From: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org (stillpt-digest) To: stillpt-digest@smoe.org Subject: stillpt-digest V3 #146 Reply-To: stillpt@smoe.org Sender: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk stillpt-digest Saturday, September 29 2001 Volume 03 : Number 146 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: b/again, the gift [Micole Sudberg ] b/cartoon ["Donald G. Keller" ] b/tv news ["Donald G. Keller" ] da/premiere ["Donald G. Keller" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 11:39:26 -0400 From: Micole Sudberg Subject: Re: b/again, the gift At 09:08 PM 9/27/01 -0400, Dawn Friedman wrote: >At 09:13 AM 9/26/01 -0400, Micole wrote: > >>Always find suspension-of-disbelief sawed through by the failure of the >>Scoobies to recognize the Buffybot after catching on to April in 10 seconds >>flat. > >They were unrealistically slow. But I thought part of the point of that >was that Spike's specs were a hell of a lot closer to his model than April >was to any human being whatsoever. Spike may have been not much better as >a fanfic writer than he was as a poet, but he had actual feelings for Buffy >as an individual, and some clues about what that individual was like. The Buffybot was a lot more like what Spike wanted Buffy to be than like Buffy. And whatever Spike's specs may have been, the Buffybot didn't act any more human than April did. She displayed the same behaviors that clued the Scoobies in about April -- the flat voice, the artificial smile, the extremely limited vocabulary applied in every situation, no matter how inappropriate. If the point was supposed to be that the Buffybot was more like Buffy than April was like a human being, than the Buffybot ought to have actually acted more like Buffy. I think they were going for joke over logic, and that really doesn't work for me. - --m. - -- Micole Sudberg micole@aya.yale.edu mobile: 646.245.3822 home: 212.396.9785 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 22:40:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald G. Keller" Subject: b/cartoon In the If-Only-I-Could-Draw category, here's a "script" for a cartoon I thought up yesterday: [PANEL 1] [BUFFY, dressed as we last saw her in "The Gift," has raised up on one elbow from where she has been lying, and is looking up at someone standing over her, arms folded: about Buffy's size, very Goth, wearing an ankh necklace.] DEATH: Sorry, B. There's been a change of plans. Not your time yet. Back you go. BUFFY: ? [PANEL 2] DEATH: [over her shoulder as she walks away] And whatever you've heard, it's =my= gift. BUFFY: ?? (Can you tell I was reading a bunch of Neil Gaiman yesterday?) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 22:49:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald G. Keller" Subject: b/tv news According to next week's =TV Guide= which I bought today, not only is =Buffy= being rerun on the F/X cable network every evening at 7:00 p.m. (Eastern time) starting Monday, it's =also= being rerun on Fox at 6 p.m. on Saturdays (which has been an =X-Files= rerun slot for quite a while), =and= on UPN at 8 p.m. on Sundays, both starting this weekend. At least here in New York. There's info at www.buffyweekends.com, which is too fancy for my lo-tech computer to access. As far as I can tell, they're starting at the beginning of Season 1. So anyone here who hasn't gotten to see the earliest episodes, now is your chance. And I for one would be quite willing to discuss the episodes as they run. For example, first-time viewers of the series premiere are invited to notice how tightly they introduce, and then re-introduce, the major characters in the early scenes of the episode, while pushing the plot forward at the same time. This all jives with the fact that the DVDs of the 1st season will come out in January (great news--now I have to get a player in the after-Christmas sales), because all of these rerun slots will have gotten through the 1st season by then. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 22:51:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald G. Keller" Subject: da/premiere Just a few brief words on the =Dark Angel= premiere. Wow, did they get a lot done in an hour. Maybe too much. Several new characters, major crossroads for several continuing characters, the engine revved up for the new sequence of episodes. Quite enjoyable. ------------------------------ End of stillpt-digest V3 #146 *****************************