From: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org (stillpt-digest) To: stillpt-digest@smoe.org Subject: stillpt-digest V2 #216 Reply-To: stillpt@smoe.org Sender: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk stillpt-digest Friday, November 17 2000 Volume 02 : Number 216 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: stillpt-digest V2 #215 [Kathleen Woodbury ] Re: stillpt-digest V2 #214 ["David S. Bratman" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:56:05 -0700 From: Kathleen Woodbury Subject: Re: stillpt-digest V2 #215 At 04:45 AM 11/16/00 -0500, marta grabien wrote: >Afterwards we resaw last weeks Angel. Still laughing. One thing that has intrigued me about last weeks' ANGEL is the advice the false swami gave Angel. Yes, Angel has already been there, done that--to Buffy. So, is the way Angel treated Buffy some sneaky way for Angelus to "get even" with Darla for rejecting him when he got his soul back? I've sat there through several episodes of ANGEL with Darla in them, and wondered about the similarities between Darla and Buffy--both small, blond, powerful, and loved by Angel/Angelus. Is this getting Freudian? (I hate to think so, but Darla is, in a way, Angelus' mother....) Phaedre/Kathleen workshop@burgoyne.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 01:30:32 -0500 (EST) From: "David S. Bratman" Subject: Re: stillpt-digest V2 #214 I got very tired of Darla a long time ago, but I'm feeling somewhat less tired of her now. Perhaps the actress does vulnerable women better than gloating vampires. Still, while the Angel episode was no more than OK (if Lindsay is going to remain an up-and-coming lawyer, he's got to go back to having his hair styled), I enjoyed this week's BVS tremendously: more so even than some episodes I'd admit were better. What was it? It wasn't the sets in the flashback scenes, that's for sure. But these were less bad than they might have been. I think the change of stunt directors has been good for the show: the Boxer Rebellion rioting in the streets didn't look anywhere near as ludicrous as the infamous "football running play" scene in the bowels of the Initiative in the climax episode of last season. The content of the flashbacks helped, a bit. When I think of "origin stories" I think of the ones in superhero comics. These (including Darla's, historically ludicrous though it was) weren't anywhere near as bad, and handled nowhere near as heavily as Angel's was. And Spike's was not only a surprise but rather funny. Here was a chance, too, to surprise the viewer and add some new information without changing anything that's already on the ground, which was a relief after some of the surprises we've had. But what I most liked about this week's BVS was that it was a (mostly) single-thread episode with great interaction between Buffy and Spike. And, just as last week was the Tara show, this was the Spike show, and it gave James Marsters a real chance to show off what he can do as an actor. He did splendidly. The final scene - although virtually nothing happens - was a humdinger. By tv standards it was a tour de force of subtlety. I'm rarely felt so emotionally satisfied by an hour of television. David B. ------------------------------ End of stillpt-digest V2 #216 *****************************