From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #97 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Monday, April 5 1999 Volume 02 : Number 097 Today's Subjects: ----------------- sprung forward ["Nicole W." ] re: whipsmart single [Melissa Leigh ] obla-di-obla-da ["Paul Erickson" ] Lounge Ax show [mark@njycamps.org] Re: support-system-digest V2 #97 [QueenB880@aol.com] please post tabs ["dana" ] survey [Craig King ] liz-tattoos ["JeNnY sAyLeR" ] ha HA! ["Nicole W." ] shit... sorry to post again ["Nicole W." ] A few pressing topics [Brian Carmichael ] This is NOT Nicole ["Nicole W." ] Re: support-system-digest V2 #96 [marty@evansville.net] What's Up, Matador? [Dennis Junkoo Kim ] Tattoo ideas [AngelLieb@aol.com] Liz Chicago + Boston FM CD's for trade [Jonathan Mikos ] WXRT [Msmrizing2@aol.com] steven's going underground ["tree shadow" ] after a million times, it sounded different today [Slopo@aol.com] post from... ALF ["Nicole W." ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 03:51:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nicole W." Subject: sprung forward i hate HATE springing forward. and i hate typing so slow cuz roommate went to bed 3 hrs ago but just woke up and said it "wasn't really" my fault. Well this has been a shitty weekend, but i won't complain here. i'll just do what i came to do, which is respond to the previous digest. Hilofer: The thing about my one post being tongue in cheek... only the froot loop part was tongue in cheek, but it was also true. And everything else was true as well. I'm so glad someone brought up tattoos! I have two of them. One little yellow star, and one red thing that i can't explain but it kinda ended up looking like a... one of those round blades for saws or whatever? or a sun on a better day. If someone wants to see it, umm... let me see if i'ts on this computer... No it's not. oh well. Only the star has any significance: i like stars. the star was gotten kind of... well i went into the tattoo parlor looking for a tattoo and didn't find one, and i love stars, and i couldn't leave without a tatt, so i got a little yellow star. twas my first tatt. The red thing was just something cool i found. In three years i plan on getting a pearl jam related tattoo (it will have been 10 yrs of them being my fave band), and if i get any tatts in the interim, which i've been thinking about lately, i want to get something important (which will be hard to find), intricate (my two tatts are very basic shapes), and black. I love tattoos and i find them so sexy! i mean... not on old men or anything. ewww. I don't think liz has a tattoo. ummm... you could get the dancing people from the inside cover of exile, person who wants a liz tattoo. Or hay seeds. Or a shit brown reservoir, or a white bird of texas, or cindy crawford in teh middle of a cyclone, or umm... lots of girls (girls! girls! girls!), or a portrait of uncle alvarez, or a pitbull in a basement, or an ant in alaska, or elvis, or hahaha! a real cunt in spring (btw, i've never heard or thought it was rend, just rent), or letters and sodas, or... double whammy! a whitechocolatespaceegg tossed up with hands found in place, or two rivers meeting... I could go on for a long time. i better stop typing. roommate might attack. plus cuz of the damned daylight savings, it's 3:50 am. goodnight. - -Nicole ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 04:59:05 -0400 From: Melissa Leigh Subject: re: whipsmart single I don't think it's too rare. I mean you wouldn't find it at your local mall or anything, but I've got one and I've seen a few others about. Doesn't it have the most gorgeous picture of liz inside? She looks like a tough city girl. :) FTP site for the weston song: 24.218.44.25 port 21 . It's in the uploads section so I don't know how long it will be there. I'll see if I can find it elsewhere. user: mp3 password: free I'm gonna see liiiiiz! 20 days and countin' - ---melissa ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 01:05:16 PST From: "Paul Erickson" Subject: obla-di-obla-da >Unless Greyhound fucks me over again, I'll be in Columbus rather >early on 4/20. So if anyone wants to chill, let me know. I hope I'll be there and would love to hang out prior to "the show". Curently, my situation is this: I have two tickets. Me and a friend of mine from Cincinnati are planning to go ..... but my workplace has just decided to move me to San Diego. Hopefully I can get back to the wonderful the midwest to make the show. I'll be wearing my name-tag. AKA "slim-shady" ***************************************************** >Does this mean the shows will feature Liz & Buddy alone? Are we that >lucky? 'Stripped-down' cannot possibly mean keyboards, keyboards, >keyboards, so it appears I'm in for an even greater treat this time. It >does sound too good to be true, though, like most Liz news. What is this grudge against keyboards? You and everyone else on this list who doesn't like keyboards can fuck off! This is of course coming from someone who has been a devoted keyboard player since my parents started me with piano lessons while in grade school. Need I remind you that Liz also plays keyboard (i.e. piano on chopsticks, etc.) ****************************************************** >From: Jenny >okay, ha ha, since I ve made so many drunk posts to this list, I think it is >time for a high one. ;) Anywho, About those drug songs like songs to >listen to while on drugs, my favorite is Shatter. High+shatter=good. . by >the way, it s alot easier to type while high then drunk. Students Against >Drunk Typeing (DATS) hmm, that way makes is drunk against typing student. >he heeee. Ookya, well Im off!! Jenny, another good post. I think you're cool. Right now I'm back in Chgo. Pretty drunk but not high. And you're right, typing is a bitch! ****************************************************** You asked for it Nicole. Now everyone on this list is going to answer your post. (or maybe just people who are drunk like me): Ultimate survey for: Paul L. Erickson Name given at birth: Paul, Paulie, "P", Erickson, "the digital dictator", "the analogue anarchist" Hometown: Chgo Hts, IL Current Residence: Cincinnati Croutons or Bacon Bits: Croutons (I'm a vegetarian) Favorite Salad Dressing: vinegar and oil (basilmic vinegar) Do You Drink: just tonight because I'm back in chgo hts w/ my parents Shampoo or Conditioner: dandruff shampoo (when I wear black), no conditioner Have you ever gone skinny dipping? "only in the bathtub alone" (good answer Nicole), oh yeah, once I got "jiggy" w/ a girlfriend in a hot-tub Do you make fun of people: no, it's too easy Favorite Color: blue because it highlights my eyes Have you ever been convicted of a crime: uh, uh, uh . . . . can I plead the 5th? One pillow or two: definitely two (w/ blue covers, of course) Pets: only the cock roach that is haunting my apartment and has so far escaped my fury Favorite type of music: anything in a minor key because my life is a minor key Hobbies: keyboards, composing, smoking, and testicular self-exam Toothpaste: crest whitening (see above) Favorite Foods: right now? - york peppermint Do you get along with your parents: My mom - always. My dad - sometimes. Favorite town to chill in: Please, please, please get me the fuck out of Cincinnati and back to my home, Chgo. Favorite ice cream: starbuck coffee/choc chip Favorite Drink: rice water (ugh! I miss it, and like I said there's no good Mexican food in Cinncinnati) What's your bed time: with Tylenol PM: about 1 AM. w/o Tylenol PM about 3 AM. Adidas, Nike or Reebok: ASICS for running. Birks for slumming at home. Big black leather shoes with square toes for going out (the thicker the sole, the better, anything to give me some height). Perfume/Cologne: Joop! Favorite Subject in School: art history, swimming (an elective, of course) Least Favorite Subject: engineering (why the fuck did I become an engineer? That's right, "shitloads of money") Favorite Alcoholic Drink: anything besides, wait I can't remember the name, sambuca?, yeah I think that's it. Anyway that's the . . . nevermind. Favorite Sport to Watch: soccer (for the hot girls) Most humiliating moment: missing validictorian in high school because of getting a "B" in PE because my teacher was a bitch and I personally vocalized this to her. Craziest person or silliest you know: My friend from college, Dorian. Yo "D", I miss you man! Don't be a ghost! What do you look for in another person: empathy and understanding and a love of music (especially - liz phair and depeche mode, the best song writers of the 90s and 80s, respectively) Say one nice thing about the person who sent this to you and be sure to send it back to them: thanks to all of my support-system buddies for being there day after day, in sickness and in health, etc. Person you sent this to that is least likely to respond: NA Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 08:03:29 -0400 From: mark@njycamps.org Subject: Lounge Ax show Has anyone got a good quality tape of the Lounge Ax show? I've lots to trade and money to pay if necessary! We were there and would like a momento! :-) Cheers ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 10:21:09 EDT From: QueenB880@aol.com Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #97 Well, I love Liz, I hear she is coming to 9:30 club in DC in case anyone wanted to know sometime in April. I'll need more details but oh well. Also, is Juvenalia good? Worth buying? I LOVE Exile in Guyville, and I've taken a particular liking to Whipsmart as well. WCSE is good, but definitely isn't her best work. Ok, write back any info you all have. Also, does she have anymore albums? ~me~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 10:54:27 -0700 From: "dana" Subject: please post tabs i forgot to ask: whoever it was that said they were getting tabs by watching a video (i keep forgetting to check the names, dammit. sorry.): can you post them? finding good accurate liz tabs is not easy...my guitar teacher can't even figure her songs. anyway, if it's too much of a hassle to post on this list, email me privately if you want and maybe we can work something out. that would be so great, i can't even tell you...the mysteries finally revealed...! cool! thanks, dp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 10:59:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Craig King Subject: survey Nobody else probably will, but what the hell. I'm gonna take the survey. Why? Why not. Name given at birth: Craig Michael King Nicknames: "KingAdRock", "Nature Boy" Hometown: Milwaukee, WI Current Residence: Milwaukee, WI Croutons or Bacon Bits: neither Favorite Salad Dressing: salads suck Do You Drink: sometimes, but no beer, beer tastes like shit Shampoo or Conditioner: both Have you ever gone skinny dipping? nope Do you make fun of people: who hasn't? Favorite Color: blue Have you ever been convicted of a crime: nope One pillow or two: one thick pillow Pets: nope Favorite type of music: rock (classic, hard, metal, plain old rock) Hobbies: guitar, music, web page design, baseball, wrestling Toothpaste: crest Favorite Foods: spaghetti Do you get along with your parents: pretty much Favorite town to chill in: Las Vegas, Chicago Favorite ice cream: mint chocolate chip Favorite Drink: water, root beer What's your bed time: 2-3 AM Adidas, Nike or Reebok: Nike Favorite Perfume/Cologne: Cool Water Favorite Subject in School: alltime = Intermediate Guitar Least Favorite Subject: history Favorite Alcoholic Drink: 7 & 7 Favorite Sport to Watch: baseball, wrestling Most humiliating moment: Ummmm...... Craziest person or silliest you know: my crazy friend Dan (we call him devil man) What do you look for in another person: respect, good atttitude Say one nice thing about the person who sent this to you: Ummmmm......... Craig "AdRock" RVD 4:20 says I just smoked your ass! Taz 6:32 - twice as pissed Phair Territory http://phairterritory.freeservers.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:20:22 -0500 From: "JeNnY sAyLeR" Subject: liz-tattoos I pondered a liz tattoo for a while. If I got one, I was thinking of those dancing people who are on the front of the exile in guyville cd, the light blue one, ya know?? Anywho, I think they are cool, but there are risks associated with getting a tattoo that the artist is not familiar with. I have seen people that have misspelled and otherwise messed up tattoos, so I dunno. I think it would be cool to have a liz tattoo. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jenny "Quotes are cool...but then again, if they weren’t, no one would quote them." - - Marabeth Madsen Cool, Tall, Vulnerable, and Luscious - http://www.liz-phair.com Vampyr - A Buffy the Vampire Slayer Page http://www.saylerfamily.com/jas/vampyr.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 16:02:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nicole W." Subject: ha HA! In an incredible advance in my web site making technologies, I have finally figured out the secret of transparent gifs! Whoa! No more trying to match background colors to colors I use in my graphics' backgrounds! No more not being able to have pretty titles for my pages that have background wallpaperish stuff! Wahoo! Haha! See me in action at various places on my site, such as http://www.angelfire.com/ca/DontWalk/formmail.html. By the way, my site IS a Liz Phair site! I'm not just randomly soliciting. I k now, no one knows my site cuz it's not a very (sniff sniff) popular site. Anyway... I really shouldn't be fucking around on the computer when I should be doing work, so I can't apply my newly acquired knowledge to my whole site yet, but I'm just so elated to have finally figured out this shit! I wasn't dumb but i was so naive. No maybe I was dumb. And I still am, dag blast it! I know i've only been up for 2.5 hours, but i wanna go bakc to bed! i think i just f'n WILL. I can work when i wake up... for hte rest of hte night. After all, x files is a rerun. Sigh. OH! BRITS! I think I am going to London for 6 weeks this summer!! You'll notice me, I"ll be that really american touristy looking chick. Nothing else very liz related I don't think... Later, Nicole ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 16:22:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nicole W." Subject: shit... sorry to post again Sorry to post again but I meant to post this last night... I thought of it just as I had put my co m puter to sleep... I knew i'd forget today... I didn't want to risk waking up my roommate more last night, so I didnt' type it when I would have remembered... anyway i remember now. I was in a frat thurs. night (mistakenly! i swear!) and someone had this bumpersticker over their door: "It's 4:19. Got a minute?" I thought it was pertinent to our 4:20 discussion. And kind of cute in a stoner frat boy sort of way. Oh... an apology for sending that forward thing to the digest, but I thought it was an easy way to "send it to everyone you know." And it's not liek it's one of those forwards that you have to respond to or else you'll get electrocuted in the bathtub by escape electric eels or anything. Geez! Later again (and you know I usually mean it!) - -Nicole ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 15:51:26 -0700 From: Brian Carmichael Subject: A few pressing topics Did some calculating - the closest Liz ever came to playing here was Seattle, WA, 1500 KM drive (935 miles for you non-metric people) away. Second closest has gotta be Minneapolis or San Fran at about twice that distance. Me, bitter? Absolutely. Floridians, I feel your pain... Once Northern California dries up, where are they going to get water? Canada eh... Nicole, you rock. Just thought I'd tell ya... Seems to be a lot of celebration of recreational drug use on the list lately. I gotta agree with Katie L, "Not getting high on substances, I only know how to get high on life." The odd pint o' Guinness doesn't count though... Put MS Frontpage on my computer a few weeks ago...completely uninstalled it within 15 minutes & took a shower...Tried a different program that seemed pretty good until my webpage structure was done & I found out I couldn't edit any of the HTML the program generated. I'm this close to re-building it all in notepad...Screw this wysiwig crap. Just had to vent a bit; I'm in a weird mood today. Sorry. Brian NP: Theme From Shaft ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 18:32:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nicole W." Subject: This is NOT Nicole Hello, This is Candace Cameron. You might remember me from Full House. No, I wasn't one of those blasted twins. Oh nevermind. As a former child starlet, I am currently unemployed. Having already tried the "made for tv movie" circuit, my only choices now seem to be to a) be anorexic, b) rob a store, c) punch someone out, d) sell drugs, umm... etc. See "Diff'rent Strokes" for more examples. But I have discovered one more! Post to support-system! Anyway, Nicole has graciously lent me her e-mail account for this post. I was just in the shower thinking about "Wild Thing", and then I thought about "Tell Me You Like Me". I do not know if anyone has posted about this before, but in both songs there are references to dreaming of spiders. "After each date she had the boys went home and dreamed of spiders" and "You had a dream in which I was a spider while I was dreaming that you were in love with me" Now I don't know the Freudian ramifications of dreaming about spiders, but it must have something to do with... umm... Well I don'tk now, the two songs seem to indicate different meanings of dreaming of spiders. No, maybe not. Maybe Ms. Wild Thing kind of puts a spell on these guys cuz she's wicked, so they dream of wicked spiders, and the thing about "TMYLM" is that while Liz is dreaming that this guy is in love with her, he's dreaming she's a wicked spider. Yeah. Hey, I'm not smart, i'm a former tv starlet! Bye! - -Candace Cameron, forever in the shadows of the Olsen twins and Kirk Cameron ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 18:54:22 -0500 (CDT) From: marty@evansville.net Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #96 hey all, i just found out that liz is playing at U of C on April 17. just my luck. i'm even an alum of Chicago, and i can't even make it to the concert (my childhood friend is getting married). i know that the wedding is important and she expects me to go, but when i look in the future and reminisce, it will be the fact that i didn't go to see liz which will strike me the most, not the image of a bouquet of flowers heading wildly in my direction. anyway, just wanted to share since i bet there are others out there who want to see liz just as badly as i do. take care, victoria ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:20:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Dennis Junkoo Kim Subject: What's Up, Matador? So a couple of friends and I rented the What's Up, Matador? video from VisArt in Chapel Hill. There's this weird interview with Liz Phair, where she only gives one or two word answers. She also looks like she's 20. They show the Jealousy video. That is all. - --- "Your manuscript is both good and original, but the part that is good is not original and the part that is original is not good." -Samuel Johnson "A'nta baka?" -Asuka d. www4.ncsu.edu/~djkim2 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 21:12:15 EDT From: AngelLieb@aol.com Subject: Tattoo ideas TMK wrote: "Liz-related...hmmm...interesting. The spaceegg pattern on the cover of WCSE is pretty cool (Katie?)." Yes? Someone say my name? ();) Sounds cool, but it wouldn't it look sorta like some skin cancer? Other ideas: A cherub with a red ass, one of those figures in Whip-Smart. I dunno...I've thought of a tattoo myself and still am pondering over it. Tattoos are forever and can't be erased.... Music is forever too, but it can be easily forgotten. KL ();) "All the angels kneeling to the Northern Lights," Hole. NP: Celebrity Skin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 21:21:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Mikos Subject: Liz Chicago + Boston FM CD's for trade I have the following CDR's for trade. Both CD's were mastered directly from DAT. I'm looking to trade for Liz Memorabilia (posters, promos, etc.) I am NOT interested in selling these, so please do not ask. Liz Phair Disc 1 Disc 2 10/06/98 Avalon 10/26/98 Vic Theatre Boston Broadcast Chicago Broadcast Tracklist: Tracklist: Explain It To Me Explain It To Me 6'1" Cinco De Mayo Cinco De Mayo Never Said Love Is Nothing Johnny Feelgood Support System Uncle Alvarez Never Said Big Tall Man Johnny Feelgood Polyester Bride Dance Of The Seven Veils Supernova Uncle Alvarez What Makes You Happy Polyester Bride Mesmerizing Supernova Jealousy Flower WCSE What Makes You Happy Divorce Song Mesmerizing Perfect World Divorce Song Stratford-On-Guy WhiteChocolateSpaceEgg Perfect World Stratford-On-Guy Fuck And Run I DO NOT WANT ANALOG TAPES, and I WILL NOT TRADE FOR CDR's of other SHOWS, unless the origin is known and guaranteed, there are too many CDR's being burnt of inferior quality material, ie analog tapes sourced from DAT or from MP3's. Video: from your First generation only, so you need to have got it from the taper, or be the taper. Any Liz memorabilia, setlists, posters, whatever send details. Ticket stubs to Liz shows... Good photographs from any Liz show. Thanks for your time, Jonathan thewho@igcom.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:29:35 EDT From: Msmrizing2@aol.com Subject: WXRT ok, so im listening to the radio at 830 and i hear liz. so i recorded as much of it as i could. i guess i missed the begining. would anyone be willing to trade me for a full copy of it? i was at that show and i would really love to have a copy. i have LOADS of liz stuff to trade. please email me. one week till liz in dekalb!! HELLO MY NAME IS..........KATIE ( you know its a great idea) :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 21:59:08 -0500 From: "tree shadow" Subject: steven's going underground ladies and gentlemen a pleasant spring to you all. why do i sound upbeat you might be asking. i got a present this weekend in the form on the wcse sessions cd's. ken you are the man. now the question is do i go to class and write papers or do i get lost in the magic of the wondrous ms. phair. hmmmmm. its april 4th, 16 days to go until columbus. steven in the haute "i feel the sun on my back, i smell the earth in my skin, i see the sky above me like a full recovery." liz phair ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:31:44 EDT From: Slopo@aol.com Subject: after a million times, it sounded different today fuck and run fuck and run fuck and run fuck and run fuck and run. i've listened to this song approximately 1,897,180,532,102,178,110,283 times. but today when i was driving up to school, when the lyrics "even when i was 12" rolled around, a shiver went down my back. it was just different today. and better than i've ever heard it. i guess the 1,897,180,532,102,178,110,284th time is the charm. i hope that just applies to this song, because if i have to date that many girls before finding my perfect angel, i will probably give up and simply lead the life liz sings about. fuck and run, my friends, fuck and run, Pixie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 23:14:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nicole W." Subject: post from... ALF Hi, this is Alf. You might remember me from the television show Alf. Nicole has graciously lent me her e-mail account so I can post some things. She wouldn't post five times in a day. First I'd like to shout out to another unemployed 80s actor, Candace Cameron. Hey Candace! Nicole is really excited because her roommate came in today and said "Dammit! it's your fault, i've had this song in my head all day" and then she sings a pretty bad rendition of a couple of lines from "Go On Ahead." Then she says "and then i have these otehr songs in my head, like 't-cell regeneration... i need a ride!" The thing is, Nicole's roommate hates Liz Phair, and so Nicole never plays liz when she is in the room, yet there must be a leftover aura in the room of Liz so it has seeped into her roommate's head! woohoo! Another thing about Nicole, this girl down the hall asked today if she could borrow a Liz P. cd to burn. Nicole said yes to be nice, because she doesn't really know the girl and she doesn't want to be a bitch, but she is reluctant to give up a cd to someone she hardly knows, and also it would be better if this girl would BUY a cd. What to do? Also, umm... oh yes! Look at an excerpt from an e-mail Nicole received today (hi if you are on thsi mailing list... i hope it's okay that i'm excerpting you): "I was out bike riding today and ran into Liz with her parents and her son at a northshore Chicago coffee shop, and gushed on her re: her latest album. She seemed to appreciate it." Isn't that so cool?? Well back to Melmac... - -Alf ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V2 #97 ***********************************