From: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org (stillpt-digest) To: stillpt-digest@smoe.org Subject: stillpt-digest V3 #184 Reply-To: stillpt@smoe.org Sender: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk stillpt-digest Sunday, November 25 2001 Volume 03 : Number 184 Today's Subjects: ----------------- b/another thought of what's coming ... [meredith ] Re: b/comments11/23 [meredith ] b/for F/X tapers... [meredith ] Re: b/for F/X tapers... ["David S. Bratman" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:45:41 -0500 From: meredith Subject: b/another thought of what's coming ... Hi, The review of "Smashed" at Ain't It Cool News ends with the following quote: "You think you know. What's to come. Who you are. You haven't even begun." We knew that was a big prophecy from "Restless" ... but now I find it exceedingly chilling. ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 23:12:18 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: b/comments11/23 Hi, Thank the gods for friends with TiVo and a spare blank tape. I picked up a copy of "Smashed" on the way home from my holiday today, and I just watched it. >I asked Deirdre, after "Smashed" (that's the title of this >past Tuesday's episode)--she has been wanting Spike and Buffy >to Get Together, it's a Bad Boy thing (she prefers Spike in >his leather jacket to his suit)--if she was happy or creeped >out. Pretty much happy, she said. > >Myself, I thought it was pretty creepy. Me too. Though the first thing I thought was, "well, Faith always did say that Slaying made her horny." Buffy clearly didn't come back right -- we've been discussing that all season. Now Spike experiences something which would indicate she didn't come back entirely human. This would explain the inability for her to feel regular emotions, which she sang about in the musical. "Restless" introduced the concept that the Slayer isn't completely human anyway -- is the balance within her off, now? >Just demonstrates again how violence and sex are all mixed up in Buffy's >head. ("Wonder where I get that from?") Buffy's first sexual encounter -- with a vampire, let's not forget -- led directly to unspeakable violence and pain. No wonder she's got things a bit mixed up in her head. >This suggests a really wild speculation. What if the Big Bad of this >season is not the Trio (which seems unlikely), nor even Willow (which >seems more likely)...but Buffy? What if she recovers from her trauma and >turns evil? What if she goes on some kind of rampage? What will they all >do? Will this snap Willow out of her denial? Will the Trio team up with >the Slayerettes against this threat to them all? Will they break Faith out >of jail to track Buffy down? (I can only hope!) And how will they fix it? >One suggestion: they could "curse" her with the soul-restoring spell, >which, remember, was the first major spell Willow ever cast. Yow. The possibilities are endless. I like David's idea about Buffy suddenly vamping out, too. That would keep the boards buzzing for *years*. Particularly if it happened at the end of the last episode before a 6-week break. Which we're about to have (after this week there are no new episodes until late January, unless UPN decides to be nice and give us a Christmas present in December). >Because then I got thinking about other "Restless" bits that have never >come up again, and my mind roved over that most mysterious statement of >Buffy's in the climactic scene "I'm going to be a fireman when the floods >roll back." > >Note that Buffy's basement got flooded earlier this season...and she joked >about burning down the house for the insurance money. (Which would be >"fireman" in the =Fahrenheit 451= sense of one who =starts= fires.) Maybe >she =will= burn her own house down? Leaving Dawn homeless? I think that's more apt to happen metaphorically than literally, but who knows. Dawn might as well be homeless already. Giles the father-figure is gone, Tara is gone (I *loved* the scene where Tara, like the parent who has just moved out explained to Dawn that her leaving had nothing to do with her -- I was waiting for Dawn to say something along the lines of "I've heard this before"), and Buffy, when she's even around isn't herself. >I'm a little dissatisfied with Willow suddenly "just realizing" she knew >how to de-rat Amy (the suggestion, I guess, is that she hadn't thought >about it in a while); and what, exactly, was it that she did? But it's >=long= past time for Amy to come back, and it's the right situation (Tara >leaving, Willow craving the company of another magical person). Agreed 100%. If it was so easy, why didn't Willow do it months ago?? Though Hilary's point is well taken that Willow lately has only been doing things that are going to help *her*. De-ratting Amy wasn't really necessary to help herself up until now. Allen wondered: >However, note that (from the preview) Amy seems to have a magic >"pusher," and may not be at Willow-power levels naturally. Which raises >the question, what will Willow's power-level be like when *she's* jazzed >up? Oh, my. Judging from the Lyta-eyes (cf. Babylon 5) she showed in the preview, I'm almost afraid to ask. I think we'll be finding out soon enough. David noted: >Notice that they don't solve it because they assume it must be a >demon. Interesting parallel to the human-mugger scene at the >beginning. (Though perhaps not intentional: the human mugger may well >have been there just to show that Spike's chip is still working.) I thought that scene was there for both reasons. Yes, it was a useful plot device to show that Spike's chip was still functional, yet it also underscored that Sunnydale is just as susceptible to real-world problems as everyplace else. (See the conversation in the Magic Box, where the gang marvels at how lame the bank heist and the diamond theft are, relative to the things they usually have to deal with.) Todd pointed out: >If the answer is "no", then I think that the answer to >the mystery of Spike being able to fight Buffy may >also be traced back to that wonderful episode >"Restless". Remember the part of the dream where Buffy >approaches Riley and the man-who-would-be-Adam sitting >at a table? Excellent point. More bits of "Restless" coming true here, perhaps? (I see that scene as foreshadowing, more than showing insight into the way things were at the time.) The season steams right along. As usual, the break between new episodes is going to be hellacious. :/ ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:52:09 -0500 From: meredith Subject: b/for F/X tapers... From Aint It Cool News, something which may be of interest to those who are catching up on F/X: >The Big Buffy/FX Question > >Coax has been deluged with e-mail from viewers asking why some of the best >episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer  including Hush, Buffy vs. >Dracula, The Body and The Gift  are not airing on FX. Word is UPN >will soon be repeating these in Buffys usual Tuesday-night timeslot, >and the missing episodes will be added to the FX rotation shortly >thereafter. "Hush" airs on UPN Dec. 11; "The Body" Dec. 18. ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:59:31 -0800 From: "David S. Bratman" Subject: Re: b/for F/X tapers... At 09:52 PM 11/24/2001 , Aint It Cool News wrote: >>Coax has been deluged with e-mail from viewers asking why some of the >>best episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer including Hush, Buffy vs. >>Dracula, The Body and The Gift are not airing on FX. This is one of those "which of these does not belong?" IQ test questions, right? ------------------------------ End of stillpt-digest V3 #184 *****************************