From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #161 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Thursday, June 3 1999 Volume 02 : Number 161 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: support-system-digest V2 #160 [Talula9695@aol.com] 8 Tracks rule! (Well, they did at least) [Mike Connolly ] did jesus ever get an erection? [katieroper@juno.com] (no subject) [Nach1120@aol.com] wendy, lisa, blondie, alanis, mary, kelley, and ani [sandra ] t-shirt clarifications! =P ["Jaime" ] Actual Liz stuff [Matt Schulz ] Information Session ["Joseph H. Weber" ] i know it's not easy [raymond lew ] Hehe ["Joseph H. Weber" ] Looking for..... ["Justin C" ] Will someone please adopt me? [DaisyFoo14@aol.com] wcse demo's ["overpavement" ] some things ["Nicole W." ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 04:16:03 EDT From: Talula9695@aol.com Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #160 If Liz toured with Tori I don't think the public would be able to handle it; that would be much too cool and make me much too happy, which never happens. But then I could say I saw it all. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 05:28:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Connolly Subject: 8 Tracks rule! (Well, they did at least) > From: "Mark Schmidt" > ... usually, your favorite > one would be half on one track, and half on the > next. So "Devil Went Down > to Georgia" is happily playing along on track three, > and then you get to the > beginning/end of the loop, and "CLUNK!" over to > track 4 we go to finish the > song, with only a slight pause in the middle. Or, it would just fade down, go CHA CHUNK as it switched to the next track, then fade up. To this day, when I hear Meat Loaf's "Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad," I still in my mind hear the fade and chunk. And don't forget about the companion to car 8-Track players - The FM Converter! Also, a happy thanks to Steve (MLevine171@aol.com ) for his restrained response to something I said that offended him. What a gentleman he is. NP: Fleming & John, _The Way We Are_ === Mikey C Va Beach "It's time to face what you most fear Right Guard will not help you here Brace yourself, my dear..." - - Jello Biafra "Holiday In Cambodia" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:08:07 -0500 From: "keelyfish" Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #160 >>A 4-track is what you hear about because it's practically dirt cheap, HAHAHA!! I'd like to be wealthy enough where a couple hundred dollars is "dirt cheap." Being a 4track recording maniac, I'd like to tell you that they, even the used ones you buy at pawn shops, are generally around $200 for a decent one. keely ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:19:05 -0400 From: katieroper@juno.com Subject: did jesus ever get an erection? hi everyone!! it's b-day katie. i haven't been able to post in forever due to my new work hours and going away with the fam for a week--> i'm so behind on digests!! but i've quickly compiled some posts i'd like to respond to: spaceeggy katie wrote: brian asked (and not all the pics made it to the website--there's also this great one of him and identical 40 yr. old twins) the question: 'did jesus ever get an erection?' all the while, completely straight faced and holding a sign (left by the earlier encountered jesus pals) that read: 'jesus is all that!' you'd be a amazed at how tolerant some people are. top ten phfest quotes: 1. where's becky and her pig heads? 2. he's a health teacher, i'm a doctor--we've seen tits. 3. let's get ready to rumble!! 4. we feel sorry for the wall. 5. who do we call for beer? 6. kidnap a small child. 7. hey, i'm gonna hit this guy with an ice cube--watch!!! 8. pee behind a tree. 9. go kiss pinhead. 10. jesus is all that!!!!!!!!!! and all this was BEFORE the dubliner pub..... one word: platysma Jeff wrote: (and thanks jeff for the flat!! i finally got it!) this is hilarious!!! reminds me of these billboards in baltimore that quote god. for example: "We Need To Talk." -God M.L. Magdalene wrote: does everything taste like blood???? i remember having my wisdom teeth pulled and no matter what i ate or drank it was mixed with all the blood on my mouth...it was disgusting!! i still can't drink chocolate milk to this day.......the assoc. is too strong. Nathan wrote: ME! ME! Ani is coming to wolf trap (where i work) on the 14th....i am so stoked!! the coolest part is hangin' out on the lawn listening to sound check. so what's going on with chicago??? anyone? anyone? bueller? i would love to go...i have actually taken the days off from work...it's just my financial situation that's killing me. (reckless driving ticket--hi tad.) take care everyone!! peace, love, and bananas katie "i found religion in the greeting card aisle. now i know Hallmark was right." - -ANI D. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:29:56 EDT From: Nach1120@aol.com Subject: (no subject) this goes along with the looks debate but has no lix content. on the message boards for the local radio station (q101) they are having an argument one who is better looking: courtney love or shirley manson. a few guys made crude comments, but then someone piped up and mentioned that looks have nothing to do with good music. it was just odd. the very same discussion was going on in two places in my life. next, is their any word on chicago liz phest? i would be happy to help out in any way, since i am unemployed and am looking for something to do with my time. christine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:18:00 -0700 (PDT) From: sandra Subject: wendy, lisa, blondie, alanis, mary, kelley, and ani > Strong vocals, the band was > tight (Wendy & Lisa were quite a excellent > addition). As in Prince's Wendy and Lisa? circa Purple Rain? oh, to be 14 again, wearing leg warmers, crimping my hair, writing notes that we folded up into those triangles ... (80s emailing?? -- or instant messaging) btw ... If ANYONE has a chance to see Blondie on this current tour, DO SO. She *so* trounces Courtney and Madonna. [flaming me will damage your karma ... : ) ] She switched from disco diva wanna-be to > Angry Young Woman for her third, _Jagged Little > Pill_, > and sold over 20 million copies. sorry, man. give the girl some credit, won't you? How did *you* feel when you were 16? What if you had to be held responsible for everything you said and did back then? Hello, *I* was a complete *fake* in high school--because I had no idea who I was or what I wanted, and I cared far more about pleasing others than pleasing myself (which is what Alanis did professionally, pretty much). Ten years later I can say this. It's called growth, which is pretty much why we're here on this damn planet, IMHO. Also IMHO, You Oughta Know is an *anthem*. Adored it since the first moment I heard it. Yeah, it's annoying that she's so freaking popular, and I'm pretty much done with being a big fan of hers, but I still respect her. She's written a couple of huge duds (Ironic comes to mind) but also a couple of real winners, in my opinion, on Jagged Little Pill--like Not the Doctor (xcept the chorus) and All I Really Want. > > Helium sucks live????? I *never* heard that one > before. I saw them nearly > ten times live and not once did I hear anyone > boo-ing them and not shouting > for an encore. I could be wrong, but isn't Mary Timony in Helium? I saw her open for Versus and my friend was like: who is that suicidal chick with no personality pretending to play guitar on stage? I had to admit she had a point ... > > NP: The KElley DEaL 6000- go to the sugar altar You are kidding! I had no idea anyone even bought this music. The last I read about Kelley Deal was that she was starting a band with, of all people, metal-pop prettyboy Sebastian Bach of Skid Row--called The Last Hard Men. Doesn't that sound like I made it up? I didn't! That *was* two years ago though... > > tori amos and ani difranco suck. that's all. um, leave Ani alone please. Oh! Liz content! I have been more into Ani for longer than I've been into Liz, but I've always considered Liz 'the straight girl's Ani.' Well, at least when it comes to relationshippy things. > > Am I the only person on this list of lovers of all > tunes esoteric who will > *admit* to being a sucker for this badly written, > overplayed, unoriginal pop > song? Because I am. A sucker, I mean. aw, shoot. I gotta agree. But don't tell my friends. sandra _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:32:19 -0700 (PDT) From: sandra Subject: addendum OK, so I got 2 digests today, and responded to the first one, now I have to type again ... > > ND: 4/23/99 mt. holyoke for sandra THANKS THANKS THANKS! you rock. Also, to Steve RE: Alanis, thanks for all the info. You said it better than I did. again, scrambling to get back to work, sandra _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:54:10 -0400 From: "Jaime" Subject: t-shirt clarifications! =P Okay, alot of people have written to me asking about the t-shirts. Let me clarify for everyone. These are not concert t-shirts. I making them myself. Last summer I took a plain white t-shirt and painted the quote: "Fire up the batmobile, "cause I've got to get out of here..." --Liz Phair So this summer I decided it would be fun and nice to make t-shirts for anyone who wanted one. You can have any quote you want, and the shirt come out nice -- and they are washable too. They are under $10. I'm not making profit of this-- if I do, it probably wouldn't be more than pennies. I figured low. I am also taking trades-- such as taped shows, rare songs etc. So if you would like one, email me,( jaime227@exploremaine.com ) and I'll email you a letter with sizes, cost and my address, then you can just mail me either the money or a trade, and then I'll make your shirt and mail it for you. Okay? I hope this clears up everything and answers questions for people. If it doesnt email me or catch me on AOL IM --- I'm "gunshygirl" -- I'll try to answer questions for you. *liz content-- So did anyone ever figure out who's eye is on the wcse cd behind the white plastic ??? ~Jaime* - -<<>>-<<>>-<<>>-<<>>-<<>>-<<>>- "I only get high about twice a day, It helps to keep my blues away..." --Bran Van 3000 -<<>>- "Downer Surrealism." - --Frank Zap, on Steely Dan "I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed" --SmashMouth - -<<>>-<<>>-<<>>-<<>>-<<>>-<<>>- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:51:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Schulz Subject: Actual Liz stuff Well, I know that people will be disappointed that there's nothing in this e-mail about Built to Spill, Jewel, Alanis Morrisette or Tori Amos, but I thought I'd send it anyway. Songs I'd like to see Liz cover: So. Central Rain, REM Skyway, the Replacements And maybe one of Springsteen's greats like Hungry Heart or Atlantic City Anyway, just my two cents for what they're worth. Matt Schulz Editor, The Glory of Liz Phair http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Frontrow/5064 http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/thegloryoflizphair _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 19:23:43 -0500 From: "Joseph H. Weber" Subject: Information Session This is in reply to Mikey C: Just some info for you to ruminate on. You commented on Alanis by stating that she was similar in the popular arena to the Back Street Boys. Obviously, musically this is not the case. However, quite interestingly, you stated that Tori Amos didn't have a musical change like Alanis. Check out Why Tori Kant Read. You'll find out that she definitely went for a more pop/hard rock sound before she became the Tori that we all know today. Now I am not bashing Tori or Alanis, I love them both, and I do respect your opinion. Just thought you might want some more info. Later all. Joey np: Bob Marley: "Kaya" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:30:25 -0700 (PDT) From: raymond lew Subject: i know it's not easy okay, i promised myself that i would either tab a song or write a song every day for the rest of the summer (heh-heh...yeah, i got a pretty good laugh out of that too). anyways, i guess i could stick with it for at least a week or so, so i've posted tab for fantasize on my website. for some reason i've been feeling really guilty about posting tab--kinda like i'm revealing secrets or something. i know that sounds really weird, but that's just the kind of person you're dealing with. some random notes and responses: whoops! liz didn't play the solo to supernova, so i didn't tab it. not like i could've, anyways. nicole, i hear blue blonde too! broom blonde just doesn't flow as well--it's kinda harsh on the tongue. DC Phest inquiry people--where were you a couple of weeks ago? Not in DC, obviously. =[ katie...manuals are for whimps! right on! ...ray NP: cream, the very best of cream **************************************************************************** "I'm a wreck, I'm obsessed, I'm insane. Isn't that what you want me to say?" --Liz Phair the writings on the wall - http://www-scf.usc.edu/~rlew/ beginning to see the light - http://www-scf.usc.edu/~rlew/liz_phair/ **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 19:45:46 -0500 From: "Joseph H. Weber" Subject: Hehe Hey there all: Some good words Steve. My Why Tori Kant Read post came before I read yours. Sorry about the repeat peoples. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:10:08 -0400 From: "Justin C" Subject: Looking for..... GirlySounds.... Lounge Ax.... Providence 5/02/99... (or anything you have really...) on CD (preferably). I have a Liz live mix on CD to trade, all live from 7 different shows. It's called "Phairplay". Includes Ghost Story, Conversation between 2 Bouncers, Firewalker, and Don't Apologize. Send me an Email, and I'll send you the track list. See ya... **Justin "You try to give some of yourself, They'll never receive it anyway... " - Machinery Hall ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:40:19 EDT From: DaisyFoo14@aol.com Subject: Will someone please adopt me? Hey guys, I just found out some groovy info........Liz will be performing at some benefit in NYC on June 10 for an org called Sanctuary for Families. The tix cost $100 before, $120 at the door, and include dinner, open bar, dancing, and LIZ!!!!!!!!!! I convinced my parents to let me go, and my friend can go, and my dad called for info (confirmation of Liz so I could give you guys accurate info, how dressy, etc.) but since it's an open bar, I can't go w/out a parent. Well, that night is my parents' anniversary, so "there's no way in hell" they can go w/ me, and my friend's parents won't go. So, I know there are a bunch of wonderful NY ppl out there over 21 who would be willing to go and act as my surrogate parent for the night to make sure I don't go lush at the bar w/ my friend Rachel (not that we would............). We'll be good, we promise, so no need to worry about liability crap. I MUST go to this, it'll be my sophomore "graduation" gift since my parents are drawing blanks for gift ideas and b/c this means so much to me, and my dad can't think of anyone else to go and I don't know anyone of age who looks remotely like me. (For some reason, the college jrs and srs my brother knows aren't white! Like, I understand why, but......you know what I mean!) Anyway, I'm usually more articulate in my posts (ok....so I don't really post and being articulate is a fantasy), but I'm exhausted and really antsy. SO, if you would be willing to meet me and my friend in front of the place (the Altman building.......I don't have the addy right here) and pretend to be my mother, father, aunt, uncle, WHATEVER and you can prove you're over 21, I will love you forever. Plus you'll be seeing Liz! What better deal can you get than that? Liz, two annoying (ummmmm.......of course we're not irritating) 16 year olds, 1 who's never heard Liz (Rachel), a damn open bar that causes trouble........great! (Well, I guess SOME of you appreciate the bar....I hate that thing! It's keeping me from going until one of you kind souls reaches out to sponsor a child...me!) Anyway, it should be tres groovy and it would make my year or even lifetime to meet Liz.........please help make my wish come true! You know you want to! E-mail me offlist to volunteer to be my mommy or something, k? Gracias!!!!! Anyone else, e-mail me anyway so I can boost my confidence and also so mayhaps we can all meet at this thing! (Granted I get a new parent.........) I brought you this info......so love me! Adopt me! No diaper-changing involved! Guaranteed! - --Alli, who's reallyreallyreallyreally tired and worried about some crappy presentations tomorrow and upset she may not see Liz............so just take her into your family. One watering a day is all she asks. ch-ch-ch-CHIA!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:47:43 -0400 From: "overpavement" Subject: wcse demo's sorry to bug the whole list with this, but i saw it mentioned on the alt.fan... board, only there were no details. if someone has any information on how i can acquire a copy of the wcse demo's, could you please email me directly? i'm willing to pay my share, but haven't been on the mailing list long enough to have the details about who's offering them, what i need to pay to defray the original costs or what the CD-R costs are, etc. thanks. o p ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:58:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nicole W." Subject: some things >(Wendy & Lisa were quite a excellent addition) Aren't Wendy and Lisa the chicks who used to be with Prince? What are htey doing with Sheryl Crow? If that's not the name of hte chicks who were with Princ,e what ARE their names? And didn't one of them become really religious? So why is she back in that devil's music (rock n' roll)? >well gotta go so bye bye > > may_queen Man everyone want s to be a may queen. Okay if people didn't read my two posts in digest 159, READ THEM, and respond. I forget what I wrote, but i think I had questions and stuff. So like... I'm workin at Toys R Us til I leave for london, and there is this one thing I HAVE to buy. It's this glow in the dark... wait i think i already discussed this. I guess I'm just a little overexcited. Yeah. Later, Nicole, who missed yeat a nother givewaway on this damned list, but it's okay cuz I have one o fthose stickers (thanks katie b) and it's on my car. ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V2 #161 ************************************