From: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org (stillpt-digest) To: stillpt-digest@smoe.org Subject: stillpt-digest V4 #155 Reply-To: stillpt@smoe.org Sender: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk stillpt-digest Thursday, October 24 2002 Volume 04 : Number 155 Today's Subjects: ----------------- b/anya/1 ["Donald G. Keller" ] Re: b/ Aud Sang Lines... ["Berni Phillips" ] Re: b/ Aud Sang Lines... [meredith ] f/firefly night at the ballpark [meredith ] Re: b/ Aud Sang Lines... [Joseph Zitt ] Re: b/ Aud Sang Lines... [Joseph Zitt ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 09:30:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald G. Keller" Subject: b/anya/1 My brief comment, before I fall asleep after an overnight shift, is that the scene between Buffy and Xander--with Willow kibitzing--is one of the very best in the whole history of the show. (I also really liked Xander's line "Or...") I'll elaborate anon. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:23:23 -0700 From: "Berni Phillips" Subject: Re: b/ Aud Sang Lines... From: "Joseph Zitt" I like your punny title. The real title, according to our daily paper, was "Selfless." > Spoiler space... > > s > r > u > o > v > e > d > > t > i > > u > o > y > > h > t > a > e > n > e > b > > m > o > r > f > Good character interaction, and a whole lot of fun things too, like the > "old film" scratches in the scene where Aud meets D'Hoffryn. Yes, I noticed the scratches, too. I laughed through that whole sequence. ("She has the load-bearing hips of a Baltic woman. You have the hips of a Baltic woman from a slightly less arid region." Of course, the load-bearing hips woman would have been "better" in those days -- the load to bear was a baby to birth and a mother with a better survival chance.) So, is this why Anya's so afraid of bunnies? Because they were all over the house she shared with Olaf when she learned of his fooling around and she became a vengeance demon? Very interesting, too, is what we learn of Anya (of Aud, which of course sounds like "odd"). That bluntness and literalness is part of her essential human nature, not a result of her being a demon for 1200 years as Xander has always led us to believe. She also had selfless (there's that title!) instincts in wanting to give away the bunnies rather than sell them -- until Olaf laughed at her. Nice to see, too, that Willow has a struggle in front of her and will be working on dealing with her dark side. Good to see the writers didn't forget that D'Hoffryn had given Willow a talisman to contact him. And best of all, seeing Willow going back to school Was that red outfit she was wearing meant to echo all the blood she found in the frat house? >The song > was OK, but not up to the ones in the musical (did Joss write this one, > or David Fury?). Yup. It also sounded to me like Marti Noxon when Anya opens the door and you hear more of the mustard song (a man and woman singing). "The Parking Ticket" is one of my favorite tracks on the Buffy CD, so I think I can recognize Noxon's singing voice at this point. >It did address one question I had, which was where Anya > got the last name Jenkins -- she called herself the future "Mrs Anya > Lame-ass-made-up-maiden-name Harris". Oh, is that what she sang? I couldn't make it out. I thought she had a string of middle names. This is much funnier. > But I *so* wanted Anya and Xander not to walk away from each other at > the end... Me, too! Berni ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:56:31 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: b/ Aud Sang Lines... Hi, Now that I've had some time to recover... Joe noted: >Spoiler space... > >s >r >u >o >v >e >d > >t >i > >u >o >y > >h >t >a >e >n >e >b > >m >o >r >f > > >Ow, another powerfully depressing Buffy. The death at the end came as a >complete surprise (though made perfect sense in retrospect) and hurt >more than expected for such a fairly minor character. And yet, for such a powerfully depressing episode, it had a *ton* of laugh-out-loud moments. I was on the floor for all of the scenes in Sweden, and D'Hoffryn had the line of the season so far in the middle of Buffy and Anya's fight: "Breathtaking. It's as though someone slaughtered the Abercrombie and Fitch catalog." (Incidentally, immediately after he said that, eagle-eyed viewers were treated to a full-on view of Buffycrack. Check the tape, right as she's getting up off the floor. The hazards of low-rise jeans. :}) Buffy and Anya's fight, incidentally, was one of the better ones of recent memory. >And it hit me that "Jenkins" is a >pretty reasonable name to derive from "Anyanka". Eh?! I have no idea what your logic is there. >But I *so* wanted Anya and Xander not to walk away from each other at >the end... Oh, yes!!! Xander was the one doing the walking away, but I wanted Anya to follow him. Berni posted: >So, is this why Anya's so afraid of bunnies? Because they were all over the >house she shared with Olaf when she learned of his fooling around and she >became a vengeance demon? I'm not sure about that. I was thinking when they showed Anya/Aud with a bunny in her hand that we would finally see what traumatic event made her afraid of bunnies, but it never came. Maybe it got left on the cutting room floor? >Nice to see, too, that Willow has a struggle in front of her and will be >working on dealing with her dark side. Yes. Interesting how her eyes went all black when she snapped at the girl in the closet! >Good to see the writers didn't >forget that D'Hoffryn had given Willow a talisman to contact him. There was all sorts of continuity in this episode. The talisman, Buffy's "Angel" speech ... >And best of all, seeing Willow going back to school Where did the episode's opening scene take place? Was Willow moving back into the dorm? It seemed that way, but then it seemed like they were in Buffy's house still. I couldn't tell. >Was that red outfit she was >wearing meant to echo all the blood she found in the frat house? I would think so. It's just the sort of thing a costume designer would zero in on. (Just like the Buffy of Spike's hallucination was wearing white, then the Buffy of real life came striding in dressed in all black.) >Yup. It also sounded to me like Marti Noxon when Anya opens the door and >you hear more of the mustard song (a man and woman singing). It was. I read somewhere in an interview with Marti Noxon that she had to go back into the studio for an encore. I'm guessing they had Emma Caulfield go back into the studio for this episode as well -- the new song was much too germaine to this week's plot to be a cutting-room scene from the musical. (One stray thought I just had -- was this episode #6 of the season? Wasn't the musical episode #6 of last season?) Don briefly commented: >My brief comment, before I fall asleep after an overnight shift, is that >the scene between Buffy and Xander--with Willow kibitzing--is one of the >very best in the whole history of the show. Agreed. Just to refresh my memory -- Xander and Willow already knew that Buffy had sent Angel to hell, right? It's just that Buffy and Willow didn't know Xander had lied. (I was wishing for some more fallout from that revelation -- Willow just sat there. I suppose there's been so much water under the bridge since that it might not matter, but one would expect more than just a "I never said-" from Willow. Maybe it'll come up in a quiet moment between Willow and Xander sometime later.) I look forward to your more detailed comments on this scene. I'm not sure whether or not I agree with Buffy's "I am the law" declaration... ============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth ============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org ============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 22:59:15 -0400 From: meredith Subject: f/firefly night at the ballpark Hi, So every year during the World Series, FOX sits the stars of its shows in prime seats behind the home dugout, and makes a point of pointing the camera at them repeatedly. Tonight must be _Firefly_ night -- so far I've seen Mal and the Companion (I have *got* to learn those characters' names!), and during the "Fan Cam" feature they played the _Firefly_ theme in the background. I've also seen several promos for the show in between innings. I hope this means that FOX has finally decided to back the show a bit ... ============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth ============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org ============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 00:02:36 -0700 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: b/ Aud Sang Lines... On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:23:23 -0700 "Berni Phillips" wrote: > >It did address one question I had, which was where Anya > > got the last name Jenkins -- she called herself the future "Mrs Anya > > Lame-ass-made-up-maiden-name Harris". > > Oh, is that what she sang? I couldn't make it out. I thought she had > a string of middle names. This is much funnier. IIRC, she sang a list of middle names early on, but when it came around again sang about the maiden name. (Gotta get a VCR again one of these days...) - -- | josephzitt@josephzitt.com http://www.josephzitt.com/ | | http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt/ http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt/ | | GPG: A4224EFA 558B 4948 3D8A F338 5B2E DA4D 40EF 8290 A422 4EFA | | == New book: Surprise Me with Beauty: the Music of Human Systems == | | Comma / Gray Code Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 00:05:13 -0700 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: b/ Aud Sang Lines... On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:56:31 -0400 meredith wrote: > >And it hit me that "Jenkins" is a > >pretty reasonable name to derive from "Anyanka". > > Eh?! I have no idea what your logic is there. Working from the syllable "yank" in "Anyanka" to the syllable "Jenk" in "Jenkins". - -- | josephzitt@josephzitt.com http://www.josephzitt.com/ | | http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt/ http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt/ | | GPG: A4224EFA 558B 4948 3D8A F338 5B2E DA4D 40EF 8290 A422 4EFA | | == New book: Surprise Me with Beauty: the Music of Human Systems == | | Comma / Gray Code Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ End of stillpt-digest V4 #155 *****************************