From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #102 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Friday, April 9 1999 Volume 02 : Number 102 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Sing to me Liz baby!! [Stace ] Catholic [Seena ] Today's the day ["Chipko Arnold" ] YDaHS MiLS ["Jaime" ] more grief ["DarkSide oftheMoon" ] Run to the flame; public apology [Michael Connolly ] More Liz dates--well, one more [Becky Crow ] [none] [Mike Marlatt ] response [Craig King ] Bounced message [Jason Long ] Bounced message [Jason Long ] quick note ["Katie Brown" ] Liz in Q Magazine - April 1999 [AngelLieb@aol.com] another (serious) tattoo idea ["Nicole W." ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:39:07 +1000 From: Stace Subject: Sing to me Liz baby!! Hi everyone!! It's me once again, letting you all know about my newest Liz CD purchases....if anyone recalls the last time i posted to the list was when I bought Whip-Smart, well now the wonderous me has got her hands on Exile & Juvenilia!!!! Ohhhhhhhhhh I'm in heaven!! Liz heaven!!! Now I can start relating to the song comments from all of you lovely people & actually understand them!!! Wooohoooo!! There is nothing so far that this woman has produced, that I have heard, that i dislike!! Now when I listen to Flower.....I think good onya Katie for rockin with Liz!!! Ohhhh that would have been the funniest!! ok ok well enough outta me, I've got lyrics to learn!!!! Hooroo!! ~Stacey - -- ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "If you obey all the rules...you miss all the fun!" _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/6535 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:36:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Seena Subject: Catholic I have always wondered what Liz meant by Help Me Mary please also. I'm soo sure its Mary-J. I really don't think Liz is a Catholic. Also, Catholics don't usually word their prayers that way, they simply ask Mary to pray for them. SURVEY!!! haha you did it.. I will do it but I will shorten it cos some of the questions are damn silly. name: Sina <___> Ziegler hometown: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada current residence: Calgary, Alberta bacon bits or crutons: crutons best town/city to chill in: Copenhagen, Denmark or SF, Calif do you drink: I did once, and now I'm too poor of a student to. pets: two birds.. Fatty and Soren car: Toyota 4 Runner where do you see yourself in 10 years: married or in a convent and still a student, trying to figure out what to major in. what music do you like: Liz Phair you idiots, and I like this one song by Republica, do you know which one I am talking about? I heard the rest of the Cd Sucks. personal comment: its true what they say about eating bean burritos. *sniff sniff* adios taco poops ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 01:39:54 PDT From: "Chipko Arnold" Subject: Today's the day Crawl across towards your window I'm calling softly from the street Always a lonely widow Half awake and sleeping on my feet I'm of age but have no children No quarter phone booth calls to home Just late with television Inside my bedroom all alone There is no use in waiting Offer up your steps so I can climb Show me all your figure paintings Etched in the middle of the night Let me stretch upon your carpet Let me hear the rain tap on your street Knowing I am safe on the inside Blankets wrapped and drifting off to sleep ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:08:58 -0400 From: "Jaime" Subject: YDaHS MiLS First things first-- All of you sad and pathetic people who have not been skinny-dipping, if you are over the age of fifteen you have no excuse for this negligence! I demand that you rip off your clothing a swim naked in a body of water that is not sheltered within the walls of your bathroom. Get outside and swim nude. I dont care if you are alone or with your grandmother-- DO IT. (Go ahead flame me, see if you can make me cry.) MrE ??? MrE ??? Mr-Mr-E, where are you? We got some work to do now... Come on MrE...where are you??? -- My rendition of the 'scooby-doo song' I have not seen a post from you in days. I am just hoping that you are out skinny-dipping. Lying nude on the beach, face-down... while eyeing the slinky females who are on the beach for the first time in the buff...their feet, stumbling, their hands, not knowing whether or not to cover a miscellaneous body part-- as they catch the eye of MrE-- and soon they know-- things will be okay. They soon regain the confidence they had as children before their innocence was stolen, before nudity was a shameful thing. They dance now and they cartwheel, singing and beaming in the sunshine... And MrE, lies awake, eyes glisten and his mind spins. Sorry... felt a tangent coming on and I went with it. Liz: What the hell is that noise at the beginning of WCSE's 'Girl's Room" ??? it is so fucked up, sounds like a wacky spaceship or something and I want to know if anyone know what the hell it is. Its cool, yet strange. Ah-whatever... --Jaime *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* "I know all I need to know, I know how much girl to go..." -- 'Animal Girl' --L. Phair "...Always know sometimes think it's me. But you know I know when it's a dream. I think I know, I mean, oh yes, but it's all wrong. That is, I think I disagree." --'Strawberry Fields Forever' -- J. Lennon ~* "It is recorded that Chinese Taoist recommended the addition of cannabis to their incense burners in the 1st century as a means of achieving immortality."*~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 04:26:43 PDT From: "DarkSide oftheMoon" Subject: more grief Nicole wrote: >i better stop typing. roommate might attack. Nicole, better check 8pm friday night on Fox, "When Roommates Attack!" Oh why not...but a short version... Ultimate survey for: Hilofer > Hometown: St. Pete, FL > > Current Residence: Tampa, FL > Do You Drink: Only until I pass out > Have you ever gone skinny dipping? .....Does falling in the toilet count? > Do you make fun of people: Only the mentally and physically challenged (and boy there's alot) >Favorite color: Purple (as in haze) > Pets: Tigerstriped Felinus Phurbawl Maximus > > Favorite type of music: Liz Phair of course > > Hobbies: Sex, drugs and rock n roll... > > Do you get along with your parents: When I'm not with them > > Favorite town to chill in: Amsterdam > Favorite Drink: Tequila > What's your bed time: 8am > Favorite Subject in School: Parking lot > Least Favorite Subject: French > Favorite Alcoholic Drink: Coconut rum, Sprite, apricot juice, and cherry juice....mix in blender...yum! > Favorite Sport to Watch: baseball, olympic ice skating (go Tonya Harding.!) > >Most humiliating moment: Admitting that I LIKE Tonya Harding.. > Craziest person or silliest you know: Me..oh if you only knew... > > What do you look for in another person: A pulse, large bank accounts, nymphomania Melody wrote: >but there is a cool article/interview in Alternative Press. It is >very interesting, and there is a gorgeously large photo of her with >duct tape over her mouth and she's all tied up. Somebody find this pic, scan and post it.....please! "Reality is for people who can't handle drugs." Someone on drugs...I don't recall who... _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 04:57:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Connolly Subject: Run to the flame; public apology Everybody is quoting- >I don't know if someone has mentioned this before >but is Help me Mary about pot? > >>The lyrics would indicate it is. - - From what I've seen, if you smoke pot a lot, EVERYTHING is a reference to it. Call it "self-absorption," or "mild paranoia," for lack of a better term. >>"See how fast they run to the flame" - -How about the simple answer, folks? She's comparing these evil roommates to brainless moths, heading to whatever is the the brightest light in their immediate area. Makes sense when coupled with the previous line, "Turn my disgust into fame." (Or something like that - don't have all her lyrics memorized.) Big Ed I publicly apologize for the Wayback Machine post a few days back. I haven't even read your e-mail to me yet, and pro'ly never will because of shame and remorse. === Mikey C Va Beach "But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." -Dennis Miller _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:20:36 -0400 From: Becky Crow Subject: More Liz dates--well, one more I don't know if this has been posted yet since I'm behind on the digests, but Liz will be playing at Bohager's in Baltimore on May 4. Tickets are on sale now through Ticketmaster. Like the 9:30 Club show, these tickets are $25. Also, does anyone know anything about David Mead? He's opening for Liz in DC. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:02:29 -0400 From: Mike Marlatt Subject: [none] >>My roommate is still gay. I never thought the song was about pot, I just always thought she had a catholic upbringing.(LIZ CONTENT) Or just that it was to pay a little homage to the Virgin Mary, a woman figure (one of not many) in Christianity. Ah, who knows. But I must also say, that your last comment is pretty ignorant. > >>My roommate is still gay. Uh....well...Of course he's still gay, and he will stay gay, because he was born like that, and he will die like that. No one changes into a sexuality..ur born straight, bi, or gay. Ummm, for those who felt the need to pat themselves on the back as politically correct and comment on my comment which was purely meant to be humorous (I'm assuming that the rest of you, especially those over 20 figured this out). My roommate is no less my friend now than his was 4 days ago and I never incinuated that he wasn't. I'm comfortable enough with the situation that I can see the humor in it. I thought someone else might see it as well. I just find it ironic that people from the US, a country that has been able to quash almost any and all gay rights, feel that they need to broaden the horizons of someone who has lived their entire life in one of North America's gay capitals. MY LITTLE SITUATION IS FAR MORE HUMOROUS THAN DRAMATIC. I KNOW THIS. MY APOLOGIES FOR THINKING OTHERS MAY FIND THE HUMOR IN IT. JUST BECAUSE I ASK FOR SOME FRIENDLY ADVICE AS TO HOW TO DEAL WITH THE FACT I CAN"T STOP THINKING ABOUT IT AND I"M SCARED AS HELL FOR THE GUY BECAUSE THEIR ARE A LOT OF SICK GAY MEN JUST LIKE THERE"S A LOT OF SICK STRAIGHT MEN, SHOULDN"T PAINT ME AS THE SIMPLISTIC HOMOPHOBE SO MANY OF YOU HAVE TO JUMPED TO A CONCLUSION OF ME BEING. MAY I NEVER SPEAK OF THE TOPIC HERE AGAIN. "and watch how fast they run, to the flame(r)" Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:36:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Craig King Subject: response Joseph wrote: Craig:Now hold on a sec. You rooting against the home team? This is a sin, almost close to rooting against the Packers! Just kidding. I have NEVER rooted against the Brewers! All I did was congratulate McGwire on the home run cuz he's one of my fav players. He has been since 1987. I love the Brewers to DEATH, and I would never root against them. But, just for the record I do HATE the Packers. I think I'm the only one in WI that does. Don't shoot me all you fellow Wisconsinites! Sorry no extra tix for the Liz U of Chicago show, which is only like 8 days away now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woohoo!!!! For no apparent reason, here's my top 5 fav Liz songs off of Ken's CD's: 1. Russian Girl (1996 Demo - disc 1) 2. Blood Keeper (Bonus Track - disc 2) 3. Bars Of The Bed (disc 2) 4. Tell Me You Like Me (disc 1) 5. What Makes You Happy (disc 1 - second version on disc) Craig "AdRock" RVD 4:20 says I just smoked your ass! Phair Territory http://phairterritory.freeservers.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:40:46 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: "Nicole W." Subject: Monsters It is obvious that I have created more than one monster. a) that imposter Nancy McKeon (it's not really her, because she couldn't be in Nashville when she's shacking it up here in my dorm with Alf and Candace Cameron) b) the ubiquitous survey. Now, there is nothing I can do to guarantee no one posts these again, but I can apologize for ever starting it (SORRY GUYS! I SERIOUSLY AM! I LIKE... WANT TO UNSUB MYSELF FOR THIS!) And I can say that if you feel so inclined to fill out the survey, DO NOT SEND IT BACK TO SUPPORT-SYSTEM! FLOOD MY MAILBOX AT nweisber@emerald.tufts.edu WITH IT. No, I won't like it, but it's better than everyone having to read them. Sigh. It's all my fault. I'm goign to hide away now... don't come after me... I'm hiding. bye. it's been real. - -Nicole ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:42:00 -0400 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: "John Cotter" Subject: another liz show in mass liz at mount holyoke college in south hadley mass anyone who could pick me up 2 tix will get the great tape of show. go here for info http://www.metaevents.com/FiveCol/calendrome.cgi?span=event&ID=7963&day=23&m onth=April&year=1999&state_values= peace johnpc@landmarknet.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:30:15 PDT From: "Katie Brown" Subject: quick note sleepy today i was thinking ... i love her new band, but i kinda miss brad and casey, too. sorry to all of you who are expecting packages from me, it's just that i am still waiting for mine! i am still trying to think of what to write in a note to Liz for her birthday.... um, sorry i follow you all over the country and didn't sing the back-up part... can't wait to see liz in providence with my sister... this is my new address, i can't use my work one anymore... yuck, my brain is mush this week, it is so nice out and i can't deal. well, i wasn't going to say anything about this but i suppose i will ... ( maybe somebody will get something out of it, maybe not) someone i know died monday am from cocaine... i don't wanna tell 900 people i don't know not to use it, but it really is a stupid drug, i am so mad at it. so there's that... everyone take care. KB _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:19:10 EDT From: AngelLieb@aol.com Subject: Liz in Q Magazine - April 1999 Thought everyone might enjoy reading these two articles I found in the April 1999 issue from the Q Magazine. There's also a picture and an ad in the magazine as well. I scanned the one pic and sent it to Ken and Jenny for them to put on their site. - ------------------------------------------------ Liz Phair 31-year-old Chicagoan songwriter offends her parents with saucy songs. By Mark Morris Three years ago, Liz Phair was ready to retire. The unexpected US success of her debut album, Exile in Guyville (1993) - it sold 200,00 copies - - made her America's favourite dirty-mouthed singer-songwriter, notorious for lyrics such as "Every time I see your face I get wet between the legs". But after the troubled sessions for the commercially disappointing Whip-Smart (1994), she was debating whether she wanted to remain in the record industry. "I remember thinking, Fuck it, I don't want people yelling at me on the phone," she says now. But motherhood changed all that. "Exhausting as it is," she adds, "I never had more ambition than when I had my son. I thought God, life is cool." The result is whitechocolatespaceegg, a supremely confident, tuneful album by a female singer-songwriter that owes more to the crafted guitar pop of Blondie than the folksier ramblings of Joni Mitchell. All of which made her presence on the all-female, hugging-and-learning Lilith Fair tour rather unlikely. "I did stick out," she admits, "I thought I was going to be fired in the first week. The lyrics I was spewing at the audience were completely unlike anything else anyone was doing." But as a good feminist, she was happy to be away from the laddish rock world. "It's so isolating to be a woman in this business," Phair groans. "Everyone's really tough, hanging out in the studios, smoking their Marlboro reds. I was like, Broaden your horizons guys." Phair, now 31, comes from an affluent Chicagoan family, and even went to summer camp with Julia Roberts ("We had a falling out because she kept calling me collect"). Her parents, however, didn't take to her choice of career. "They were mortified!" she snorts. "My mother's social set is very reserved and this was deeply inappropriate behaviour. Now they're trying to get behind me, like, By God, we'll support her! You get my parents' friends coming to the concerts and when I play the really dirty song, I'm imagining their faces. It's just so painful." - ------------------------------------------------ Liz Phair whitechocolatespaceegg (cd review) By Ian Cranna Four years and a baby later, feisty Chicagoan makes most polished album yet. Phair made her name in 1993-'94 with a brace of fearlessly frank yet irresistibly tuneful albums about men and sex. Since then love and a baby have contributed to a maturing process which sees her graduate from brief encounters to relationships, broadening her lyrical horizons to include pointed depictions, conversations and songs written from other viewpoints (even male ones). On the debit side, she also indulges in some less successful oblique imagery. It's also a much more polished, radio-friendly set, produced in part by Scott Litt (R.E.M) and messrs Berry, Mills and Buck appear on one gentle acoustic song. Yet if this artier, more mainstream style is less raw and in-your-face than of old, these 16 songs still have enough melody, attitude and wit to make Alanis Morissette and her ilk sound like whiny brats. (Three stars) - ------------------------------------------------ Three stars, which means "Good. Not for everyone, but fine within its field." Also, is there any who manages a page who would like to try to upload a Liz video I have? I thought of sharing it with everyone and tried uploading it on my page, but no luck. Please email me if you can upload videos. It's a Levi's jeans commercial I've had for a while. KL ();) Kindness is the circle. What you do for others will come back to you. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 20:26:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nicole W." Subject: another (serious) tattoo idea I know I know... I'm posting again when I should be punished, but this is vital info that I must provide to the public. I thought of another idea for a liz-related tattoo. How about that five- pointed star-like (ooo hyphens abound!) shape she has on her white guitar? Yeah? You know the one? well fine if you don't... let me go try and find a pic where you can see it... doot dee doot dee doo... Well you can see it faintly in the bottom left of this pic... http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/2834/liz94.jpg let me see if i can find another. You can see it far away in http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/2834/liz112.jpg These pics are from Robbie's site. Later... going back to my hole in the mud. - -Nicole ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V2 #102 ************************************