From: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org (stillpt-digest) To: stillpt-digest@smoe.org Subject: stillpt-digest V4 #65 Reply-To: stillpt@smoe.org Sender: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk stillpt-digest Sunday, May 12 2002 Volume 04 : Number 065 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: a/Double or Nothing ["Marta Grabien" ] Re: a/Double or Nothing [Joseph Zitt ] Whedon Interview - Buffy may be better next year (fwd) ["Donald G. Kelle] Re: Whedon Interview - Buffy may be better next year (fwd) [meredith ] Re: a/Double or Nothing ["Berni Phillips" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 07:21:33 -0700 From: "Marta Grabien" Subject: Re: a/Double or Nothing > The BIG disappointment for me in the episode featuring Cordy's return > was her HAIR! What was Charisma thinking??? It was already too short, > and no WAY does fake blonde suit her!! As my daughter in law pointed out, she is Mexican for gods sakes. Her coloring should be dark hair. I doubt that it was her choice tho. Everyone in the cast seems to be going blonder, or in SMG's case, darker. I suspect it =might= have something to do with thier characters moods, but I don't know. Anya should be darker too. Of course it might be that she was doing a movie that demanded lighter hair. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 10:41:28 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: a/Double or Nothing On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 07:21:33AM -0700, Marta Grabien wrote: > As my daughter in law pointed out, she is Mexican for gods sakes. Her > coloring should be dark hair. I doubt that it was her choice tho. Everyone > in the cast seems to be going blonder, or in SMG's case, darker. I suspect > it =might= have something to do with thier characters moods, but I don't > know. Anya should be darker too. Not that I care much about hair... but changing to blonde on a whim seems to be the kind of thing Cordelia would do, just because she can. Between the visions, the whole Connor crisis, etc, a lot of her life has been out of control, and she might grab on to her hair color as something she can control. (Having Groo around is mostly good for her, but IIRC (and I'm not certain) she changed her hair before he showed up.) Come to think of it, what with Lorne moving in and Groo and Connor showing up, Angel Investigations may have to hire a Human Resources department to keep track. Or would that be Human and Demon Resources... uh... Human, Demon, and Vampire Resources... uh, Human, Demon, Vampire, Characters from Other Dimensions... uh, Human, Demon, Vampire, Characters from Other Dimensions, People with Mostly Undisclosed Demon Characteristics, and their Ghost Roommates... - -- | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.josephzitt.com/ | | http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt/ http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt/ | | == New book: Surprise Me with Beauty: the Music of Human Systems == | | Comma / Gray Code Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 12:45:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald G. Keller" Subject: Whedon Interview - Buffy may be better next year (fwd) [Nobody else has put this through this list yet, so here is some interesting info from the man himself.--dgk] Buffy Creator Joss Whedon Talks Climaxes, Criticism and Angel's Fate Wanda: Sounds like you've been insanely busy with all your projects this season. [Buffy producer] Marti Noxon said you're like a pig in poo... Joss: [Laughs.] Sounds like Marti. And yeah, I am like a pig in poo. Has it been hard to be less involved with Buffy? I haven't been as hands-off as people like to think. This season, I was there, except when I was shooting the Firefly pilot. But yeah, everything I saw that I could have made better or had a different vision for, I go, "Aaaarrgh!" But then, I've always done that. This season has been fantastic, as usual, but it has had a darker tone. To be honest, some of the episodes depressed the hell out of me. This is where we wanted to go...into the dark of the woods. But next year is going to be very different. We're going back to our original mission statement. Back to the positive view of the joy of female empowerment. This year was about adult life and relationships--and making really, really bad decisions. Next year will still be scary and different and strange, but it will be more of a positive outlook. People will stop abandoning Dawn. Willow won't be a junky anymore. Buffy won't be dead. Your theme for this year was: "Oh, Grow Up." Do you have one for next year? Yes. It's: "Buffy Year One." It's let's get back to the joy of this very simple concept, that this silly woman no one takes seriously is actually the most powerful woman in the world. How long do you see Buffy lasting? How far have you planned ahead? We basically plot every year as a natural ending point of the show. I loathe stories that end in the middle, so we wrap it up at the end of the year. Every year. So, next season, we've figured out the whole arc-- who the bad guy is, what the general message is. Next year will be the end. And if there's another season, that will be the end, too. What about Angel? Are you worried about it being picked up? No. The WB will pick it up again. I absolutely think so. We'll be staying on the WB for at least another year. Obviously, if the WB drops it, we could do more crossovers. But apart from that, it doesn't really matter. Speaking of crossovers, any hope for Buffy and Angel diehards? What I always say is: Guys, they're on two different networks. There's no way. Buffy and Angel physically could not exist. If they were on the same network, we would have done the Buffy-Spike thing anyway. But we probably would have had a crossover moment when they would go, "You're sleeping with whom?!" It became difficult in the third year to truly bring change to Buffy and Angel. People want to watch change. Growth. They want climax. And we've certainly gotten "climax" with Buffy and Spike. Let's talk about Angel, which has been so great this season. Can you talk about the motive for giving him a son? We wanted to put him in an emotional space. To give him something that is less about day-to-day living. He needed something to connect to emotionally. Plus, I just love the idea of this embarrassing effect of a one-night stand. Why did you decide to make Connor grow up at lightning speed? What are you going to do? Have a baby running around? I don't think so. There were advantages. He got to have a baby. He got to have his child taken away. And then he got to have a full-grown son. That's the beauty of it being a fantasy show. Buffy and Angel fans seem to be more critical than ever this season. Does that affect you? It always affects me. At the same time, I need to give them what they need, not what they want. They need to have their hearts broken. They need to see change. They hated Oz, and then they hated that he left. These things are inevitable. If people are freaking out, I'm good. If people are going, "Hmmm...well, that was fine," I'm fucked. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 14:04:32 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Whedon Interview - Buffy may be better next year (fwd) Hi, Don's posting of the E! Online interview reminded me that I saw somewhere a quote from Nick Brendon where he said that season 7 will be the last. That's the first I've heard of it, but I guess since the cast contracts (not to mention the current UPN order) are all up after next season, according to Brendon they're assuming it's time to move on. I'm waiting for an official announcement before I stop to think about how I feel about that. ============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth ============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html =======Next Up: Jessica Weiser 5/12/02======== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:51:42 -0700 From: "Berni Phillips" Subject: Re: b/seeing red From: "Joseph Zitt" > IIRC, the company that did Babylon 5's makeup and prosthetics, Optic > Nerve, also does Buffy's. I've noticed a lot of similarities in their > alien/demon designs, and also the Lyta/Willow eye thing. I think it's also becoming a media code for evil or big supernatural power. I watch "Charmed" too (I confess -- fortunately it's gotten better this season), and they've used the dark eye thing there as well. When Cole became the Source (as in source of all evil), they showed him with that kind of eye. Berni ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:53:44 -0700 From: "Berni Phillips" Subject: Re: a/Double or Nothing From: "Karin Rabe" > The BIG disappointment for me in the episode featuring Cordy's return > was her HAIR! What was Charisma thinking??? It was already too short, > and no WAY does fake blonde suit her!! Thank you, Karin! I had the same reaction. Every time she changes her hair, it just gets worse and worse. Berni ------------------------------ End of stillpt-digest V4 #65 ****************************