From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V2 #3 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Monday, January 4 1999 Volume 02 : Number 003 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: support-system-digest V2 #2 ["keelyfish" ] session ramblings [LULU428@aol.com] Sessions: Liz sans heels, sans guitar ["April Haitsuka" ] real quick ["Chris DeLisle" ] of plausible absudities and abstruse simplicity [MrE ] Re: support-system-digest V2 #1 ["Alisha Heidbrink" ] European Lizcamp ? ["[bazille]" ] Sessions and Lizfest [AngelLieb@aol.com] Liz camp- for lack of a better name right now [Isha Leigh ] Hey laserlips, your mama is a snowblower ["Nicole W." ] various blather ["The Human Cannonball" ] Liz Phest ["Cynthia Nagle" ] Grammys, used WCSE, Lizfest [AngelLieb@aol.com] lizfest ["Jenny Sayler" ] more blather ["The Human Cannonball" ] Trial liz fest run in Dallas this weeken ["Jorge (George) Cooper" ] Casey Rice? - READ THIS ONE [Craig King ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 00:24:55 -0600 From: "keelyfish" Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #2 my interp of perfect world is a little different. i think she's herself the whole time. she's speaking to this boy who is one of those unattainable boys. what a pretty life... she's talking about his pretty life, as it were. money, perfectness and all home is very ordinary...she's talking about herself and her world and her duality of trying to fit in with his and having hers. i wanna be... okay, she's comparing herself to lucifer. by saying these things that she wants, she's saying she'd lose it. you know what i mean? that doesn't explain it like i'm thinking it in my head. i know the girls.... this is back to the boy's world again. you know, the "claire"s (from the breakfast club) the perfect girls with perfect lives and perfect worlds. the "mortal" is liz. the normal girl. I think of it as a John Hughesy-ish song. It's Pretty In Pink a la Liz Phair. Does that make any sense? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:36:10 EST From: LULU428@aol.com Subject: session ramblings Ugh, what a night! I go to my aunt's and totally forget to set the tape to tape liz tonight on sessions. so I leave her place at 11pm giving me plenty of time to get home to park slope from broadway and 11th. anyway, I get to the subway, find out 15min later that the stupid F train is not coming through broadway/lafayette and I now have to go up to w.4th and then get on the stupid F there. so I am still on the subway at 11:50 and I am pissed off at my bad luck. so i get out, run out of the station, the 4 blocks to my apt in the freezing cold sleet (yeah, the "winter storm" just started here in nyc). so I run in turn on the tv, its 12:02, and who is on burt bacharach and elvis costello. so I get online, and like 1 hr later, i finally find out when liz will actually be airing in NY, tomorrow night, channel 25 at 11:00pm with the lounge lizards so I guess each one is 1/2 hr. whew! I feel better now. I found the upcoming schedule on the sessions website- here is the address Click here: Sessions at West 54th this is for WNET 13 in New York, but you can probably get to the main site from here. So now I feel so much better knowing I did not miss it. and to add to that, next week is phish! which I should also assume is on sun as well. The past and upcoming sessions all look awesome- what great lineups they have! PJ harvey is in a few weeks as well as an hour long Tori Amos in Feb. I saw phish on nye, at msg and it was a fun show- not as good as last year or the year before but still was fun. I think a concert is a great way to spend the new year. They opened with 1999 and did an excellent rendition, sounding just like prince and sheila E (was it her on that song?)- so thats it for my ramblings, sorry you all had to hear about my subway troubles, but I needed to vent. I think I will add my input to the first record thread... I guess I would have to say that some of my first records that were actually my own, not my mom's were the old, old Olivia Newton John records. and juice newton (queen of hearts) remember her! My mom was big into music and had the record player stacked with records all the time. So I have no idea what was mine and what was hers. I know I had blondie really young too (like I told you all before). My uncle also got me Pink Floyd - dark side of the moon and the wall, both when I was in 2nd grade and I thought he was weird! I didnt actually really start listening to them until 7th grade. I do not remember my first tape, but my first cd was Journey Escape. Enjoy the crazy winter storm - wherever you may be- and be safe! Lani ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:15:42 -0800 From: "April Haitsuka" Subject: Sessions: Liz sans heels, sans guitar Hey everyone! I was watching Sessions and noticed that Liz kicked off her high heels towards the end of the set. She says something like "tyranny of the shoes." After that, she was bouncing around, having a good time with "What Makes You Happy" (though I'm not sure why she chose to sing the higher part in the chorus, since the lower part is the melody on the recording and seems more comfortable for her to sing). I know she's self-conscious about her 5'2"-going-on-6'1" height, but I think losing the heels helped. As for Liz sans guitar, I'm mixed on that. The Guyville songs strongly revolve around the guitar riffs, so when she doesn't play guitar on "Mesmerizing," it feels like we're missing an integral part of the performance. The WCSE songs showcase her more confident voice, so the guitar in the background isn't that big a deal. That was the first time I'd seen 6'1" played live, and I could only wish I could rock that song as hard as she does. April =-=-=-=-=-=-=-= April Haitsuka april@haitsuka.simplenet.com ELINA- How will we live? BILL- We'll get jobs. ELINA- Yes, we'll get jobs and be happy. BILL- No, we'll get jobs and pay the rent, we'll get credit cards and be happy. -- from "Theory of Achievement" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:41:02 -0500 From: "Chris DeLisle" Subject: cover song(s), etc. Hello everyone, First, to anyone I'm taping anything for, I'll get it out to you soon... Second, I was strolling through the Grand Tetriad of Rolling Stones albums the other night (that being "Beggars Banquet," "Let It Bleed," "Sticky Fingers" and "Exile On Main St."), and I think Liz could do a killer version of "Stray Cat Blues." It's one of the 2 Stones songs I HAVE to turn up to 11 (the other being "Can't You Hear Me Knocking?"). It's a bit racier than "I'm A Believer," and it'd be quite interesting hearing it come out of Liz's mouth rather than Mick's... Other possible interesting (?) choices: - -- "Don't Stand So Close To Me" by the Police, armed with only her microphone and her newfound vamping skills...every "school-boy's fan-ta-sy?" I'm not a schoolboy anymore, but... - -- "Fairytale of New York" by the Pogues, with special guest, Shane MacGowan! (honestly, who else could pull off that male vocal?) - -- "Kick Out the Jams" by the MC5....."and right now...(right now)...it's time to....KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHERFUCKER!" - -- and on a softer note, "Little Green" by Joni Mitchell, perhaps segueing right into "Perfect World" (a difficult transition?) - -- could she pull off Prince's "Baby I'm A Star?" maybe with a little more seasoning... - -- tell you what, though, I'd absolutely love to hear her cover that song "Jealousy" by, uh, Liz Phair And my I reiter-someone else's-ate: <> And a little thank U to Ruthie -- I can't wait to hear from you in England. Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:55:45 -0500 From: "Chris DeLisle" Subject: real quick Say, maybe we could get Winona Ryder and Christina Ricci to join us at camp...and Julia Roberts, if you're out there, the invitation's open to you... Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 00:44:24 -0800 From: MrE Subject: of plausible absudities and abstruse simplicity ...and when the little hand is on the eight it is eleven o'clock... well boys and girls, it was an astounding evening, an evening of magic in near apocalyptic proportion and yes, i did miss the 45th lizphair session at whatever, but no, this was not merely the happenstance of miscoherence for i had adequately prepared myself for the event, having checked with not one, not two, but three, yes three reputable sources of printed information with regard to the scheduling of televised entertainment and fine family viewing only to determine all three had suffered a momentary lapse of reason sufficient enough to have produced a veritable glut of misinformation pertinent to the continuity of my viewing pleasure and by extension the entirety of my life in having not merely misrepresented the facts but in fact having entered into a pogrom of DECEPTION, INVEIGLEMENT, and OBFUSCATION so deleterious and heinous as to border on treachery, and with malice aforethought assumed the identity of family members and certain close friends all the while knowing that could not sleep or the clowns would eat me! and how was your evening? >>- -Nicole >>what i if i just kept quoting worse and worse 80s hair bands? ...there are hair bands worse than whitesnake? i'm glad i can't remember the eighties. what was the question? oh yeah, they all screwed up the program scheduling...of course 'living the jungle' where 'things get worser every day' i could easily be mistaken for an east coaster. and besides, i did get to see two point five minutes of 'what makes you happy' when in my state of preparedness i checked to make sure i would have the right channel tuned in, and i did... cause i'm a freak-a superfreak MrE - -----------------------------------------------------------LYLE----------------------------------------------------------------- "Everyone who meets me, loves me. I am like a white knight in a group of dark circle friends." - ------------------------------------------------------MENENDEZ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 03:56:32 EST From: "Alisha Heidbrink" Subject: Re: support-system-digest V2 #1 Alrighty, Here is my reply to about the past week and a half worth of digests. To the Galaxie 500 posts, it is also a car made by Ford. I drove one over the summer for a couple months. It was a '66. As for the "Perfect World" posts, I always thought Lucifer had something to do with Liz becoming "Cool, tall, vulnerable and lucious." Like she was making a pact with the devil, or lucifer by one of his other names. If lucifer kept his mouth shut, she would be ok, no one would know she got her perfect world through a pact with the devil and then the man for whom she wanted to be all these things would be hers. The first tape I ever remember owning was Huey Lewis and the News. My first CD was Stone Temple Pirates Core and the first CD I remember from this year, that night is a little hazy mind you, was London Calling by the Clash. In my humble opinion, one of the greatest groups ever! About the I-69 thing. I can't say for sure whether or not it says east/west on the signs or north/south, but I do know that it goes by Marshall, down through Coldwater I think to Fort Wayne. I know that there were other things I wanted to say, but of course I can't remember them now. Well, everyone, have fun in the snow. It snowed all day here in Ann Arbor. I got out of work early because the roads were getting so bad and business was slow. Good thing too b/c I am sick and I was the only waitress who could make it to work. The other two were snowed in. so, be careful and have fun. Alisha ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 05:14:55 -0500 (EST) From: kiskos@webtv.net (Edward Kisko) Subject: re: Sessions, LizFest One equation: Liz - guitar = bad idea. Other thoughts: I was kinda disgusted with how simplified a lot of Liz's guitar playing was at various gigs this year, but check out the riff at the end of "Johnny Feelgood." Check out the action onstage (check out Liz, I mean) after the "and I hated you" part of 6'1": that is ROCK personified. And wow, for the first time in... years (?) you can *actually* hear Liz's guitar over everything else in the mix, instead of being *totally* drowned out. Kudos to the sound people at Sessions for finally raising the level of her guitar a notch. While I can see how a DuoSonic or a Musicmaster can't really give the *weight* they feel "Mesmerizing" needs nowadays, I just think the whole performing-sans-guitar thing blows. Still, the show was great, I thought Liz looked fabulous, the interview was nice, and I loved what D.B. had to say about her in the intro. LizFest should be the name of the camp thing. Chicago should be the place. Sorry to all you can't-leave-the-state people, but it just makes the *most* sense to have the "official" meeting place be Chicago, where those of us who've never been there can see Winnetka, the Metro, the Rainbo, and the rest of Wicker Park that we've been hearing so much about for the last few years. It's good to see that so many people are serious about it. If it does happen, everyone will have a great time. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 05:49:48 -0500 (EST) From: Syrup@concentric.net Subject: Re: sessions and Phair Fair ok, WHAT THE HELL?! after making all these plans to be at my parents' house to tape sessions, I end up getting bacharach/costello, too. just checked the listings for houston, and it appears that they are not going to air the liz sessions here (SON OF A...). looks like it will be shown again tonight (sunday) in NY though so hopefully I can get a friend there to tape it. argh. - -drew > Ok, I just checked out sessions now, and it's Burt Bacharach and Elvis > Costello. Ummmm.......HUH?!? Where's Liz? I'm so pissed! Did this happen to > anyone else, or is my tv just "special?" Uhhhhhh (that's a whining sound). I > was really looking forward to this! The only thing that's stopping me from > tearing my tv out of the wall in a crazy rage (aside from the logical monetary ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 05:13:18 -0600 From: "JZ" Subject: v a r i a Hello from a snowed-in Chicago. Do you think Liz had to shovel her own snow today? Anyway, I'm briefly coming out of lurkdom to share a few observations. 1. While it was nice to see Liz on TV very early Sunday morning, it was a little disappointing. For those of you actually present at the taping, did she play over an hour? Well, the general viewing audience only got 5 songs and 2 fairly lame interviews. Oh well, it's better than nothing I guess. 2a. I haven't seen anyone post about this, so...For those of you in the Chicago area, I'd be on the lookout for WXRT's "Sunday Night Concert" or "Eleventh Hour" sometime this year (hopefully it hasn't already occurred). The 2nd show at the Vic was sponsored by WXRT. As such, they taped most XRT sponsored shows, especially the smaller venues. Look for an edited version of the show to be broadcast at some point. 2b. There were also video cameras at the 2nd Vic Show (by the soundboard). Look for a possible JBTV (also Chicago area) broadcast - although I didn't see Jerry Bryant at the show or cameramen at the foot of the stage - as is usual with his show. Hopefully, it was JBTV and not Matador taping. 3. Again, at the 2nd show, did anybody catch Buddy play a little homage to Lenny Kravitz? During his lead in "Supernova" he played the riff to "Are You Gonna Go My Way?" I thought that was a nice touch. If you missed it, be sure to catch it when the Chicago shows are eventually tree'd. 4. A question for Boston-area folks. Were either of the 2 Boston radio shows 11/30-12/1 actually simulcast on those particular sponsoring stations? 5. An amusing story: Have any of you heard of a band out of Texas called "Old '97's?" Anyway, they're buds with friends of my sisters who are quasi-wicker parkers. Anyway, we went to see them about 3-4 years ago now, I believe. The amusing part is that they always (at that time anyway) put Liz' name on their guest list whenever they came to Chicago. Well, as our group is waiting to get in that night, my sister tells the guy that she's Liz Phair and she's on the guest list. The guy totally believed her and was waving her in until a coworker of theirs (now disavowed for other reasons) turned to my sister and said "you're not Liz Phair!" Well, my sister and the rest of us started laughing and blew it. Ok, so she then paid the cover. Anyway, if I ever meet Liz, at least I'll have an "amusing" anecdote to share with her. And she'l probably get in to Old '97's shows for free. 6. And yes, alan-ass does look like a chimp (someone here mentioned before that she looks like an ape. Funny thing is that Jim DeRogatis - a Chicago music critic - called her stage movements ape-like when he reviewed her club show at the Metro in late '98) and she should be opening for Liz. Jose' ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 15:19:37 +0100 From: "[bazille]" Subject: European Lizcamp ? Windy greetings from Germany ... ... reading the "Lizcamp"-post and its replies brought me to the question if all of the (living) people on this list are really living in North America or if there are some other Europeans, too. I mean why don't we put up Lizcamps not only in different American States but also in different countries ? Something like "Transglobal Phairing" ? yours, [bazille] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:25:56 EST From: AngelLieb@aol.com Subject: Sessions and Lizfest OMG! Wasn't she wonderful?! I couldn't go to sleep afterwards cuz it cranked my happy meter to high. But anyways, short on words, but I do have a smile that's up to the ceiling. I... I ....erg.....you get the idea I hope! ();) Garsh...I'm dying to see her in concert! Five songs on a little eeny beanie tv screen isn't good enough! Oh yeah, someone mentioned The Beatles Revolver. I personally believe that Taxman is the funniest song they have. I dunno. Hmmmm... "this is the end of the begining. Of the beginning......" <> Coolio too. Katie B. suggested having it at Disney World. But if that happens, expect me to be chasing after Mickey Mouse cuz I hate that creature! But anyways.....a really coolio idea came to my mind and I'm hitting myself on the head wondering why the hell I didn't mention this earlier! Is there going to be Lilith Fair '99? If so.....how about all of us meeting at a Lilith Fair Liz performs at? Hmmm...good? KaTiE ();) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 13:22:34 -0500 From: Isha Leigh Subject: Liz camp- for lack of a better name right now I was thinking (uh-oh) and it's sounding more and more like a good idea, something to look forward to in the summer. I think everyone interested should meet in one of the chat rooms and share our locations and get an idea of who should go where. I forgot which liz sites have their own little chats and I figured if everyone posted to the list we'd have some really boring digests. I was thinking we should meet in major cities to make transportation easier for the carless and try to choose lower end hotels since everything is so expensive when you go to a city people actually want to visit. Also, we should schedule them at different times so those who have excess money or parents who work for airlines, go to school near one and live near another, etc. can go to more than one. Another thought on the subject is that if Liz does Lilith again we can all go see her together and then hang out after the show and the cities will be chosen for us. I have too much time on my hands. I need to go back to school. We have to think of a better name for this liz camp. sessions - LI local info - channel 13 WNET 11 PM on Sunday ( NOW!) and Monday at midnight on WLIW 21. I'm making popcorn. Liz was also in the top ten of 98 for newsday's music critics (maybe they aren't worthless). There was a pic but i think it's one that's been around. Mr.E - Don't worry the tests came back negative. - ---melissa ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:00:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Stacey Wirt" Subject: [none] Hi everybody! Well, it took me a while to figure it out from the crappy tv guide, but I saw the sessions thing last night. Liz looked beautiful and she sounded great, but that host guy was strange. I'll try to tape an extra copy when it re-airs so that anyone who isn't able to see it can have a copy. - -Stacey ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:21:24 -0500 From: "Nicole W." Subject: Hey laserlips, your mama is a snowblower DARRIN: You have a fog machine? Why?? Well... whatever cranks your umm... crank? What is the noun that would be performing the action of a crank? You know? Anyway. If there was this Liz camp thing, would anyone mind if I brought along my ARSENIC and KNIFE collections? Oh and HOCKEY MASKS? How about my... (what are those midieval things called that consist of a handle with a spiky ball on the end?) To whoever was asking about psychos on the list, there aren't any... My dad wanted to watch sessions with me to see who this liz girl was. He kept talking to me during her interview segments, and it was really annoying. Oh well. I mean i taped it and all, but i wasn't in the mood to go and rewind it and find out what she said. So i stilld on't know. But he was like "what is it you like about her? Can you play guitar like that? could you learn that song?" And then he was like "all her songs kinda have the same beat, don't they?" And I was like "uhh... no. Iguess she's just playing fast songs alot." And a couple times he started doing this humming along bit. My dad is kind of a fogey, so he's really out of touch with music. I'm sure he meant well. Me... I thought liz got shafted. WHy couldn't they have had her on the whole hour? She's INFINITELY cooler than tori, who is getting an hour! And the songs that were chosen to be aired weren't... the best representation of liz. :( K this post is officially long, and I apologize. I'll save any other content for another time. Like in five minutes? Kidding. maybe. - -Nicole *some pot of gold it's just Nicole's gold teeth after a cleaning...* Okay so I only WISH I had gold teeth. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 16:06:11 -0800 (PST) From: Craig King Subject: My site & Sessions I can't believe it! I think they deleted my site, Phair Territory, from freeservers! I have to find a new home for my site, so it will be down for a little while. Hopefully I will find a new home before I leave for Florida on Thursday. I will let everyone know the new address once I get the site up and running again. Liz on Sessions was GREAT! Only two complaints. Liz should have had the whole hour. Who cares about the Lounge Lizards. Sorry if I offended any Lounge Lizard fans, but Liz deserved the whole hour. Plus the interviewer was a total freak I thought. Was he on drugs or something? He had no personality whatsoever. But Liz really did look great up there. She seemed so confident, and it really showed. She looked like she really having alot of fun. My vote for the best sounding song: What Makes You Happy. That song sounded so good live. Then again, all of the songs did. I want to see Liz live SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bad!!!! Craig "The KingAdRock" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Jan 99 19:40:41 PST From: "The Human Cannonball" Subject: various blather Hi folks - I just got caught up on all the digests that came during the holiday, and I have a few responses: 1. My first album: The Bay City Rollers Greatest Hits (1976). Please don't laugh. I was mocked mercilessly by my (older) sisters for this choice, which probably has a lot to do with why I outgrew it so quickly. It's not Milli Vanilli, but a definite candidate for most embarrassing first album. First album which I still listen to today: Electric Light Orchestra, "Out of the Blue" (1977) - Concerto for a Rainy Day, anyone? 2. Favorite Liz Phair lyric: (from "Chopsticks") "I told him that I was good to sixes but all hell broke loose after that." It's something liz does so well: mixing childish (a game of jacks, summer camp) and adult ("Chopsticks" is about a one-night stand, after all) themes. I also love the absurdity that "all hell" could break out in a game of jacks. 3. First album listened to in 1999: "Exile in Guyville." First album purchased in 1999: "Van Halen II" - I don't care what anybody says; without Dave, they're nothin'. 4. Some thoughts on Liz's appearance on "Sessions": a. Only 5 songs? Only half the show? I feel gypped. b. Her performance was great & she seemed to have fun doing it. Why couldn't she have the full hour? c. I'm putting my true-texan-indie-music-lover credibility at risk here, but the Lounge Lizards have never done it for me, and their performance on "Sessions" hasn't changed that one bit. Why couldn't liz have had the full hour? d. I'm glad she finally took off those shoes. I've always been somewhat disturbed by Liz's predilection for high heels. Whenever I see a woman wearing heels like that, my first thought is "that can't be good for her feet." Why couldn't liz have had the full hour? "That's just my opinion. I could be wrong." 'bye for now. - The Human Cannonball ************************************************************* "Beauty is a bikini wax and waiting for your nails to dry. Beauty is a colored pencil scribbled all around your eye Beauty is a pair of shoes that makes you wanna die" - FZ, "Beauty Knows No Pain" ************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 20:51:34 -0500 From: "Cynthia Nagle" Subject: Liz Phest Hi everybody... Boy, have I been surprised at the reaction to the Liz Camp idea! I suggested it only half-seriously, but since so many people are expressing sincere interest in it, it would be a shame to let it die... So here's what I suggest: I think we should do it in Chicago. If people in far-flung areas of the U.S. (and in Canada and other countries) want to do regional get-togethers, that would be great. But there should be a main get-together, for everyone who can, to try and shoot for - and Chicago makes the most sense. It's centrally located, easy to get to (via plane and car), and of course it's Liz's home town. If there's even a remote chance of Liz herself showing up, a la Jewelstock, then Chicago is the logical place. (Can you imagine? I would just pee my pants if we could get Liz to come! But if she's not out on tour, why not try for it?) We should do this in the summer. July 9-10-11 (Fri. thru Sun.) is ideal. In my half-joking musings, I really did imagine everyone camping out in tents, with a central campfire, etc. (if you've never camped out before, you owe it to yourself to try it. I can't believe how many people I meet that have never camped out in a tent before!) However, if this is not realistic and/or feasible, we can find some other accommodations that won't break everyone's wallets. (Uh, I'm NOT talking the YMCA here...!) I'm going to check with a Chicago friend of mine to see what he suggests. And those of you who live in the Chicago area, let's hear from you! Are there parks that allow camping, that are within a reasonable distance of Chicago/O'Hare airport? If not, what alternatives are there? And those of you who attended this Jewelstock get-together (or something similar), can you provide more details on the logistics? I can't believe that my little musing is taking on a life of its own. But for now at least, everyone who's able - mark July 9-10-11 tentatively on your calendars. I'm assuming we're limiting this event to support system list members and their friends (ie., not people from other Liz lists, or "open to the public," etc.) And finally, to coalesce all the names we've been calling it, let's settle on one: Liz Phest. I think I'm starting to get excited about this...! Cindy "Well look at me, I'm frightening" MYSELF, with actually being serious about this! ;^) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 20:56:46 EST From: AngelLieb@aol.com Subject: Grammys, used WCSE, Lizfest Now why didn't I post this earlier?! Garsh dammit! I'm such an airhead! Anyways Grammy nominations will be announced on Tuesday, January 5. Gee...who are we hoping that will get nominated. Oh well... Today I was at my fave used cd store and what did I find? Not one, but TWO copies of WCSE in the used section! My gosh! I was about to scream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sigh...those people must have bad tastes or something! Sigh.....I still the idea of going to Lizfest at a Lilith Fair rocks. Imagine all of us there cheering her on. That would make her so happy. Sigh..... Ohki! My list of words that I use too often cuz it's bugging the crap out of me! Spaceeggy, ohki, sigh....whatever, anyways, oh well. And I see that Pottymouth Girl is starting to slip into my vocabulary with my best friend. Sykes darnit! KaTiE ();) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:04:28 -0600 From: "Jenny Sayler" Subject: lizfest Hey all!! Whats up?? I have been reading all this stuff about the lizfest, or as I like to call it, the fuck-n-run-a-thon. Anyways, its just too cool of an idea!! I was gonna save money to follow the lilith fair around again this summer, but it would be just as well spent on this lizfest!! I like the idea about having one on each coast and one in the middle, but if I just went to an eastern one, I would miss out on seeing MrE and whoever else doesnt live around here. HOwever, I am not rolling in dough, so I will settle for whatever I can get. At any rate, I will get to meet spaceeggy Katie and the Dark Side of the Moon dude. I think this would be awesome. Hellooooo out there Matador/backup singers/whoever dont you all think that was neat how JEWEL played a special concert??? Dont you think it would be soooo cooooool if LIZ would do this???? (especially since I feel like I am getting a little jipped on this WCSE tour thing) **Jenny does an innocent, very sweet smile** Just a thought! Well take care all!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jenny "I'll have just one more cigarette before I get myself to bed" - Jen Trynin- http://www.liz-phair.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Jan 99 22:45:52 PST From: "The Human Cannonball" Subject: more blather I feel I must issue a correction to my last post. "Exile in Guyville" was NOT in fact the first album I listened to in 1999. Actually, it was The Cars first album, which my wife & I listened to at about 1am whilst drunkenly celebrating our 10th anniversary. "Exile" was listened to upon waking, about 11am. I'm sorry for the inconvenience this error has caused anybody. Speaking of "Exile": I have been searching in vain for Pussy Galore's "Exile on Main Street". Does anybody know where I can find a copy? Or is anyone willing to dub a copy for me? In v2#2, Brian Carnichael wrote: >Meredith Robbins in V2 #1: >"On an unrelated ice hockey note, the Washington Capitals are currently >getting stomped by the Ottawa Senators. I am sad." >I am sad because the Edmonton Oilers are currently being stomped by everyone. I am happy because the Dallas Stars are currently skating all over everyone they meet. Obligatory Liz Phair content: uhhh . . . Liz Phair Rocks! - bye for now The Human Cannonball ******************************************************** "Free your mind & your ass will follow" - Funkadelic ******************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:01:00 +0000 From: "Jorge (George) Cooper" Subject: Trial liz fest run in Dallas this weeken Hey Liz farmers, 1) List veterans all know Steve Kisko from Pennsylvania. But you may not know his sad and touching story that will soon be made into a made-for-TV movie starring John Cusak and Parker Posey. Well, Steve bought a ticket to come to Dallas to see Liz and she postponed and you know the rest of that much-debated scenario. Anyway, the ticket's going to go bad, like fruit if you leave it on top of the refrigerator too long (personal experience). As they say, if you don't use it, you lose it (personal experience). So, Steve is coming to Dallas this weekend!!! 2) I'm going to show him around Dallas and I thought we might do a mini-trial-run of Cindy's great Liz camp idea. By the way, Cindy, I was raised by Catholics, not wolves. And my nickname was Monk in high school. Good call. Cindy, thanks for the tight pants tip. Should they also be sock-enhanced? I love the Kinks too, saw them once. 3) Anyway, back to Steve, we thought we might get a few people together for dinner Saturday night, Jan. 9. I know this is sudden, but so is MrE. Steve's bringing 2 video bootlegs, some Liz memorabilia, and an expectation of having a good time in Texas. I've got pressure here, ladies and germs. It would be very cool if some of you locals joined us for dinner Saturday. Email me if you want to do something Saturday or even if you have suggestions of cool places to go. 4) I like Chuck's suggestion of Chicago for the Liz love-in. Call me selfish, but can we see a Cubs game too. I've never been to Wrigley Field. 5) Amy S., you can manage being a part of a Liz and a Jewel list in one lifetime? Jason, is that even allowed? Jewelstock looked like a lot of fun. How did you stumble on her? I became a fan about 2 months before she went global. Amy, what topics do the Jewel people talk about? I'm guessing that the topics are totally different. Is it as rowdy as Jason's list? Do they have bad boys like MrE ? Are other people on this list on other lists? You have time? 6) Speaking of MrE, one of us is on heavy medication because I haven't understood your last 5 posts. Is that even English? I thought for sure you would have an entertaining story of the sexiest rock performance you've witnessed. Are you holding back? Don't get shy on us now....... Jorge in Dallas ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:04:09 -0800 (PST) From: Craig King Subject: Casey Rice? I think this may have been discussed before, but...what happened to Liz working with Cayer Rice? I thought I had heard that Liz had a falling out with him. Is this true? Does anyone know the circumstances behind this? He seemed to be really cool, and I really enjoyed his guitar work on EIG and WS. If anyone knows anything, please let me know. Craig "The KingAdRock" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:07:30 -0800 (PST) From: Craig King Subject: Casey Rice? - READ THIS ONE They last message had spelling errors in it, but...... I think this may have been discussed before, but...what happened to Liz working with Casey Rice? I thought I had heard that Liz had a falling out with him. Is this true? Does anyone know the circumstances behind this? He seemed to be really cool, and I really enjoyed his guitar work on EIG and WS. If anyone knows anything, please let me know. Craig "The KingAdRock" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V2 #3 **********************************