From: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org (stillpt-digest) To: stillpt-digest@smoe.org Subject: stillpt-digest V5 #86 Reply-To: stillpt@smoe.org Sender: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk stillpt-digest Tuesday, May 13 2003 Volume 05 : Number 086 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Angel renewed, moving to Wednesdays, Spike in and Cordy out. [meredit] here's what joss' next show should be ... [meredith ] Re: Angel renewed, moving to Wednesdays, Spike in and Cordy out. ["Berni] Re: Angel renewed, moving to Wednesdays, Spike in and Cordy out. ["Susa] Re: Angel renewed, moving to Wednesdays, Spike in and Cordy out. [meredit] Re: Angel renewed, moving to Wednesdays, Spike in and Cordy out. ["jzitt] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 20:02:20 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Angel renewed, moving to Wednesdays, Spike in and Cordy out. Hi, This is great news!!! Though I do have to make one cynical retort: >While >"Angel" isn't a particularly expensive skein to >produce, it doesn't do very well in repeats, making it >tougher for the Frog to turn a profit on the show. Um ... have they *ever* repeated _Angel_?! They usually schedule a different show entirely when they don't have a new episode of _Angel_ to air, don't they? Also, it's interesting that Charisma Carpenter won't be back as a regular. One wonders just what's going on there. But it'll be fascinating to have Spike and Angel together! As much as they hate each other, I'm sure it's going to be massively entertaining. Incidentally, SMG and David Boreanaz share the cover of the issue of TV GUIDE that just hit the stores today. =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 20:21:22 -0400 From: meredith Subject: here's what joss' next show should be ... Hi, So the other night I dreamed the next Mutant Enemy production. It starred the cast of _Firefly_ (minus Gina Torres; I think my subconscious wants her back on _Alias_ playing Sidney's erstwhile nemesis Anna Espinoza) plus Eliza Dushku. It took place in outer space, though not in the _Firefly_ universe. Eliza's character had somehow ended up on the ship, where the _Firefly_ cast was holed up in one section. It wasn't entirely clear whether or not they were supposed to be there -- I got the impression they were stowing away, but had managed to make themselves useful enough not to be noticed. The ship was huge and round, a cross between the Babylon 5 station and the ship from _Space 1999_. Inside was basically empty, and even though the ship rotated it didn't generate a lot of gravity, just enough to keep crewmembers from floating too far away from the bulkhead while they were trying to work at one of the consoles there. (Hey, my subconscious did even worse in physics class than my conscious did, ok? ;) The _Firefly_ gang found Eliza floating around stunned in their section of the ship. Turns out she was from Earth, and had been going somewhere on a transport with her family when something happened and next thing she knew there she was, on the ship. Kaylee told her "don't worry, we'll get you home" and went to a comm console she'd hacked into, where she tapped into a garbled communication coming into the ship. Eliza looked at it and said "that's my dad!" Before I could figure out which side of the wormhole her dad was on, the alarm went off and that was that. :/ I think it would've made a good pilot, though -- the gang comes together and resolves to help this lost person from a part of the galaxy they've never heard of before get home. I seem to recall something about the gang deciding to take over the ship in order to enable this. (Yeah, I know ... _Farscape_, anyone? But it would've been cool! :) =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 18:52:56 -0700 From: "Berni Phillips" Subject: Re: Angel renewed, moving to Wednesdays, Spike in and Cordy out. From: "meredith" > > Also, it's interesting that Charisma Carpenter won't be back as a > regular. One wonders just what's going on there. Maybe she wants to spend time at home with her baby. Cordy's gotten boring to me. I'll be glad to have a break from her. > But it'll be fascinating > to have Spike and Angel together! As much as they hate each other, I'm > sure it's going to be massively entertaining. Oh, yeah. Angel's not the only vampire with a soul any more. Spike's just like him -- but different. I was thinking the other day, before they were vampires, I think that Spike/William was a much better person than Angel/Ian?(I forget what his human name was). Angel as a human really was pathetic. I wonder if ensouled vampire Spike will surpass Angel. Berni ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 21:28:40 -0600 From: "Susan Kroupa" Subject: Re: Angel renewed, moving to Wednesdays, Spike in and Cordy out. I'm happy to hear that Angel has been renewed. But my take on Spike being on the show (besides the fact he's always a welcome addition) is that it means Buffy will end up without either of them. Sue, who's hopeless romantic even when she knows better... P.S. But I'm tired of Cordelia these days, too. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Berni Phillips" To: Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 7:52 PM Subject: Re: Angel renewed, moving to Wednesdays, Spike in and Cordy out. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 00:06:41 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Angel renewed, moving to Wednesdays, Spike in and Cordy out. Hi, >I'm happy to hear that Angel has been renewed. But my take on Spike being >on the show (besides the fact he's always a welcome addition) is that it >means Buffy will end up without either of them. Well, FWIW a friend of mine went to the Buffy con in Chicago over the weekend, where James Marsters was a featured guest. When asked point-blank if he's going to be on _Angel_ next year, he said he didn't know, and couldn't know for a little while because he won't know until the rest of us which of the several endings they shot for the finale will be the one that actually gets aired. (!) Assuming Marsters wasn't just dissembling, it sounds like Joss wants _Buffy_'s ending to be a surprise for *everyone* involved! =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 03:29:40 -0400 From: "jzitt@metatronpress.com" Subject: Re: Angel renewed, moving to Wednesdays, Spike in and Cordy out. One thing I'm wondering: do I recall correctly a prophecy that Buffy will be the *last* Slayer? If so, I wonder if she will get punted somehow into the distant future (post-Fray?). They're going to have to do something to get her off the chessboard, as it were, as well as answering the question of whether Faith carries on, one of the Potentials succeeds her, the line stops, or we go for what's behind door number three. I also wonder, if the Slayer line continues, how future Watchers will be trained. For that matter, have they ever talked about how people become Watchers? Is it also a Destiny thing? I also wonder if something will happen to the Buffyverse reality and their memories of the whole demons-'n'-vamps thing. I would have guessed that the show might end with a rewind, but that would be counterindicated, at least for any simple way, by the continuing story of Angel (and Spike). I had another odd Buffy-related dream last night, though it wasn't of watching the show. In it, I had been given the task of writing a Buffy episode that would reconcile the changing image of demons across the seven years of the show by introducing something that accounted for an actual gradual change in the Buffyverse itself (akin to the incarnation of Dawn and the tweaking of reality to account for her). But I was panicking because I couldn't come up with anything. And I reeeeeeally hope they deploy Dawn, in her key-ey glowiness, in the conclusion of the show. Her existence has been too glaring an unresolved plot thread to leave hanging. And I hope they find some way to end Cordelia's story, better than leaving her in a permanent coma. Come to think of it, was she even on set for any of the recent episodes? She's been so inert that her part could have been played by a mannikin with a lifemask. Original Message: - ----------------- From: Susan Kroupa skroupa@attbi.com Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 21:28:40 -0600 To: stillpt@smoe.org Subject: Re: Angel renewed, moving to Wednesdays, Spike in and Cordy out. I'm happy to hear that Angel has been renewed. But my take on Spike being on the show (besides the fact he's always a welcome addition) is that it means Buffy will end up without either of them. Sue, who's hopeless romantic even when she knows better... P.S. But I'm tired of Cordelia these days, too. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ End of stillpt-digest V5 #86 ****************************