From: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org (support-system-digest) To: support-system-digest@smoe.org Subject: support-system-digest V1 #128 Reply-To: support-system@smoe.org Sender: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-support-system-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk support-system-digest Saturday, December 26 1998 Volume 01 : Number 128 Today's Subjects: ----------------- 3 Songs.../other artists [Dan ] ho ho this baby [MrE ] Yeah, I'm a Blondie fan too [Greg Bishop ] Re: support-system-digest V1 #127 ["Nicole W." ] potential liz sightings ["Stacey Wirt" ] Best of '98 [Vasant Ramamurthy ] twizzlers ["Nicole W." ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 01:48:09 -0500 From: Dan Subject: 3 Songs.../other artists Al wrote: >Anyway, you have only 1 dollar to use and 1 dollar will get you three >plays. So get out your dollar and select the 3 songs you would play from >Liz and keep in mind the atmosphere of the bar in which you are in >(whatever it may be). Damn, this is fun...mine would be... 1. Don't Have Time 2. Crater Lake (3. Thank U India - (JUST KIDDING!!!! that was obnoxious..sorry..) #3. - POlyester Bride... I picture being in my favorite bar (Windsor people will be familiar with The Coach/Pogo's/The Loop) - a really mellow type, laid back night,that still plays real rock songs sometimes, just sitting at the table with friends and a never ending pitcher of beer..."I was talking not 2 days ago to a certain bartender..." damn, now I wanna go out! at any rate...someone also asked a question to all the Natalie Merchant/Tori Amos/Sara M people...if they hold a special place in their heart as Liz does in ours... What a silly question! of course they do! I mean, everyone has a favorite singer..Liz Phair is mine by a long shot..my number 2 favorite band (TOadies) still barely holds a candle to Liz and her effect on me. But of course, every singer I am sure, has a certain thrilling effect on different people - I have friends who are put into a total trance when they pop in a Tori Amos album...and nearly all my friends will pop in "Fumbling Towards Ecstacy" by Sarah M and just go Gaga over it...and I sit there kinda like.."I don't get it..sorry.." but for them, they don't always get how wild I go over Liz...I can totally *see* how someone could be effected by Tori/ALanis/Natalie MErchant/Ani diFranco etc...only because I am soo effected by Liz, when someone is that passionate about an artist, all I can do is respect it. They obviously see some attraction or have some attatchment to it that I cannot understand...something i may have missed, or perhaps it is just worded differently..but i think they feel the same way we do about liz...it's kinda like, who scares ya more, Stephen King, Edgar Allan Poe, or H.P. Lovecraft...you know? wording is everything, not to mention a cool ass upper lip :) Dan. **************************************************** "Crash and burn, all the stars explode tonight." -Hole. **************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 23:49:01 -0800 From: MrE Subject: ho ho this baby >> >>"Cockroaches outnumber humans by a<< >>margin of many thousand fold. Alanis fans<< >>may take note that numbers alone<< >>do not in and of themselves denote a higher life form."<< >> this is just an awesome fn quote that could be applied to a great number of mainstream flock mentality issues...thank you brian! >> >>"God bless us all everyone," Tiny Tim.<< >> ...ah, didn't he recently tiptoe through the tulips and break on through to the otherside, as in mortum? and right before he was to release a christmas album last year...i love christmas tunes covered by the freaks (of which i am one, SO PLEASE KEEP THE ERRANT, ACCUSATORY RAMBLING REPLIES IN YOUR SKULL!). first 45- either white rabbit by the airplane or white room by cream first album-either the first monkees lp of the stones lp released around that time...it was so freekin long ago that brian jones was still alive-i haven't always been this old. i was once a younger child than i am now... first 8-track...alice cooper's love it to death. first song that really somehow impressed my young and infertile mind was 'maggie may'...hey! rod was hip once, not for long, but size doesn't matter does it? and blondie is, was, and will remain "ATOMIC"...one of my way favorite tunes... MERRY FN CHRISTMAS from the dog MrE - ----------------------KURT-------------------------- "I like guns. I just enjoy shooting them." (early 94) - ---------------------COBAIN------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 02:03:22 -0700 (MST) From: Greg Bishop Subject: Yeah, I'm a Blondie fan too I was /am such a Blondie fan that I actually have VINYL BOOTLEGS of live stuff, outtakes, unreleased songs, and interviews. My favorite album was "Plastic Letters." (You have that one Jase?) I never got to see them live because I was too young to go to concerts when they were touring. (Also, they never came to San Diego.) My first concert experience was DEVO, believe it or not. I was driving around today with a friend and wondered aloud why I like Liz. I really coudn't think of a concerte reason. Perhaps if I figure it out, I'll stop being a fan. Eh, probably not. I know that I liked Blondie because they seemed to not really care what people or the record industry thought, they just did their thing. Hey, if Debbie Harry and Chris Stein could come up with a song like "Attack of the Giant Ants" do you think they really gave much of a shit about anything normal? In junior high/ high school that's what I thought I thought about the world. (The double phrase was intentional.) By the way, if you're a teenager and aren't depressed most of the time, you're going to be a BORING adult, guaranteed. Greg B. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 12:57:34 -0500 From: "Nicole W." Subject: Re: support-system-digest V1 #127 >Finally, KB said that she was driving on LSD and thought that Liz's condo was >there. On LSD? Just curious, because I thought she lived farther in. In >Lincoln Park. Just wondering. It took me a while to figure out that whoever wrote this wasn't talking about LSD the drug. What threw me was the third sentence, about living farther in. Know what I'm saying? Anyway... The other day, out of curiosity, since I was on the subject of the song "Go West," I tried e-mailing the webmaster of a Soul Asylum website asking if there was a song that had any line like "Take it from someone who's been there before and go west, young man" and they never responded. Maybe I should try someone new. Hmm. Still in pain from the damned wisdom teeth extraction, Nicole ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 13:18:16 -0600 From: "Jennifer Sayler" Subject: Liz's sense of humor and my first album "2) She has a sick sense of humor" I like this. I have a copy of the Whats up Matador video, in which liz answers several questions about being famous with the words "uh huh...yeah" and "no, not really". I think she is doing this to make fun of this lame video that her record company was making her do. It also looked like she was trying not to smile while she was doing it. Anyways, I like Liz's sense of humor, as it reminds me of my own. Also, I know that the first CD I got was when I was 12 and got my first CD player and it was Cathy Dennis. I dont even know who this is, but I guess my dad thought I liked her, whatever. Anyways, I dont know the first album that I actually paid for, but the first tape I had that I always listened to was Whitney Houston, the one with the song "I wanna dance with somebody". Yeah......I was cool. Anways, I was also a fan of Tiffany and Debbie Gibson. I really didnt get into music thought until about middle school I guess. I think it is interesting that I porbably have the biggest and nicest stereo on my hall. Most of the other girls have just boom boxes or those stereos that have tape, receiver and CD player all attached (that is what I used to have) but now I have a bug component stereo, which takes up a lot of space in my little dorm room, so you can see where my priorities are. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jenny "All the fear has left me now, I'm not frightened anymore" - Sarah McLachlan- http://www.liz-phair.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 16:03:47 PST From: "DarkSide oftheMoon" Subject: stuffed with food a couple of things I wanted to respond to.... >If Liz does become huge, I guess for some people, part of the magic >will be lost. Many people like the fact that she's our secret. We're >the ones in the know, we don't want to let "them" (the >masses) in. I'm not sure how I feel about this myself, but there's >still something I don't quite like about the idea of Liz becoming >popular. Yes part of the magic would be lost. Sometimes its lonely being a Liz fan in my house..but it makes me feel special and unique (like I'm not left- of -center already!)in the fact that when I'm listening to her music, its different than listening to any other group. In fact it's not just listening..its experiencing, feeling it, like shes performing just for me. That'sI love playing guitar along with her music..Like I will ever jam with her (i Wish!) I don't want her to get Madonna or even Jewel size..let her stay comfortably/relatively unknown and be accessible to us (the stories you all write about meeting her after the shows and talking and photos with her is so inspirational it makes me smile) and play small venues. Ken - thanks for the tape listing, I can't wait to listen to them (I hope I'm one of the Florida Five who sent their money in..the stamp I put on the envelope with gasket sealer cuz i couldn't find any glue so I hope it got there w/o the stamp falling off - if it didn't e-mail me please) to eric c and others who are curious about guitar tabs/chords for Liz Liz guitar tabs - http://www.btinternet.com/~gez.gtr/liz.html On-Line Guitar Archive (OLGA) - http://www.olga.net Guitar Picks - http://www.bestware.net/davem/search.html Harmony Central - http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/tab.html Anyway I hope all have a merry xmas (yes we are in shorts here in Florida, very nice) All i want for xmas is - Get Liz to play Florida new years resolution - Get Liz to play Florida The following is my humble opinion and not meant to piss anyone off but if it does so sorry: As far as Liz opening for Alanis, I've been to many concerts where I didn't care for the opening or closing act. My advice is to go to see her and stay to see Alanis. I can take her or leave her but Jagged Little Pill is a good album. Any chance to see Liz is a golden opportunity....you people kill me saying you're not going because of ticket prices and/or you don't like Alanis. If its really that bad/painful you can always leave but be there for Liz - we owe her that much, at least that's the way I feel. You may be dead tomorrow - go for it today. 'nuff said.......... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 20:42:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Stacey Wirt" Subject: potential liz sightings Hey all! I've been watching a lot of tv during my winter vacation and it occured to me that Liz would be the perfect celebrity to put on some of these MTV and VH1 shows.... Here's my list so far: on MTV... 1. biorhythm 2. fanatic -(hey! all of you with video cameras can make this one happen!) 3. celebrity deathmatch (she'd win, of course) on VH1... 1. behind the music -- she's probably not a big enough star for this one, but it's nice to dream. 2. storytellers -- you know, that unplugged concert thing that VH1 does; they just had REM and sheryl crow on there recently. 3. it wouldn't kill them to play one of her videos during those "women first" blocks that they always do. Well, there you have it. I spend entirely too much time watching MTV. Anyone else have suggestions for liz appearances? Stacey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 21:03:43 -0600 (CST) From: Vasant Ramamurthy Subject: Best of '98 Ok, so I didn't buy too many new discs in 1998, but here is my humble top 10 list of albums I liked very much: 1. Versus - 2 Cents Plus Tax - blows me away every time; my new favorite band 2. Liz Phair - Whitechocolatespaceegg - absolutely magnificent 3. Garbage - Version 2.0 - so much better than their debut; every song is excellent 4. Pere Ubu - Terminal Tower - ok, so it's a reissue, but it's been out of print for ages, and it's about freakin time people start listening to pere ubu 5. The Pixies - At the BBC - you can't go wrong with anything from the pixies 6. Scrawl - Nature Film - good mix of old and new stuff; too bad they get treated like shit by record companies 7. Pearl Jam - Yield - another great disc from PJ 8. Frank Black - FB+Catholics - going back to basics sure works wonders 9. Tuscadero - My Way or the Highway - more mature and polished than the pink album, but still just as fun 10. Son Volt - Wide Swing Tremolo - i decided to give country-rock a try, and enjoyed this album greatly Honorable Mention: U2 - Best of 1980-1990 - all the best songs on 1 CD, that's all i need Biggest Disappointments: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore, R.E.M. - Up New albums I'm still dying to hear: Cat Power, Lucinda Williams, Bob Mould Vasant - ----- vramamur@artsci.wustl.edu http://vasant.tsx.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 23:12:24 -0500 From: "Nicole W." Subject: twizzlers Today i ate alot of twizzlers at the movies, and noticed no difference in my state of mind. Nor did I notice any sort of... addiction forming. Hmm. Nor did I feel enlightened to the definition of spaceeggy. Guess I'll keep trying. - -Nicole ------------------------------ End of support-system-digest V1 #128 ************************************