From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #142 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Sunday, May 16 1999 Volume 02 : Number 142 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: the water bottle [Antony Yen ] taking Liz's water bottle....I'm Guilty. ["michael webster" ] lo-fi whipsmart? [Kaufmann@IPFW.EDU (Kaufmann,Mike)] huh? ["Nicole W." ] Hi Tiff~ebay* ["Jaime" ] several. . . [Exile217@aol.com] PhairitiesII, Raymond, West54th, copies [JLD4125269@aol.com] random notes [raymond lew ] Firewalker lyrics and a try for Don't Apologize [AngelLieb@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 02:22:32 -0400 From: Antony Yen Subject: Re: the water bottle > > what ginz wrote: > cinco de mayo show. obsessive? maybe. out of line? no.> i snagged the second to the last water bottle of that tour...sure my friends though i was sick, but who gives a shit! its liz's water bottle!!!! > < i think that any of us would love to have a pick, or a > drumstick, or even a water bottle. believe me, i don't worship this > empty plastic container. it is simply a reminder of that special > night....when liz visited us penn staters and stole our hearts.> amen brotha...WE ARE......PENN STATE!!!! yen > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 00:07:10 PDT From: "michael webster" Subject: taking Liz's water bottle....I'm Guilty. Hey group, I couldn't help but help over hearing the raging debate over taking Liz's water bottle. I must come forward and confess that i am guilty of these atrocities. At the 9:30 club show there was a bottle that Liz had drank half of. After she left the stage my friend told me to grab the bottle that was sitting on the stage right next to me. So i quickly "yoinked" the bottle. I ended up giving the bottle to my friend, even though he is not nearly the Liz fan i am, who seemed to be much more excited about the acquisition of the bottle then i was. A little to excited. On the ride home we each took a swig of the water and sealed it back up never to be opened again. I thought it was a neat little ceremony to cap off what was one of the greatest concerts i've ever seen. I see nothing wrong with it. Is there anything wrong with it? Well i'm sure if there is you guys will let me know. On an un-liz related note. Thanx to everyone who responded to my Sleater-Kinney post. I ended up buying "The Hot Rock" and i love it. Also on another un-liz related post(sorry, i know for every one time i post about Liz i tack on two un-liz related posts but bare with me.) For anyone in the DC area. Beth Orton is playing the 9:30 club June 2nd for just 99 cents. This is a must see. Even if you've'e never heard of Beth Orton, Go!!!! you will not be disappointed. Thats all for now, Later Mike _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 06:43:02 PDT From: "Theresa dela Vega" Subject: gifts from liz All this memorabilia (odds and ends- picks, drum stick, water bottles) stuff is kinda funny. At the loyola show after I got to sing flower with liz, I gave her a hug and she gave me a polaroid picture of the crowd (as a souveneir she said). It was so cute how she was taking pictures of us. Just thought I would share my story. "Whatever happened to a boyfriend..." - -Liz Phair ~Theresa _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 08:49:35 -0500 From: Kaufmann@IPFW.EDU (Kaufmann,Mike) Subject: lo-fi whipsmart? I think Chrissy Hynde is great but I'm not sure she's got the wrong album. Exile sounds much more like what she describes here as Whipsmart's (to my ears) much more "produced" sound. Jacqueline wrote: about chrissy hynde saying of whipsmart "It has this very lo-fi sound which is music to my ears. It's like when you sit on the bed playing an electric guitar but it's not plugged in, and the neck keeps scraping against the headboard." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 16:57:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nicole W." Subject: huh? I'm really confused. I think I mist have missed a digest, but all recent digests are in my mailbox. But I just read #141 and there is all this stuff people are responding to athat I've never seen before. I guess I'll have to go back over the digests. I know there was one I read when I was stoned, but I thought I went back over and read it when I wasn't. yeah I was stoned. Sort of. ASIDE- Sometimes I like living in a house (I'm home now, not at school) with people that are a bit extravagent and spoiled. In this room, which is a tiny room with a computer, a wall with shelves that hold our elementary and middle school art (and something I made for geometry in 9th grade, as well as something i made for english in 11th), a closet that holds family photos, and my sister's old whatchamacallit? it's a piece of furniture that holds stuff. Not an armoire, per se, but a free standing thing with doors that open and hten there are drawers and shelves... anyway in this tiny room, we now have a cable tv. and a boom box that has two tape decks and a cd player. These are recent additions-- added this year. See, my parents are all into the ocmputer now, so they need to be able to do everythin at once. Watch 20/20, check stocks, etc. I don't know whose idea the boom box was. I suppose my little sister's. Since my brother and I are at school, she's an only child, so maybe she' sextra spoiled. I dunno. Anyway, so I have like evry media at my fingertips in here. it's great!!! I'm listening to a tape of Mt Holyoke and writing this at the same time. Last night I was watchin x files reruns and using hte computer, although that didn't work out as well, because I couldn't concentrate on the tv. ANYWAY... yeah the water bottle thing. Power to you... didn't look at your name... who threw away the bFF water bottle! Man I missed them play at my school because I ... well two reasons, the main one being htat I had to run and catch a subway to catch a greyhound to see liz after my "friend" turned into a cunt and i decided to not get a ride from her to the show (part fo the deal was i'd buy her a tciket, and she wasn't worth it. Haven't talked to her since). Anyway, i dno't know htem too well but i wanted to see them. >From: "john c" >Subject: and the 5 are The 5 what? this is one of the thing si'm confused about. Okay I think by now no on eis readin mypost anymore. Let me say this: I'm home now, I can only check my e-mail like once a day, so i won't post as frequently. Also I'll be gone from Tomorrow morning through Tues. night, so don't miss me too much. Also more type os cuz i insist on usin this telnet application from here, which means that the cursor moves super slow, so i don't catch typoe-os quick enough to go back and delete them, and the mouse doesn't work in this program, so it's too big a hassle to correct mistakes. oh hte 6 okay this scren is frozen. okay now it's unfrozen. the 6'1" thing... liz has been sayin "6 FOOT one" leately. Later (see you in a few days), Nicole ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:35:27 -0400 From: "Jaime" Subject: Hi Tiff~ebay* >Six-Speaking of radio, my show (Radio Porn) is on Wednesday nights from >7-9 on Wpts, 92.1 Pittsburgh. I can also be heard on real audio. Just go >to www.wpts.pitt.edu and give a listen. I play liz... >Well, I think that's enough rambling on my part. >Tiffinatrix, host of Radio Porn I'll have to do that. Nice to see a post from Tiffany W! Now, I am going to e-bay to see if I can find me an old piece of Liz's chewing gum! Later~ ~Jaime* "Been thinking alot today..." ~BF5 <<>><<>><<>><<>> "Almost every character in each of these... songs is engaged in furtive behavior... by balancing verbal puzzles and moments of unequivocal clarity, Steely Dan has learned to keep the vampires from the door." -- Wayne Robbins, 1980 <<>><<>><<>><<>> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:56:19 EDT From: Exile217@aol.com Subject: several. . . <<>> Paul (?) : may i suggest you put on some lipstick and drink out of every bottle for that authentic look? jk. . . i would never approve of fleecing another liz fan like that. also dealing with relocation. i was so lucky to have ample liz shows back in michigan. ran a liz phair search on aol members in arizona and the results were quite sparse. if you're out there give me a holler. one good thing (read: me bouncing off the walls) was an article about her and participation in lillith with a great big picture in yesterday's (or maybe the day before's) issue of the tribune (east valley phoenix newspaper) (if this posted twice or had bounced, all apologies. i previously sent it to address i made up cause i couldn't remember the right one :) liz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:13:43 EDT From: JLD4125269@aol.com Subject: PhairitiesII, Raymond, West54th, copies Hello, Does anyone have Sessions at West 54th on video tape? Would anyone be willing to make me a copy? I am willing to trade. I have lots of stuff on audio tape, and a few videos. Thank you!!! Also - I am still making copies of Girlysounds, for anyone else who is interested. I also have Fuck and Run, Pottymouth Girl, Clean as a Whistle, Phairities, '96 Shelved Demos, and some other stuff. Please note it's all on tapes, I don't have CD capabilites yet. Raymond Lew - Ilost your "new" address. I'm sorry. Can you send it to me again? Thank you. Jase - you said you are considering doing another Phairities? Would it be just different versions of the same songs, or a new compilation, like Phairities II? I think it would be interesting to put together a Phairities II tape with Liz's new stuff. Maybe Conversation Between Two Bouncers, Firewalker and Don't Apologize (which I don't have yet - - can anyone help me out?), Bars of the Bed, Bloodkeeper, Don't Have Time, and her live covers (which I also don't have on tape yet -- can anyone help me out with those?). Any thoughts/sugestions/comments? Thanks. - -Janet ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 16:50:55 -0700 (PDT) From: raymond lew Subject: random notes is it just me, or does the font graphic for the liz phair webring look alot like one they use for buffy the vampire slayer? maybe i haven't been keeping up. just a thought. hey, is anyone in northern jersey going to lizphest in dc? i was thinking about going and wanted to see what my options were. if you're interested in giving a complete stranger a ride (so i don't have to take greyound), e-mail me. thanks! ...ray **************************************************************************** "I'm a wreck, I'm obsessed, I'm insane. Isn't that what you want me to say?" --Liz Phair the writings on the wall - http://www-scf.usc.edu/~rlew/ beginning to see the light - http://www-scf.usc.edu/~rlew/liz_phair/ **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:45:07 EDT From: AngelLieb@aol.com Subject: Firewalker lyrics and a try for Don't Apologize Lani asked for Firewalker lyrics: "does anyone have the rest of the lyrics?" - ---------------------------------------------------------- my hopes are like ambers lying around inside a firebed and your mind is a firewalker it steps on them like they are dead but But I can grow despite all we(they?) know you might not recognize me tomorrow Yes I can change despite all they say BECOME something strange and beautiful like joy like joy I fly like a wild flame that catches on whatever's near but your mind is a firewalker it sets its courseand never ends But I can grow despite all we(they?) know you might not recognize me tomorrow Yes I can change despite all they say BECOME something strange and beautiful like joy like joy *** kick ass keyboard solo *** take offers from every side and give my attentions about anywhere well do I recognize my actions? I look like I'm so unaware but I DON'T CARE But I can grow despite all we(they?) know you might not recognize me tomorrow Yes I can change despite all they say BECOME something strange and beautiful like joy like joy like joy - ---------------------------------------------------------- I just basically put KB's, Aly's and Lani's take on the lyrics together. As for the chorus, I think it's more of: "despite all they know.." Anyone shooting for the Don't Apologize lyrics? I can only catch the hey hey parts. First "Hey" hey hey hey hey hey Don't even talk about it hey hey hey hey hey Why don't you talk about it? Second "Hey" hey hey hey hey hey You got it, you got it hey hey hey hey hey Don't even think about it After that, I can't catch much, I get something like: "take your mind back...." and more after that. Bored...guess I'll play with my ewok pez thingy... KL ();) NP: The Beatles_Hard_Day's_Night ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V2 #142 ************************************