From: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org (stillpt-digest) To: stillpt-digest@smoe.org Subject: stillpt-digest V5 #80 Reply-To: stillpt@smoe.org Sender: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk stillpt-digest Wednesday, May 7 2003 Volume 05 : Number 080 Today's Subjects: ----------------- b/&philosophy ["Donald G. Keller" ] Re: b/&philosophy ["marty" ] Re: b/Buffy book canceled [Joseph Zitt ] Re: b/&philosophy [Joseph Zitt ] Re: b/Buffy book canceled ["Berni Phillips" ] Re: b/&philosophy ["Berni Phillips" ] Re: b/&philosophy [Todd Huff ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 07:38:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald G. Keller" Subject: b/&philosophy It's more than supremely odd: it means I actually =am= living in a fantasy world. Because I am holding in my hand (actually, I just put it down because I can't hold it and type at the same time) a copy of =Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Philosophy: Fear and Trembling in Sunnydale=, edited by James South, Chicago: Open Court 2003, Volume 4 in the Series, Popular Culture and Philosophy [not my punctuation, thank you], Series Editor: Wiliam Irwin. On a tip from my daughter, I wandered into Borders and plucked a copy off the front table (New Paperbacks). The last time I was in Barnes & Noble they had it, too (in the Philosophy section, to be exact). Seriously, I suspect a glitch with Amazon rather than a cancellation of the book. There are a raft of books on =Buffy= in the works, and I expect that the end of the show (a complete text to analyze!) will increase the volume rather than decrease it. New episode tonight, remember... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 05:36:56 -0700 From: "marty" Subject: Re: b/&philosophy Is the book worth searching for? Is it worth reading? > It's more than supremely odd: it means I actually =am= living in a fantasy > world. Because I am holding in my hand (actually, I just put it down > because I can't hold it and type at the same time) a copy of =Buffy the > Vampire Slayer and Philosophy: Fear and Trembling in Sunnydale=, edited by > James South, Chicago: Open Court 2003, Volume 4 in the Series, Popular > Culture and Philosophy [not my punctuation, thank you], Series Editor: > Wiliam Irwin. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 14:20:29 -0700 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: b/Buffy book canceled Berni Phillips wrote: >I had pre-ordered the book, James B. South (Editor) "Buffy the Vampire Slayer >and Philosophy: Fear and Trembling in Sunnydale (Popular Culture and >Philosophy Series)," from Amazon. I just got an e-mail from them saying it >will not be released. Bummer. > Damn... then I must have hallucinated the copy that I read and the several that we have on our store's shelves. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 14:45:56 -0700 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: b/&philosophy marty wrote: >Is the book worth searching for? Is it worth reading? > I enjoyed it. It has some good introductions to philosophy for Buffy fans, and vice versa. One article that especially struck me was on the fascist implications of the Slayer myth and how Buffy works within it. Though I have a feeling that the end of last week's episode addresses that to some extent and pokes against it. Something that struck me again while reading the book is the difficulty of stating much conclusively about vampires and demons in the Buffyverse, since their depiction has been changing steadily over the years. At first it seemed rather like a vampire was a demon inhabiting a host body; as shown now, the vampire is clearly the same person, changed by the conversion. All demons used to be irredeemably evil, but now there are even cuddly ones like Clem. But one issue that I recall coming up frequently is the way that the demons are everywhere in town, including driving cars out on the street (Clem last week) and having bars that everyone knows about, and the city has a high body count, but noone seems to notice. BTW, the mass exodus from Sunnydale last week struck me as quite odd -- there was no public event that I noticed that would have kicked the people and other demons into getting out of town. That people were noticing and acting on it without such an event seemed quite anomalous. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 17:20:01 -0700 From: "Berni Phillips" Subject: Re: b/Buffy book canceled From: "Joseph Zitt" > Berni Phillips wrote: > > >I had pre-ordered the book, James B. South (Editor) "Buffy the Vampire Slayer > >and Philosophy: Fear and Trembling in Sunnydale (Popular Culture and > >Philosophy Series)," from Amazon. I just got an e-mail from them saying it > >will not be released. Bummer. > > > Damn... then I must have hallucinated the copy that I read and the > several that we have on our store's shelves. I want one! (Hubby dear, are you reading this? Our wedding anniversary's next month, you know, but our meeting anniversary is in just a few weeks. This would make a fine gift!) Berni ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 17:23:28 -0700 From: "Berni Phillips" Subject: Re: b/&philosophy From: "Joseph Zitt" > > BTW, the mass exodus from Sunnydale last week struck me as quite odd -- > there was no public event that I noticed that would have kicked the > people and other demons into getting out of town. That people were > noticing and acting on it without such an event seemed quite anomalous. I thought so, too. Another thing, from the previous episode, was the principal firing Buffy and saying it was so she could concentrate on her real work. Hello? Got a house full of potential slayers to feed! Where's the money coming from? I thought he could have kept her on the payroll so she could pay bills. Of course, now that most folks have left town, a little looting from the stores will be easy. Berni ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 18:28:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Huff Subject: Re: b/&philosophy > BTW, the mass exodus from Sunnydale last week struck > me as quite odd -- > there was no public event that I noticed that would > have kicked the > people and other demons into getting out of town. > That people were > noticing and acting on it without such an event > seemed quite anomalous. I think it's the Hellmouth acting up again, and the locals are sensitive enough to realize it. Was it Faith that talked about the police who beat her getting "all Hellmouthy"? . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. 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