From: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org (stillpt-digest) To: stillpt-digest@smoe.org Subject: stillpt-digest V4 #48 Reply-To: stillpt@smoe.org Sender: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk stillpt-digest Thursday, April 11 2002 Volume 04 : Number 048 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Star Wars, sci-fi, and Joseph Campbell [allenw ] Re: Star Wars, sci-fi, and Joseph Campbell ["David S. Bratman" Subject: Star Wars, sci-fi, and Joseph Campbell Salon.com has a new article (http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2002/04/10/lucas/index.html) that essentially claims that most of the Campbellian analysis of Star Wars, and Lucas and Campbell's attempts to gain support from each other, are bunk, and unfairly distance Star Wars from its true, science-fictional roots. List-readers might find it interesting. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:21:29 -0700 From: "David S. Bratman" Subject: Re: Star Wars, sci-fi, and Joseph Campbell That's a rather interesting article, but though I agree with both the evaluation - yes, Lucas has become a "galactic gasbag" (Phantom Menace is one of the three most boring films I've ever sat through) - and the analysis - yes, his work derives greatly from pulp sf - it does not therefore follow that the Campbellian/Jungian archetypes aren't there. The whole point of archetypes is that they appear without conscious intent, and in fact those who employ them consciously tend to make bad art. (The author suggests that this may be one of the reasons for Lucas's decline in quality, but I don't think it's a major factor.) At 08:17 AM 4/10/2002 , Allen wrote: >Salon.com has a new article >(http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2002/04/10/lucas/index.html) that >essentially claims that most of the Campbellian analysis of Star Wars, and >Lucas and Campbell's attempts to gain support from each other, are bunk, >and unfairly distance Star Wars from its true, science-fictional roots. >List-readers might find it interesting. ------------------------------ End of stillpt-digest V4 #48 ****************************