From: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org (stillpt-digest) To: stillpt-digest@smoe.org Subject: stillpt-digest V4 #37 Reply-To: stillpt@smoe.org Sender: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk stillpt-digest Saturday, March 9 2002 Volume 04 : Number 037 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: b/parents and children ["David S. Bratman" ] Re: b/Xander in extremis (SPOILERS) [allenw ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 09:20:22 -0800 From: "David S. Bratman" Subject: Re: b/parents and children At 06:23 PM 3/7/2002 , Meredith wrote: >I've never gotten that feeling. It hasn't been mentioned recently, but >earlier on in the show Xander made frequent cracks about his clueless >parents. And Willow's parents' disconnection from their daughter's life >was a big part of the "MOO" episode (the one where Amy turned into a rat). "It hasn't been mentioned recently." And the one episode about Willow's parents. >I'm not so sure about this. Xander has made references to not wanting to >turn out like his family before. And in "Restless", we saw some of his >fears manifest. I did mention "Restless". And Xander mentions this - his parents don't really impact on his life much, even when he was still in high school ... >Um, he and Anya moved out into their own place early on last season ... ... and then living with them. If he's no longer there, that reinforces my original point that his life circumstances are not the result of abusive or neglectful parents. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:22:02 -0600 (CST) From: allenw Subject: Re: b/Xander in extremis (SPOILERS) On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, David S. Bratman wrote: > At 02:18 PM 3/6/2002 , Gayle wrote: > > It sounds like you decided to agree with me, then, that the content of the > >visions came from within Xander himself and were not pre-programmed by the > >demon? (My points were an attempt to compromise.) > > It seems likelier. At least in a well-written show. It was my > interpretation of what the demon said that caused me to think otherwise. > At any rate I'm willing to accept it for purposes of argument. > For what it's worth, when Anya asked demon-guy about the "couplf of phoney visions" he said had given Xander, he said that they were of "Your future. Or his nightmare vision of your future." Not quite determinative, but I think it supports the "came from within" hypothesis. Allen W. ------------------------------ End of stillpt-digest V4 #37 ****************************