a sweet girl. Get out and see her before the tour ends...I think she even has a few Lilith dates. Otherwise, be sure to pick-up her new album: Central Reservation. Hope to see some of you in NYC next week....to see Liz of course, Ginz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 03:24:54 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: sarah williamson Subject: a brief glance into the mind of a certified lurker well it seemed that since so many others were coming out of the woodwork i might as well actually write something(i really hope this works and apoligize beforehand for if it doesn't) okay so this morning i has a liz dream, in the dream came home from school with my sister and was staying with us for the summer and was hanging out with me in my room singing along to 'divorce song'...then she started talking about losing her keys and i woke up all the way and it was actually my friend rachel who had stayed overnigt looking for her car keys b/c she had to get home. so there is my liz story, it was fun to share. as long as i'm here...someone asked why ani was such a "gay icon" even though she obviously isnt gay b/c she's married to a guy so here's my two cents: i've never read or heard ani say she is gay, she's bisexual and reagardless of the gender of the person she fell in love with, she has really good queer politics and is definitely queer in my book. i hope i didn't offend or bore or anything else anybody...i'm kinda antsy about posting, it's so much easier to lurk! about to hit send with a nervous grin, ~sarah ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:27:20 -0700 From: "dana polachowski" Subject: ramble, ramble, rambellll.... well, since it's been kind of a slow liz-news week (and because i'm stranded in my house), thought i'd just muse on the last post: > a mental soundtrack in my head...that said, i would say the songs most likely > to be on my soundtrack would be: > > "you are the everything"- rem. makes my eyes get soft. > "daydream believer"- monkees. childhood! sigh. > "son of a preacher man"- dusty springfield. groove time. wow. now *that* is a beauty set! > "shatter"- liz again. just lovely. makes me weep. to this day.... > now that i think about it, i don't remember much of high school. > me either. well, if i had to put together a list from high school, from the music at that time (eek!)...the highlight would be "you're all i've got tonite" by the cars. i remember hearing that whilst staring into my beer glass. or watching my friend(s) stumble around and fall to the floor. that pretty much sums it up. > 9. "Street Fighting Man" - Rolling Stones YOWW!!! rock on! > > i have to turn the ignition and then go out and hold a screwdriver to > > it to > > get the fucker to start [snip]. OUCH!! (snicker) whoa!...just the *placing* of that edit cracked me up!! > and let a couple of us youngin's in (hey, i'm 20 years old, what > difference is 9 months?... damn! i wanna be 20 years old and goin' to NYC....cool! >Coincidentally, I'm at a > website that has as a title of a page "gas-monkies-tacos-fonts" , and that > just doesn't look right. It's "monkeys" isn't it? > that doesn't *sound* right, either (HAAA!!). wow! what a combo...it's so deliciously wacky it must be true! what *is* it?? dp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 03:26:21 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: LULU428@aol.com Subject: Fwd: support-system-digest V2 #161 In a message dated 6/3/99 1:19:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org writes: << You are kidding! I had no idea anyone even bought this music. The last I read about Kelley Deal was that she was starting a band with, of all people, metal-pop prettyboy Sebastian Bach of Skid Row--called The Last Hard Men. Doesn't that sound like I made it up? I didn't! That *was* two years ago though... >> I heard this too! did it ever happen? I used to LOVE sebastian bach- I am from NJ, I am allowed to love the 80's hair bands, they were all from my town or towns nearby! WNEW did a whole 80's weekend last weekend and my sister and I were in heaven, they played all our old favorites- bonjovi, poison, etc... my computer is still broken so I have really not been able to check my email much, I am using my neighbors computer. I didnt read a bunch of digests after the one I posted asking about the tori shows. is that how the whole tori thread started? I didnt mean it, I swear. well, only 14 more days of school, yay! teachers have the life... Lani ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 03:27:25 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: "Ginz" Subject: Liz Phair in NYC Hi, Here's a little more information about the benefit show in NYC. "Business attire" is suggested. Jacket and tie for men..... The event starts at 8:00 pm. Liz's performance is scheduled for approx. 10 pm. Open bar.....which brings up the 21 and-over issue discussed in previous posts. In trying to get a little more info about what sort of event this will be, I asked what age groups are expected. I was informed that the event is targeting 20-30 year-olds. Ok, sounds good. But the $100 price tag seems a bit high for that age group. Will these people be fans of Liz Phair....of DJ Sky? We'll just have to see. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to this event. I was just graduated from Penn State and it's time to have my last bit of fun. If anyone from the Philadelphia area is thinking about going, send me some email...... ginz@psu.edu Ginz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 04:24:36 EDT From: Juvenilia@aol.com Subject: SOUNDtrack 2 LIFE Hello people..... Just thought I'd actually post what my life's soundtrack would consist of..., although to many of you it will mean nothing of significance. 01. Liz Phair - "Nashville" 02. Heather Nova - "Sugar" 03. Eurythmics - "Love Is A Stranger" 04. Sinead O'Connor - "Black Boys On Moped" 05. Sam Phillips - "Cruel Inventions" 06. Tori Amos - "Icicle" 07. Aimee Mann - "4th Of July" 08. Ani DiFranco - "Out Of Habit" 09. Veda Hille - "26 Years" 10. Paula Cole - "Bethlehem" 11. Sinead Lohan - "Diving To Be Deeper" 12. Heather Nova - "I'm Alive" Doesn't YOUR life feel more complete now that you know this? :-) Sometimes, Robbie "...sending three bucks to a comic book" McCown The Slick Divide - a liz phair page http://valmccown.com/lizphair.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 04:31:58 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: "Terra Alyce Thibault" Subject: songs i would love to see liz cover "who will sayeeave your soul?"---JEWEL "hands"---JEWEL "baby one more time"---BRITANY SPEARS "foolish games"---JEWEL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 04:32:58 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: Mariam Hamou Subject: Weston Hey everyone, I haven't posted forever!!! Anyhow, I found this song called Liz Phair by a band called Weston. If you want to take a listen to it the site is http://www.mp3.com/artists/11/weston.html . I don't know if anyone has mentioned it before on this list. It's a pretty good song and they play chopsticks at the end, which I thought was pretty cool. Take care. Mariam ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 04:35:31 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: "Edward Dodge" Subject: whatser name current spin...yeah...the one with axl on the cover (and by all means check out the axl '98 mug shot on page 82)...and yeah we need axl in ninety-nine for the same reason we needed nirvana in 91...someone has got to put a bullet in the head of whateverthehellisgoingon with the music 'seen' (and not heard...please) death to all five member male groups comprised of geeky fn toads of which the only instrument they have ever held is between their legs!! so, current spin, devoid of liz p content and most anything of any interest with the exception of the following blurb, the mindless drivel of one obsessed with the need, the hunger, the all consuming and all together irrational compulsion to have and to hold all things Moistette, not unlike (in some obscure einsteinium way) some with an all consuming and all together irrational disdain for all things Moistette...where was i...relativity...mr. peabody...ok...for the above mentioned later group of, i present in all its glory, the following composition by the deknowned joanna kokosis (who incidentally is not from the left coast) as presented to the editor of spin gagizine, the place to look when you really don't want to find anything. friends, because i care, i present you with the uninspired blathering of ms kokosis: "Thanks for putting Alanis Morissette on the cover. She is the best. I am her No. 1 fan and always will be. U should put her on every cover. i love reading about her and try to get every single detail on her. U should make a whole magazine on her. She totally rules." Joanna Kokosis Whitestone, New York and so next time you feel the urge to ground madam moistette into something uninvited, feel free to mirror yourself with ms kokosis...extremes are much closer than they are often thought to be. its opening time down on fascination street, MrE ~~ ____________________________________________________________ "But not me baby, I'm too precious...fuck off!" """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 08:32:01 -0400 From: "John A. Johnson" Subject: Need permission from Ken Lee/Steve Kisko Sorry to impose upon the whole list. I never got a reply to the following personal email. If Ken or Steve could please contact me, I would be most grateful... >Ken, I'm looking for permission to include three of Steve Kisko's photos in >my review of Liz Phair's concert at the Crowbar: >http://drj.virtualave.net/other/audio/lizatcrowbar.html > >I am new to the support system mailing list, so I don't know who Steve is or >how to contact him for permission. I would of course give him the photo >credit and you credit for first posting the photographs. You can have a look >at the intended layout in the attached HTML file + jpgs. [HTML file w/ proposed photos had been included as email attachment] > >Could you let me know if my using the pictures would be okay or let me know >how to contact Steve for permission? >Thanks, >John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 08:40:50 -0500 From: "keelyfish" Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #164 Soundtrack of my life : ) This is fun : ) 1. Daddy- Jewel 2. Freak of Nature- Liz Phair 3. There's Always Tomorrow- Red Red Meat 4. Magnet's Coil- Sebadoh 5. Dying Proof- Juliana Hatfield 6. Girl With the Strawberry Hair- Talulah Gosh 7. Here Comes Your Man- Pixies 8. An Awful Mess- Softies 9. Sorry Again- Velocity Girl 10. I love Rock and Roll- Joan Jett and the B'hearts Cheers!! keely ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:21:57 EDT From: MangoHula@aol.com Subject: NY! join us In a message dated 6/6/1999 1:17:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org writes: << is/was the nyc phfest today saturday or june 12 saturday? i'm confused. >> it's saturday june 12. . . . . . so you didn't miss it! We are getting lots of feedback and are figuring out plans. Please come if you can/will be in the area of NYC this coming wknd!! it'll be fun :-), money back guarantee......... email me (mangohula@aol.com or katieroper@juno.com) and we'll try to give you what details we have!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sooooooooo excited to get out of town, see my old roommate, and meet cool people!!!!!!!!!!! woo-hoo..........."i said woo-hoo" cheers, ~~~~~~lynda<<<<------------who is off to go car shopping.........yikes!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:21:44 -0400 From: "Jaime" Subject: soundtrack of my life Soundtrack of my adolescence thru college: (no particular order) Liz Phair--Whip Smart Liz Phair--Juvenilia Liz Phair--Exile In Guyville Steely Dan--Aja Pearl Jam--Ten Nirvana--Nevermind Hole--Live Through This The Beatles--Rubber Soul The Beatles--Magical Mystery Tour The Velvet Underground & Nico Elvis Costello--Brutal Youth The "Heavy" soundtrack Beck--Mellow Gold Smashing Pumpkins--Siamese Dream Freedy Johnston--Perfect World Pain--Wonderful Beef Bjork--Debut The Violent Femmes--Greatest Hits Bob Dylan -- Greatest hits Lemonheads--Into Your Arms (?) The Cure--Disingration (sp?) Ani Difranco--Little Plastic Castles That about covers it. I skipped Middle School, sparing everyone from Warrant and New Kids on the Block, I hoped I got all the album names right... Any news on who is playing Woodstock... I have heard a few... Liz really needs to jump on that one... What a way to win new fans. JANET-- Are we still trading? I haven't heard from you-- email me. Anyway~That's all I had to say ~Jaime* -<<>>-<<>>-<<>>-<<>>-<<>>-<<>>- "I only get high about twice a day, It helps to keep my blues away..." --Bran Van 3000 -<<>>- "Downer Surrealism." - --Frank Zappa, on Steely Dan - -<<>>-<<>>-<<>>-<<>>-<<>>-<<>>- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:21:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nicole W." Subject: some stuff and stuff >As for albums of my adolescence, they would have to >be Nirvana's Nevermind and Pearl Jam's Ten. The two albums >I listened to constantly before I hit middle school. You were an adolexcent before you hit middle school? That must mean you repeated alot of grades. Well you know... okay. To girl who said she was angela chase... NO! I have dibs on that! All through 10th and even 11th grade, people would constantly stop me and say "You know who you remind me of? That girl from "My So-Called Life." I loved it, cuz that was (is?) my FAVORITE show, and I LOVED claire danes. Okay note to readers: do not see You've Got Mail if you haven't already. I was trying to watch that last night at my... umm... this guy's house, and it was the lamest shit I've ever seen! I lost allr espect for tom hanks, i swear. Ick. Does anyone know when they will air the season finale of buffy that they pre empted? Okay this is all unrelated to liz, so whatever. Wow I can't beleive some people are paying $150 to see liz, ideally. That's a umm... shitload of $$. Later, Nicole ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 18:29:41 -0400 From: "John A. Johnson" Subject: Weston's Liz Phair song On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 16:13:32 +1000 "Chris Whitfield" said: >Valerie wrote: >> >>Has anyone heard of a song called" Liz Phair" by a band called Weston? >Weston are on Rubber Records I think. You can download that track for free >from www.mp3.com though I've never been so inclined. I did download the song and found it to be a cute, likeable tribute. Rubber Records describes Weston's style as punk pop, similar to Hüsker Dü. Maybe, but to me, portions of "Liz Phair" were melodically reminiscent of XTC. The band has a website at http://www.skapunx.net , but this site is apparently notorious for being down. I was never able to connect. I transcribed the lyrics from the mp3 as best I could, 'though I'm not sure about the Frank Wright line. (Wright is an avant garde jazz sax player and I don't know why Liz would be interested in him.) But I am sure that a lot of these lines are things that people on this list have said or would say. - -- John - --------------- "Don't take yourself too seriously/There are precious few things worth hating nowadays/And none of them is me." -- Todd Rundgren "Liz Phair" from Weston's "Return to Mono" on Rubber Records [Song begins with scratching like the beginning of a song on an old vinyl LP] I heard your song on the radio I tried to sing along, but I didn't know Half of the words. How does it go? I sure think we would make a real cool pair. You could sing your songs, I could sit and stare And fall in love, in love with Liz Phair. You sang a song with Ben Lee. How about singing with me? You look real pretty in your video And you rock better songs than anyone I know. Me and you should go to the Frank Wright show. Or maybe I could just meet you there I'm getting sort of cool, but mostly I'm a square. I'd rather be around, around you, Liz Phair. I don't want nothing physical But I sure think you're cool. You sang a song with Ben Lee. How about singing with me? Your record's always in my stereo I never turn it off, I never play it low. You're the greatest thing in rock 'n roll. I sure think we would make a real cool pair You could sing your songs, I could sit and stare And dream about you, and dream about Liz Phair. And dream about Liz Phair And dream about Liz Phair And dream about Liz Phair [ends with single piano carelessly playing Chopsticks (the original, not Liz's song)] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 16:40:25 PDT From: "M.L.Magdalene" Subject: The Pink the album is called "into the pink" .(are >they ripping off tori?) Well, since Tori was UNDER it, and they are INTO it..i don't think it would HAVE to qualify as ripping her off. I just don't know why in a world of any color they have chosen pink*s* M _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 16:51:11 PDT From: "M.L.Magdalene" Subject: Ani >when did ani difranco get married??? It was late last year or early this year. Shit i can't quite remember, it was before "Up up up up up up" came out, and i only remember that because a fellow Ani fan refused to buy the album because he felt Ani had sold out and was not putting as much into her music and she had before her marrige.(Which i think is like SO unfair) But the album was already in progress...January-ish would be my best bet. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:58:56 -0400 From: katieroper@juno.com Subject: start spreading the news...... has anyone ever read the children's book, *Alexander's terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day*??? if so, you have some idea of how my day at work went..... anyhoo.....i just wanted to send out the invite, once again, for the last-minute-impromptu-come-on-it'll-be-fun, new york phest!!!!!! lynda and i are planning on getting everyone together this saturday night. please write either one of us (mangohula@aol.com, katieroper@juno.com) if you're interested. bye!! b-day katie ............who despite having a psycho hose beast for a manager is still happy cause she is seeing mercrury rev, bf5, and g.love!!!! oh yeah....and spending three whole days in nEw YoRk!!! ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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