From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V1 #131 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Tuesday, December 29 1998 Volume 01 : Number 131 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Galaxie 500 (or, Jacqui's return from the Dead) [PhishenGal@aol.com] Not me, paraphernalia of interest ["Nicole W." ] Liz in The Horse Whisperer ["Raffel, Mantra" ] Re: support-system-digest V1 #130 [thetick23@juno.com (james w barcus III] RE: support-system-digest V1 #114 ["Connolly, Michael EMC RSG" ] galaxy 500 ["Jennifer Sayler" ] cooling down after the holiday storm [Mike Marlatt ] random liz thoughts ["Stacey Wirt" ] OHMYGAWD! [AngelLieb@aol.com] That darn screen saver [AngelLieb@aol.com] I know I have worn my mother's shoes out ["Nicole W." ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 01:23:49 EST From: PhishenGal@aol.com Subject: Galaxie 500 (or, Jacqui's return from the Dead) Hello, it's been at least 3 months since I posted, but here goes: Galaxie 500 was a band, I think either it was started by a bunch of Harvard students OR it had Dean Wareham (of Luna) in it... Still waiting for a Liz show in Florida! Jacqui ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 01:44:48 -0500 From: "Nicole W." Subject: Not me, paraphernalia of interest Katie: that person in the picture with the two rings isn't me. I only wear one ring. Plus it's just...not me. :) I have finally scanned my prized posession: The handwritten lyrics that Liz wrote to "alison" and "i'm a believer." Find it on my site @ http://www.angelfire.com/ca/DontWalk/paraphernalia.html. - -Nicole I Spy a May Queen http://www.angelfire.com/ca/DontWalk And hell, everyone else is using Ruthie's signature file; I think I will too! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Mulder, I'd kiss you if you weren't so damn ugly" "And all the stars up in Heaven were rushed by an angel to see the light in your face better" ~~Liz Phair~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 03:26:34 EST From: Ruthie1013@aol.com Subject: various stuff hey all... its been a while since i've posted, but the end of the semester SUCKED!!! and then i had to pack up all my shit (and i have a rather considerable amount of shit) cause i'm studying abroad next semester, and i leave for london in 6 days!!!! crazy, isn't it? so.... to whomever asked about a galaxy 500 video,... galaxy 500 is a band... a video is one of their videos sorry... i've spent the past 5 hours trying to get my nice new-to-me notebook computer to work, and i still cant send messages thru netscape. moving on... nicole, as i have already told you, you crack me up i hate twizzles, by the way hmmm... lets talk a little about sigs. sigs are personal.. they say a little something about a person.. i miss my sig(s) when i am using my aol account, cause we still can't have sigs :-p anyways, when someone very obviously takes something from yout sig, its a little offensive. and rude. and i dont' like it. 'nuff said, i think... finally, i am working on a grand alanis/liz/snobbery extravaganza of a post. hopefully it will be out before i leave. g'night all.. its waaaay past my bedtime... (:ruthie:) ***********Deceive*************Inveigle************Obsfuscate*************** "Wild and unwise, I wanna be mesmerizing, too" "Mulder, I'd kiss you if you weren't so damn ugly" "I'd like to say it was great while it lasted, but I won't lie" "What's the matter with the truth did i offend your ears" (the quickly typed conglomerations of various ruthie sigs past...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 03:30:33 EST From: Ruthie1013@aol.com Subject: "glory" boot sorry for the repost but.... from what i have gathered, this "glory" bootleg appears to be a copy of the 4/25/95 town hall nyc show (which i was supposed to attend, but my mother refused to let me go at the last minute.... i was a little annoyed...) thanks to a certain wonderful guy we all know and love, and i have a new and improved copy of this show on tape, in its entirety. previously, only a cut-off version was available.... it started about half way thru "never said" and missed "6'1"" entirely. the quality of that tape was pretty good, although the tape i have now is much better... so if you've found it on cd, i guess its up to you whether or not to pick it up. if you want it on a tape, well, i would make you a copy, but seeing as how i leaving the country, and my stereo is all packed up... anyways, its a really good show, in any event... okay, i think i'm done now.. and i'm not retyping my sig (:ruthie:) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:42:30 EST From: LULU428@aol.com Subject: liz pix In a message dated 12/28/98 1:17:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-support- system-digest@smoe.org writes: << Is that you on the right side of the picture of Liz by herself with some guy in the background? There's some girl with two really coolio rings on and a nice smile, but the face is cut off. hmmmm... >> thats me! Lani ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:42:15 -0500 From: "Raffel, Mantra" Subject: Jukebox, Lyrics? My 2 cents for the 3 jukebox songs: 1) Fuck and Run 2) What Makes You Happy 3) Stratford-on-Guy I think Fuck and Run would get the crowd warmed up (who doesn't like a little blatant profanity every now and then). Plus, the song was practically my anthem in college. Next, What Makes You Happy is my new anthem. I love the line "Don't worry mom, I met him in a restaurant and all this time I've been getting to know him." It's such a blatant lie- as in pretending you DIDN'T meet him in a bar and you DIDN'T hook up with him right away. The top it all off with Stratford-on-Guy- one of my very favorites for both the tune and the lyrics. A silly question- Anyone know what Liz means by "In the last strings of sunlight, a Brigitte Bardot"? I always thought it referred to a sort of glamorous pose she might be in, or a glamorous feeling she was having, in reference to the whole movie imagery of the song. Then I thought maybe I was reading into it too much and there was a drink called a "Brigitte Bardot" (that the stewardess was checking on?) Any thoughts? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:52:50 -0500 From: "Raffel, Mantra" Subject: Liz in The Horse Whisperer Another quick post- I was watching the Horse Whisperer while home for the holidays. In the beginning, when the two girls are riding their horses (right before the accident) they are singing the beginning of Chopsticks: "I met him at a party and he told me how to drive him home He said he liked to do it backwards..." and then the horses start to slip and fall. I just thought it was interesting. Mantra p.s. You can just watch the first 10 minutes of the movie to hear the song- the other couple hours of the movie were pretty ho-hum) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:49:36 -0500 From: thetick23@juno.com (james w barcus III) Subject: Re: support-system-digest V1 #130 >OK, now for my next liz phair question: What is "a galaxie 500 >video"? (as in, "And I was >pretending that I was in galaxie 500 video"). Stratford-on-guy is one >of my favorite >songs but I never know what this means! Galaxie 500 is a band. They share some of the same band members as Luna. They've been compared to the Velvet Underground by music critics. I'm not sure, but i think they broke up. >first record: ummmm . . . the play-along-while-you-read record to my >snow white book >first tape: depeche mode--violator >first cd: new order--republic >first favorite album: the afghan whigs--gentleman My first record was a play along to Hansel and Gredal. My first tape was Depeche Mode's Violator. My first cd though was R.E.M.'s Lifes Rich Pageant. Which, after 8 1/2 years is still my favorite. Bury magnets. Swallow the rapture. Don't look into the Sun ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:20:16 -0500 From: "Connolly, Michael EMC RSG" Subject: RE: support-system-digest V1 #114 Catching up on past digests (been on vacation). Sorry for the randomness, but it couldn't be helped. >Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:59:49 -0600 (SSD #114) > > I always seem to be reminded of that great old Go-Gos song "Our Lips Are > Sealed" (also covered in a much darker brooding version by Fun Boy > Three) where the lyric is: Not to be picky, but FB3 recorded the song first - it just never was released in the US until after the GoGos put out _Beauty And The Beat_. The song was written by Jane Weidlin and Terry somebody-or-other, a member of FB3. >Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:37:49 PST (SSD #117) >From: "Chipko Arnold" >Best gigs of the year... >1. R.E.M. - Grand Hotel, Stockholm Wasn't this the one where Stipe was performing with a hernia? >Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 08:04:05 -0500 (EST) (SSD #119) >From: James Michael Draper Jr >maybe it's just me, but i've assumed it was the road. like she's >going west on I-69. but i don't know if that goes west. which is >lame because i live in michigan and I-69 goes thru here, i think >it goes southwest like toward chicago from here but i don't >know which way it continues. US Interstate road numbers *generally* are odd (like I-69) going north to south, and even (I-80) going east to west. (as presviously stated by someone else who wasn't on vacation for the past two weeks). And I've always thought the reference was to sex. You know, a quick head break while driving. >Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:14:30 -0500 (SSD #119) >From: Vasant Ramamurthy >Subject: Liz to open for Alanis (yuck!) >Alanis Morissette >The 33-city U.S. tour, the venues of which have not yet been released, will >feature opening sets from Chicago-based singer/songwriter Liz Phair on > the first eight dates and, later, electronica rockers Garbage for the >remaining 25 dates. Just more proof that God is an iron. Two of those shows are close enough for me to hit. And I will see one of them. I think two quotes from Our Phair Lady can put this into perspective. Just substitute fans for friends: "It's nice to be liked, but it's better by far to be paid I know that most of my friends would never see it that way." --- and----- "Well look at me I'm frightening my friends." >Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:15:26 -0500 (SSD #121) >From: Jason Long > >One thing I'm kind of curious about is the rather obvious borrow from The >Beatles' "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" that Liz makes in "Fantasize." >The liner notes offer no credit to the source, and I wonder how Liz managed >to pull that off. The Malcolm McLaren thing was credited and it's a little >more obscure; the Beatles, however, everyone knows. But Jase, it's only one snippet. The quasi-legal definition of co-writing, when it comes to the case of borrowed lyrics, more-or-less is the length of 8 bars (or maybe six - not a lawyer, not a songwriter, just something I remember reading awhile back.) In "Whip Smart", it was the whole damn chorus. >Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 03:24:13 -0500 >From: Jason Long >Subject: Replies, part two >Put another dime in the jukebox, baby, First Nick Gilder, and now The Flirts? Jason, be careful, or people will be sending you tickets to the Men At Work tour. >From: "Mark Schmidt" >Subject: Russian Girl/Hot Child In the City/80s > >Incidentally, I'm starting to feel pretty old and left out around here. >Am I in the tiny minority of people who actually remember the Iran >hostage crisis? And the Challenger explosion? And, god forbid, a >little bit of the SEVENTIES? You all are too young and hip for me, with >your P.J. Harvey and your marijuana-enhanced meditations on Liz. Mark, pull up a chair at the Old Guy's (non-gender specific, mind you) table here in the back of the Hall. I'll save you a seat. And after the concert we're gonna watch "Times Square" and "Urgh! A Music War" on BETA. As for the Challenger explosion, I was thawing out some frozen shore power cables on the fo'c'sle of the USS Mississippi when someone stuck their head out the hatch and told me to get to a TV quick. And on a related note: >On Wed, 23 Dec 1998 Dermich@aol.com wrote: > We should start a new thread: what was the first album you bought for > yourself? Hard to remember that far back, but I'm pretty sure it was The Monkees _Golden Hits_ on COLGEM Records. Still have it, too. It's only six years or so younger than me. First 8-track was _Bat Out Of Hell_, played it on an FM converter/8-track player in my 70 Chevelle. To this day, "Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad" STILL fades, clicks than comes back up in volume in my mind when I hear it. First concert: Beach Boys Pgh Civic Arena Spirit of America tour First single "Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia" Vicki :Lawrence or "Do It Again" Steely Dan - can't remember for sure. First CD: Alex Chilton _Stuff_ -- about four years BEFORE I even owned a CD player. >Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 00:09:18 -0800 (SSD #127) >From: Brian Carmichael >Subject: Some thoughts... > >I was having a discussion with a co-worker yesterday about this very >subject and only wish I could have articulated it this well. While I am not >diehard against Alanis, (I have mild dislike / indifference) my friend >tried to tell me that because Jagged Little Pill sold 28 million albums and >Exile sold 500 thousand, (I think) that Alanis was obviously more talented >and deserving of this success. The old "greater sales means greater talent argument." Reminds me of what Bruce Hornsby said at the Grammys (the year after he got Best New Artist) when Milli Vanilli won theirs: "If this is the best new band, I'm giving my statue back." >From: Craig King >Subject: stupid question > >Does anyone know the name of a video that was played on the 120 >minutes episode that Liz was on a few months ago. The name of the >band is the John Spencer Blues Explosion. I remember that Liz >commented that she loved the video. I need to know the name of the >song because I really liked it and I want to get the CD. Their new CD is _Acme_, on Matador of course. Can't remember the specific video, but I'm sure it was from that CD. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:17:43 PST From: "Amy Blue" Subject: Spice Girls/Fiona Apple Hello All, I just wanted to reply to the person who said that they liked the Spice Girls. Well, dammit, I like 'em too. I think that they're lots of fun to jam to and I just like them. At first I was all like, "What a bunch of fucks!", but after a while I got into them. You can't really help but start dancing around like a fool and singing along. And hey, who am I to judge? 'Cause I'm no better than they are. And you BETTER believe I would dance around and sing those songs and dress like they do(I absolutely love they way they dress)for as much money as they make. I would embarrass the smack out of myself and I'd be happy doing it for all that money baby:) As far as Fiona goes, I think she gets a bad rep. I can understand why people maybe don't like her and think she's a brat and a bitch but when I read what happened to her as a kid, I can totally see why she's fucked up. I like her a lot. I agree with what she has to say and I think that a lot of it gets misinterpreted in the press and, yes, sometimes she does have a funny(or weird)way of saying what she thinks but that's why I love her. I like that she's fucked up and admits it. She's honest and crazy. And above all, her music is great. She some of the songs of Tidal she wrote when she was 15 or 16. I know that I could not write songs like she wrote at my age(15). Her songs are beautiful and you can jam to some of them and you can cry to some of them. I think songs like 'Sleep To Dream' and 'Never Is a Promise' are classics. Same with 'The First Taste'. And to think that she wrote them when she was 15; it's crazy but good. Kinda gives ya hope. I don't see how she did it. Just goes to show us young ones are fucked up too:) But I do respect any one who doesn't like her or the Spice Girls. Hugs, *Rollergirl* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:24:46 -0600 From: "Jennifer Sayler" Subject: galaxy 500 is there a group called galaxy 500? This is what I have always thought ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jenny "All the fear has left me now, I'm not frightened anymore" - Sarah McLachlan- http://www.liz-phair.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:24:32 -0500 From: Mike Marlatt Subject: cooling down after the holiday storm I read the postings at Matador. I must admit that the comment that Matador made about it only being a couple of weeks is a pretty good one. It's not like she's investing her future with Alanis, she's just rolling the dice for a couple of weeks. Perhaps even taking advantage of Alanis. I got the impression that it would be an ongoing summer tour kind of thing but if it's just a couple of weeks I could see myself sleeping again at night. Still, to throw another Alanis bash in, i was thinking what if I could ask Alanis one question what would it be....... and it would be "how can you look at yourself in the mirror as an intelligent human being and then attempt to pass off the situations in the song "Ironic" as examples of Irony (because none of them are)..... I just want to get this off my chest so I'll try and be quick. "It's like rain on your wedding day"- this is not ironic. It's unfortunate (or if you live in Seattle/Vancouver, it's typical). If you flew your entire wedding party to the dryest spot on earth because you didn't want it to rain on your wedding day...and then it did rain...that would also be unfortunate but it would be ironic as well. that whole song is littered with things that are not ironic. The entire song is a misinterpretation of a literary device. HOW COULD SOMEONE PULL A STUNT LIKE THIS AND GET AWAY WITH IT IN THE MASS MEDIA? It's just a little more proof that the masses are a little slow. truly 2 cents worth. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:13:10 EST From: MangoHula@aol.com Subject: galaxie 500 stacey--galaxie 500 is a band. not just any band but a great band. the members included Dean Wareham (now of luna), Naomi Young, and Damon Krukowski (who now make up Damon & Naomi). A Galaxie 500 is also a car but the context of her lyrics obviously refer to the band. If you see a video you will know the exact imagry she is referring to. (I gave liz a couple of extra stars by her name when i heard that line b/c after all luna and g500 are two of my favourite bands.) ~lynda ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:20:58 -0500 (EST) From: baggy trousers Subject: our lips are sealed On Mon, 28 Dec 1998, Connolly, Michael EMC RSG wrote: > Not to be picky, but FB3 recorded the song first - it just never was > released in the US until after the GoGos put out _Beauty And The Beat_. > The song was written by Jane Weidlin and Terry somebody-or-other, a member > of FB3. > it was terry hall...he used to be in the specials as well and then went onto funboy 3, coulourfield and solo work..its a bit weird to watch the video for 'dont speak' by no doubt and see terry hall just sitting there on the swing throughout the video....no doubt a wee hats off to him for inspiring them..too bad you dont hear that much about him over here anymore.. funboy 3 used to do stuff with bananarama as well :) i do prefer the fb3 version of our lips are sealed to the gogo's version though.. i was just thinking the other day that if alanis does come to florida on tour ( i would think that she'd at least hit tampa or orlando) it would be just my luck that garbage open for her..nothing against garbage as i do love them a lot, but i figure it would just end up that liz does northern dates or something...im figuring that they'll play the ice palace...ive only seen depeche mode there and it was alright but ive heard so many people complain about the acoustics...anyone here have an opinion on that? i was listening to a mix tape i made a while ago the other day in the car and i had put fuck and run on there which happens to be one of my favourite liz songs....normally i would listen to it with no problems but my mum happened to be in the car so as soon as the song before finished my hand shot out to fastforward it..my mum is used to me doing that with songs that have 'sweary words in them' or are somewhat questionable..i just dont ever see myself being comfortable listening to some songs in front of my parents no matter what age i am...my sister used to make fun of liz as well when i put her on any mix tapes because my sister claims that she cant sing...i think its just that she has a voice that most people can hit or sing along with..does that make any sort of sense? umm..enough rambling for now roberta **oh you look so tired + "Rock'n'roll is the most brutal, mouth slack and wide + ugly, vicious form of expression - ill-housed and ill-advised + sly, lewd, in fact plain dirty..a your face is as mean as + rancid-smelling aphrodisiac..the your life has been + martial music of every delinquent crash into my arms + on the face of the earth..." i want you****** + -'jack the ripper' (morrissey) + -Frank Sinatra 1957 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:49:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Stacey Wirt" Subject: random liz thoughts Hey all! I had a random liz thought pop into my head today: Liz sold charcoal drawings before her music career started, right? wouldn't it be amazing if someone found one of these drawings? Hmmmmm..... Chris: Thanks for the detailed explanation of galaxie 500!! I had a feeling it was a reference to a band but I wasn't sure.....now I know! Julie: if you're lookin' for the liz phair book and you don't want to look on the internet (if you do, I think amazon.com has it), I'm not sure if a place like Barnes and Noble would have it (although, they might). You can usually go into any medium to small sized bookstore and order it for no extra charge. I work in a bookstore part-time and that's usually the policy. - -Stacey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 21:23:24 EST From: AngelLieb@aol.com Subject: OHMYGAWD! OHMYGAWD! I'm having a blast here at West 54th! In fact...I'm speechless and out of breath just for the excitement! I've already watched the short video clip of her performing Polyester Bride and there's a wav of her singing What Makes You Happy. There's also videos of her interviews, along with the text of it. Now I'm waiting for my screen saver, which is downloading. Check it out for yourselves! http://www.sessionsatwest54th.com/jan2/sessions.html Eagerly awaiting for the screen saver to be done downloading. Katie ():D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:41:51 EST From: AngelLieb@aol.com Subject: That darn screen saver OH well....it was an hour ago, downloaded about three times and no luck. Can anyone help me? My mom is such a worry wart and I'd hate to ask her for the fifth time. AAAArrrrrgh! Too many random thoughts running through my head now! I just realized that my mom doesn't own five Tamagotchis, she owns SIX! Truly frightening to me. And then, my brother comes home with the news that Rob Thomas (of Matchbox 20) was at the movie theater I work at and that he's a tub of lard or something and parked in the handicapped spacing and went to see Bug's Life and that all the girls went gaga over him. Hmmm...I shall call my friend who was working tonight. Oh yeah. Stacey: <> I know what you're talking about. I have a tape of this and it's good quality. I can make a copy if ya like. Must do something more creative! Katie ();) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:47:00 -0500 From: "Nicole W." Subject: I know I have worn my mother's shoes out Sorry about the topic. I'm listening to Only Son and I have Weird Al tendencies. Anyway, my mom's shoes are like... 3.5 sizes too small for me (well... it's not that odd... I was adopted.) Anyway... someone already probably responded to the post about New Trier High School, but hey! Who says redundancy doesn't exist! They wouldn't have made up the word if it wasn't meant to be used *sometimes*. So... yes... Liz graduated from there, and Julie/JJewelBaby, if you want to know something about Liz's background, I'd suggest doing one of the following, but preferably both: Go to Ken Lee's website, Mesmerizing, at...uhh... http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/2471/ because he has TONS of articles there, or read the term paper I wrote last year about Liz, at http://www.angelfire.com/ca/DontWalk/lizpapercover.html. Anyway, my opinion about the fact that it is a tough school and this and that and you think Liz would have been brainwashed is that, no, it would have made her rebel more against what they were telling her. She seems to have a strong will of her own, no, and I think I remember her parents as being pretty liberal in terms of their methods of childrearing. But I can DEFINITELY see where songs such as hers would come out of a strict and tough schooling. And yes, she went to college at Oberlin in Ohio somewhere. I don't know, although I should, if she graduated. Hmm. Anyway... enough of my shtuff. I always remember this one post about someone's dream that "Girls! Girls! Girls!" was playing in the background of an X-Files episode. Everytime i hear that song or watch x-files, I think about it. And my little rearrangement of the lyrics. I think my rearrangement was great, not to be cocky. Think about it. Its' great! Perfect! "I get away... almost every day... with what the girls call... Mulder" That's all. - -Nicole ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:52:46 -0500 From: Jason Long Subject: Bounced message From: Brian Wolf Subject: Re: support-system-digest V1 #129 I live in Chicago and am a die-hard Liz fan. reading all the dream show pairings, I remembered a great liz show at the Metro in May of 94: Freakwater opening followed by veruca salt and Liz closing. WOW. Anyway, I hav equite a few friends who are big Liz fans and though you may appreciate knowing some of the places where we have spotted Liz in Chicago -- 1. Cafe Du Midi (now called meritage) on damen Ave 2. She guest DJ-d (very cool) at Delilah's on Lincoln Ave at least once 3. Urbis orbis on North & damen (now closed but Liz was spotted here several times) 4. The Empty Bottle (Western & Augusta)-- to those who don't know the EB, it is the best "underground" music venue in Chicago -- also a good place to spot local music celebs -- I have sighted Liz, Billy Corgan, Steve Albini, Louise Post, Nina Gordon, James Iha and others here from time to time. 5. The Double Door (North/Milwaukee/Damen) 6. Eating breakfast at the Bongo Room on Milwaukee Ave. - -- Brian Wolf ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V1 #131 ************************************