From: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org (stillpt-digest) To: stillpt-digest@smoe.org Subject: stillpt-digest V4 #152 Reply-To: stillpt@smoe.org Sender: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk stillpt-digest Saturday, October 19 2002 Volume 04 : Number 152 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: b/same time... ["Berni Phillips" ] Re: b/same time... [Joseph Zitt ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:51:48 -0700 From: "Berni Phillips" Subject: Re: b/same time... From: "Donald G. Keller" I deleted the spoiler space, figuring folks have all seen it now. David and I just got back last night from our trip to Italy so we've been off-line. > Probably =the= most disgusting demon ever. (Played by one of the > Gentlemen, by the way.) Ah. He reminded me of the Gentlemen in his manner. That's why. Also reminiscent of the child-killing demon in the hospital in season 2(?). > Very good use of Anya this episode. Interesting interplay between Anya and > Willow, seeming to come to a hesitant understanding. (Another big laugh: > Willow saying "quick like a....really quick.") Yes. I thought it was nice parallelism and set up for next week's episode when we see how Anya first became a vengeance demon. I think she's going to quit the demon biz or be fired again. I also laughed at the "quick like a....really quick." > (So did Willow's spell fade because she had been > humbledby a taste of her own medicine--flaying--as someone on another > list has said, or--my idea--because she realized her friends were there > for her, and she was therefore ready to see them?) Definitely the latter, I think. I picked up pretty early on that she had subconsciously done a spell to make her invisible to them and vice versa. It seemed the only reasonable explanation. > Question: was the demon invisible? I couldn't tell if people could see him > or not. (Anya could.) Which reminds me that my first thought about the "no > see-ums" (as Buffy put it) was that demons (Anya and Spike) could see > Willow, but humans couldn't. Turned out to be more interesting. I think the demon was really, really fast so you only saw him at rest. It wasn't that only demons could see Willow, it was that the people she was closest to and had hurt the most could not. I think everyone could see her but Buffy, Xander, and Dawn. We know she's never had warm fuzzy feelings for Anya, demon or human. Berni ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 20:06:40 -0700 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: b/same time... On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:51:48 -0700 "Berni Phillips" wrote: > It wasn't that only demons could see Willow, it was that the people > she was closest to and had hurt the most could not. I think everyone > could see her but Buffy, Xander, and Dawn. We know she's never had > warm fuzzy feelings for Anya, demon or human. But they apparently could occupy the same physical space in the differing realities. What would Anya have seen if Buffy and Willow had stood at the same place (or overlapping places)? Maybe I should recite the mantra "It's only a TV show..." - -- | josephzitt@josephzitt.com http://www.josephzitt.com/ | | http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt/ http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt/ | | GPG: A4224EFA 558B 4948 3D8A F338 5B2E DA4D 40EF 8290 A422 4EFA | | == New book: Surprise Me with Beauty: the Music of Human Systems == | | Comma / Gray Code Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ End of stillpt-digest V4 #152 *****************************