From: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org (stillpt-digest) To: stillpt-digest@smoe.org Subject: stillpt-digest V3 #158 Reply-To: stillpt@smoe.org Sender: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk stillpt-digest Saturday, October 13 2001 Volume 03 : Number 158 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Buffy--episode 2 [allenw ] RE: Buffy--episode 2 [Kathleen Dalton-Woodbury ] RE: Buffy--episode 2 ["Karin Rabe" ] RE: Buffy--episode 2 [meredith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:22:23 -0500 (CDT) From: allenw Subject: RE: Buffy--episode 2 On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Karin Rabe wrote: SPOILER SPACE . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > And does anyone think Giles is really coming "right back"? > Depends if you think Willow really called him. I don't... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 07:37:08 -0600 From: Kathleen Dalton-Woodbury Subject: RE: Buffy--episode 2 At 01:16 AM 10/12/01 -0400, Karin Rabe wrote: >Yes, "Wow!" was my main reaction, as well. :) And having her tell Spike, >whom she can be "alone" with much to his chagrin, yet whom alone she trusts >not to tell the others, was a brilliant touch. [snip] But can anyone really trust Spike not to tell something damaging that he knows? >Willow's reference to the torments of hell Angel had to endure before being >brought back was truly puzzling, however: considering everything Buffy had >done before she died, why would anyone expect =her= to be in hell? The >operating assumption seemed to be that Glory had control not just over >Buffy's fate but over her spiritual status, even beyond the grave! Willow's argument was that the death was mystical as opposed to regular (like Joyce's, I guess) and so she could have gone to a hellish place--after all, she died to close the door to a hell, right? But then, maybe that argument was to make Willow look more well-meaning than some are thinking she is. (Could this be Joss again, making us think Willow is going to be the Big Bad, when she really isn't? The guy's so tricksy, he can get you coming or going....) At 09:22 AM 10/12/01 -0500, allenw wrote: >On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Karin Rabe wrote: >SPOILER SPACE >. >. >. >. >. >. >. >. >. >. >. >. >. >. >> And does anyone think Giles is really coming "right back"? >> > Depends if you think Willow really called him. I don't... Ooooh!!!! workshop@burgoyne.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 23:42:06 -0400 From: "Karin Rabe" Subject: RE: Buffy--episode 2 Oh? Why do you think Willow didn't call him, Allen? For fear of losing her own power over the group, and over Buffy? (And why do we still need spoiler space?) - ---Karin > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-stillpt@smoe.org [mailto:owner-stillpt@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > allenw > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 10:22 AM > To: stillpt@smoe.org > Subject: RE: Buffy--episode 2 > > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Karin Rabe wrote: > SPOILER SPACE > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > > And does anyone think Giles is really coming "right back"? > > > Depends if you think Willow really called him. I don't... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 00:01:29 -0400 From: meredith Subject: RE: Buffy--episode 2 Hi, Karin wondered: >(And why do we still need spoiler >space?) I dunno about anyone else, but I only just got to watch the episode tonight. What an amazing follow-up. When I take it as hour 3 of the premiere, the entire premiere is much more satisfying to me. I *knew* that Buffy had been wrenched from a happy afterlife. The gang had zero empirical evidence that she had indeed been in Hell. Willow is on some seriously deluded power trip here, and you just know she's going to end up paying for that BIG time. Episode highlights: - -- Spike's reunion with Buffy - yowza. - -- Anya. "Evil has things to do. Evil has plans." - -- Willow and Tara's domestic bliss ... guess UPN isn't as uptight as the WB, eh? - -- Anya Possessed was the creepiest thing I've seen on the show since The Gentlemen. Kathleen wondered: >But can anyone really trust Spike not to tell something damaging that he >knows? In this case, I think so. He won't do anything to destroy Buffy's confidence. I think her secret is safe with him. Though I don't doubt for a moment that the truth won't come out at some point ... Buffy will tell some member of the gang at an appropriately hard-hitting moment. ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ End of stillpt-digest V3 #158 *****************************