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support-system-digest     Monday, January 18 1999     Volume 02 : Number 017



                               Today's Subjects:
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  ...i found my friends, they're in my head              [MrE <MrE@mr-e.net>]
  maybe if i got the torch...                            [MrE <MrE@mr-e.net>]
  Re: support-system-digest V2 #16     [melodious19@juno.com (Alice Springs)]
  Re: support-system-digest V2 #16     [melodious19@juno.com (Alice Springs)]
  Liz Phest                                              [Msmrizing2@aol.com]
  An idea for Liz Fest                       [Craig King <cking4h@yahoo.com>]
  Woo ha                           ["Nicole W." <nweisber@emerald.tufts.edu>]
  places to request liz+w54th+superstarLiz  ["Bryan Moore" <brm35844@student]
  Stacey the newcomer :) (MLVC)                       [Dan <danmac@MNSi.Net>]
  [none]                                  ["Stacey Wirt" <stacey@toward.com>]
  Cut the categories                                      [AngelLieb@aol.com]
  Please email me!                           [Craig King <cking4h@yahoo.com>]
  Once you've left a lonely Nicole on her own...  ["Nicole W." <nweisber@eme]

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:42:06 -0800
From: MrE <MrE@mr-e.net>
Subject: ...i found my friends, they're in my head

 >>rare palindromes
...i have some of those growing in the flower bed next to the opium poppies.

>>Hey, I have an idea for whoever would
>>want to participate.  I want to add a page
>>to my Phair Territory site that has a profile
>>of everyone on this Support System Digest.
...some things are better left to the unknown. for example, i looked at the baggie and wondered about it's chemical makeup,
but thought it  in my best interest to remain ignorant and blissful. hope that helps, and have a spaced egghead day! which
reminds me, how do you keep these twizzlers lit?

ATTN: REAL CONTENT  ALERT!
does anyone have any pertinent and/or non-un-impertinent information with regard to the release of juan feelgood? or was i
twizzlered and missed it? and how about pj on sessions?

and for collectors, ebay had a large assortment of liz stuff that was receiving little or no bid action the night before
this one. there was vinyl, poster things, and other things that a moment ago i could have written of...

live from calcutta:
the original Flame Boy whose sig has nothing to do with digests, anyone in particular or life in specific or general but is
by design
merely an attempt to keep at least the memory alive...

MrE
- --
- ----------come on over and do the twist
- -----------------------over do it and have a fit
- -love you so much ya make me sick
:=<come on over and shoot the shit

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:57:13 -0800
From: MrE <MrE@mr-e.net>
Subject: maybe if i got the torch...

>>Oooooooooh MrE......when are you going
>>to announce your Liz page? ():)  *sweet smile*
>>KaTiE ():D
uh...when are you gonna tell me how to keep these twizzlers lit? the liz phair rocket girl page will be available for public
consumption when and when deemed edible by chef emeril...she is actually in line awaiting completion of the 'absurd kingdom'
and 'lost latin' sites...as usual, one amazing bunch of unrelated and useless information...

live from MrE

calcutta
 --
- ----------come on over and do the twist
- -----------------------over do it and have a fit
- -love you so much ya make me sick
:=<come on over and shoot the shit

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 01:13:03 -0800
From: melodious19@juno.com (Alice Springs)
Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #16

Oh, and another thing: Could someone make me a copy of Liz on Sessions? 
I saw when SY was on that show, and it was really cool.  I'm so glad that
Liz performed on it!

Thanks,
*Mel*

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 01:11:50 -0800
From: melodious19@juno.com (Alice Springs)
Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #16

Hello all,
	I am new to this list and am wondering what this Liz Phest is all
about.  Please, bear with me, but could someone email me privately and
explain what's going on?  :-)  It sounds intriguing.
	I have had the worst day ever: My ex-best friend wrote me a
letter explaining why she had to end our friendship (after which I was
totally bawling), and then I went to a party that I'd been looking
forward to all week and it turned out to be completely dull.  But right
now I'm listening to Shelved Demos and all is right with the world... 
Liz seems to lift up my spirits so easily.  Ahhh...  "I'm waiting I'm
waiting I'm waiting for the bird..."
	Since this is my first post, I will tell you a little about me
(since I'm sure you all are totally curious).  My name is Melody and I
live in California.  I have been listening to Liz for about 4-5 years
now.  A friend let me borrow a mixed tape of Sonic Youth and "Supernova"
was randomly recorded on Side B.  I was like, Who is this??  So I begged
him to let me borrow his CDs of hers (he hesitantly let me have one at a
time -- he was going through a liz phase in which he didn't listen to
anything else), and I fell in love with her beautiful lyrics and catchy
music.  Being a pianist myself, my first favorite was "Canary."  I would
listen to it over and over before I went to sleep each night.  It was so
calming, so dreamy.  And "all hell broke loose after that"!  I went on a
Liz rampage and bought EIG and WS on the same day (after my friend
demanded his CD back).  From that day forward, I have been a humongous
phan.
	Phew -- Sorry for such a long post.  But, hey, it *is* my first. 
I'm still learning...

*Melody*

PS: Marie, I like your Oscar Wilde quote.  He's one of my faves!  :-)

"I wish you all the joy that you can wish."
+++++William Shakespeare+++++
"Music is the perfect type of art.  Music can never reveal its ultimate
secret."
+++++++Oscar Wilde+++++++

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 10:20:12 EST
From: Msmrizing2@aol.com
Subject: Liz Phest

I dont really know is in charge of all the plannings for liz phest, but i live
about 20 minutes from chicago and although im no expert on all the details of
the city, i could do my best to help out with setting this whole thing up.  Do
we have like a chairperson for this or something?  well, if theres anything i
can do to help just email me.
katie

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 08:08:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Craig King <cking4h@yahoo.com>
Subject: An idea for Liz Fest

Someone mentioned something about having Liz Fest at a campground. 
Well, I'm not sure what the campground situation is like in Chicago,
but there is a REALLY cool place in Wisconsin that is about 1 1/2
hours from Milwaukee that would be perfect!  It's called Wisconsin
Dells and it has literally TONS of campgrounds and motels that are
really reasonable.  It would be perfect for Liz Fest.  Plus there are
3 water parks and tons of attractions.   One of the water parks is the
largest water park in the country, and it is so AWESOME!  But
Wisconsin Dells is about 3 hours from Chicago, and I could find a
cheap campground if we wanted to hold it there.  But it's just a
suggestion.  Please give me some feedback on this.  We don't have to
have Liz Fest here, but it really would be a perfect place to have it.
 The only hard thing would be transportation from Milwaukee airport to
Wisconsin Dells, but I know something could be arranged.  Oh well, let
me know. 

Craig "The KingAdRock"
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:16:07 -0500
From: "Nicole W." <nweisber@emerald.tufts.edu>
Subject: Woo ha

Hey!  Cool!  I have only heard one Jen Trynin song, but Robbie, after
reading your quote from her about Store 24, she's cool automatically.  For
those that don't live or attend school in or around Boston, Store 24s are
like... convenience stores.  Anyway, it's just funny that they're in a
song.  
	The thing about some store 24s is that, like most everything in the Boston
area, they aren't open 24 hours.  Oh well.
	Anyway... uhhhh... 
	Well can't remember anything else I might want to write right now, so
maybe later.  As usual.

	Wait... I have no liz content... OH!  I finally got my pics from 11/30
Boston.  I will be posting them on my site soon.

- -Nicole "like relieving a headache" W.

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:58:42 -0500
From: "Bryan Moore" <brm35844@student3.unipissing.ca>
Subject: places to request liz+w54th+superstarLiz

O.k., I was pokin around on the MTV site and the Muchmusic (Canada's
superior music station), and I found their respective request lines --- so
here they are:  musictalk@mtvmail.com , and ondemand@muchmusic.com . Oh,
heres the local toronto rock station to music@q107.com . So it would be
really cool if all 700 + people on this list took a minute to send an email
to these 3 addresses requesting that her Phairness be played and played
often.

On Liz the superstar::---------------->>>
Part of me wants Liz to become a superstar, but part of me also likes things
the way they are. I am experienced w/this sort of thing because I have been
a fan of Sarah McLachlan since Solace came out and she was completely
unknown south of the border.  She used to come to Toronto all the time and
play really (really)small places and while she was not a superstar and
household name, she had a core base of fans that loved her.  When Fumbling
Towards Ecstasy came out, there was this energy surrounding the album and
all of her 'hardcore' fans knew that things were going to change (and fast).
The result is, well the Lilith Fair and Sarah being a superstar.  I was
checkin out the interviews w/Liz on the sessions at 54th(or whatever it'z
called)  website and she was talkin' about Lilith and how it has effected
her. She describes how watching the perfected performances of the other
artists gives her something to 'shoot for' in her career. She also talks
about 'what it takes to be them'. Them being the other lilith-chicks
(mostly-probably Sarah).  I think Liz is realizing --hey, I can do this.
Liz has lived w/more critical acclaim then almost anybody, and I think that
she now wants the fame, fortune and recognition from the public.  Well to
conclude, some of us die-hard Sarah fans feel we have lost her forever.
Sarah is now a top-seller and a top-draw, w/the most successful tour 2 years
in a row.  What we lose is being able so shout "sarah, I luv you", in  a
theatre full of 500 people and have her look right at me, and smile and say
"oh, thats so sweet, thank you". What have we gained??

Oh, speaking of the sessions at west 54th, if you go to the website, you can
view a couple performance clips and 2 interview clips.  When they are
downloaded, they go to a temp folder, and you can only view it once.  To
save the clips (or anyother similar ones), go to windows explorer, then go
to the 'windows\temporary internet files' folder, the files will be .rm for
real player. I think they are art1int1.rm (or somthing like that).  Anyways,
copy these files to 'my documents' or any other folder you want and you can
view the interview clips anytime you want.

Well, yet again, I was gonna just post my request thing, and I go on
forever, oh well.
Bryan ---ahhhh,-- I was gonna quote something or other, but not today

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 18:26:54 -0500
From: Dan <danmac@MNSi.Net>
Subject: Stacey the newcomer :) (MLVC)

Stacey (MLVC) wrote:
>If anyone out
>there has any .wav files of any "other" Liz song (as i have not heard
>ANY that aren't on Space Egg), I would greatly appreciate a few in the
>mail!! :))

   Hey stacey!! I guess you kinda gave up on me sending you the tapes...I'm
making them right now as we speak - I recently bought a pack of 15 90 minute
blank cassettes...

 Just so everyone knows, Stacey and I go waaaaaaaaaaaaaay back, like from a
year ago...we used to chat on IRC all the time in, of all channels - the
Madonna channel :) at any rate, I'm the guy responsible for getting her into
Liz, glad I contributed a tiny bit to help create a fan waaaaay out in
beautiful Aussie :)..Cool to see you on the list - and I'll get yer tapes
made TONIGHT - just email me again with yer address again...nice to see you
around .

                                          Dan.
  

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 18:26:15 -0500 (EST)
From: "Stacey Wirt" <stacey@toward.com>
Subject: [none]

<Till next time...cheers matey's!!!
<~Stacey

Good Golly!  There's another Stacey out there to further confuse the masses (hehe)...  let's see, Katie's, 
Sara's and now the Stacey's!!! 

Ok Ok, I'll stop the pointless post.  Now for something substantial...Hmmm let's see.....
Oh yeah, I remember now, was anyone watching mtv the other day when Alan-ass (I love that spelling, 
whoever thought of it) was on mtv live?  Did she mention our dear Liz?  I'm guessing she probably didn't but 
figured I'd ask anyway ;-)
I had the wierdest liz dream the other night.  I remember dreaming that liz was singing a song - but a new 
song that I had never heard before. I heard her voice and her guitar, but totally new lyrics.  The weird part is 
that it was actually a good song (from what I remember, anyway) and not some random dream-like song.  Of 
course, now I can't remember the lyrics or what it was about.  It's driving me crazy!!
- -Stacey

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:14:55 EST
From: AngelLieb@aol.com
Subject: Cut the categories

Robbie added something:
<< ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() >>
	What?! Are these my little spaceeggs or my halos?!

	Anyways, just thought of all the video clips I got to watch
of Liz and how she's in the category of Indie Rock. Um...it kinda
threw me off for some reason. Probably cuz I view that this world
could go on without having to categorize EVERYTHING. Ohki 
people, it's music. You either like it or not, don't categorize it
or give it a title. GRRRRrrr....and I still hate seeing the part 
on little profiles on records of race and all. Aren't we all human?
	Oh well.....more ramblings out of my crazy head. Crazy? 
hmmmmmmm.... *scratches head*
	Please please please send me reviews of anything
related to Liz!
	Mulderisms, Scullyisms, Nicoleisms, Katieisms. Lizisms.
Tra lalalala...I'm bored out of my mind and want to get
muddy. Hey....could we have a mud fight at the LizPhest?
	Ohki...I'm starting to bore myself here. I shall jet off.

KaTiE  ();)
	"I was thinking that I might fly today," Jewel.

P.S. Please send me reviews!
	

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:51:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Craig King <cking4h@yahoo.com>
Subject: Please email me!

I was suprised how few responses I got for my request that everone on
the list emailing me a profile of them so that I can put it up on my
web page.  I still got about 10 people's profiles.  But that's not
enough.  I thought it was a great idea.  That way we could get to know
eachother a little bit better.  Plus it will be really handy for Liz
Fest.  That way we will all know at least SOMETHING about eachother 
Please, everyone on the list email me and answer a few simple
questions, and I will put it up on my page.  The questions:

Screen Name (Like a nickname or something, i.e. "The KingAdRock"):

Real Name:

Age:

Favorite Music Artists:

How you got into Liz:

Thats it.  Please email me with the answers, and I will put it up on
my site as kind of a reference guide.  A humble request I think.

Craig "The KingAdRock"  


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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:47:16 -0500
From: "Nicole W." <nweisber@emerald.tufts.edu>
Subject: Once you've left a lonely Nicole on her own...

Well I guess I grow.  Outward anyway.  My stomach I mean.  And thighs, and
arse.
	Anyway... i'm just bored.  Sitting in #wcse all alone.  Tried entertaining
myself for a while by making small talk in #xfiles, but left cuz it was
boring.  So WHERE ARE ALL YOU #wcse keteers?  "w-h-i-t-e... 'eee... what is
that on your ass?'  c-h-o-c-o-l-a-t-e 'eee... i have to find some sentence
that begins with eeee again?'  s-p-a-c-e-e-g-g..."  
	But wasn't that just the BEST episode of the x-files tonight?  At least
the best in a while.
WARNING: if you taped it and haven't seen it yet, or otherwise plan on
watching it, don't read until the next indented text.  
Anyway... all through the show I was so sad "I can't believe they killed
off Skinner."  Haha!  What a clever trick!  The problem is, I can't
remember what role Kryczek plays in the show, so the ending kind of left me
clueless.  See... I'm a newish x-file fan.  Still... I know I saw him last
season, but I can't remember what he did.  I mean I remember him having
something to do with that weird black cancerous shit?  Or those weird
aliens with their eyes sewn shut?  (haha... i just typed "shit" instead of
"shut."  Shows you where my vocab is.)
	So anyway, when I'm bored, support-system takes the hit.  Who else could I
write to??  
	No Liz... you haven't played a complete cover live before, but uhh...
"emotional rescue?"  Was thinkign about that in the car today when
listening to Pottymouth Girl.  hoo hoo hoohoo hoohoo hoooo... 

k fine... i'll end this post.
hey!  i'm a postergirl!  uhh...nevermind.
ugh school in two days.  NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

this album can be the instrument to mend a broken heart...
- -Nicole 

... or to straighten out your life... through the sincere testimony... in
the songs... of the revelaires.  A must!

p.s.  jase... how come wherever i sign my name in a post, there is always
an added "-"?  that's always amazed me.

	

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