From: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org (stillpt-digest) To: stillpt-digest@smoe.org Subject: stillpt-digest V2 #33 Reply-To: stillpt@smoe.org Sender: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-stillpt-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk stillpt-digest Sunday, February 13 2000 Volume 02 : Number 033 Today's Subjects: ----------------- News about 2/22 episode [Micole Sudberg ] Re: NEW! COMMENTS! SPOILERS! [meredith ] b/studio shuts down fan sites [meredith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:16:37 -0500 From: Micole Sudberg Subject: News about 2/22 episode The official Warner site has some information about the 2/22 episode -- getting into spoilers from my perspective, so I'm not going to send them to the list. If you're interested, see: http://www.buffy.com/slow/mortuary/index_anno4.html and scroll down to the description of the forthcoming episodes at the end of the page. - --m. - -- "It struck me as pretty ridiculous to be called Mr. Darcy and to stand on your own looking snooty at a party. It's like being called Heathcliff and insisting on spending the entire evening in the garden, shouting 'Cathy' and banging your head against a tree."--Helen Fielding, =Bridget Jones's Diary= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 20:02:01 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: NEW! COMMENTS! SPOILERS! Hi! >[THIS PAGE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK] > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to all for the spoiler space. I wasn't able to watch until Thursday night, having had other commitments get in the way on Tuesday and Wednesday. Don noted: >You know, I =actually= bought Buffy's demise for about 30 seconds, even >musing whether that would "re-activate" Faith (which doesn't actually make >sense). Very clever. It took me a second, but then I realized she must've ripped the device off. >(But why couldn't Walsh see the rest of the >fight? Did she stop watching?) She must have -- and it looked like the camera was facing down anyway. As for why she didn't hear the fight continuing, I'll borrow a rationalization from the Xenaverse (with much thanks to The Simpsons Halloween Special 1999): The Wizard Did It. :) >=Very= clever moment with Buffy waking up the Morning After and thinking >she was alone. We remember the previous occasions. Yes, I loved that touch. For once she wasn't greeted with a nasty surprise! >And not only Willow and Tara speaking in subtext. ? To what are you referring here? >And Willow =still= fibbing up a storm... I'm becoming more convinced that she's really not comfortable with her feelings about Tara yet, and when she finally does 'fess up to Buffy (et al.) about what's going on then we'll know that it's for real. (Either that, or someone (Buffy? Xander? Or for that matter, Oz?) will walk in on her and Tara and she'll have a lot of explaining to do...) >So is the Frankenstein demon the agenda all along? I hope not. That would be just too ... conventional. >"Hello, I'm Don, and I'm a patternaholic." Acceptance is always the first step. Micole wondered: >and is anybody else wondering if the vitamins are really vitamins? Y'know, that hadn't occurred to me at all, but now that you mention it ... hmmm. David commented: >But what did get to me was what one might call the "sex and violence" >scene. That was _very_ strange, and in visual style quite unlike >anything I've seen on this show before. We weren't sure at first if it >was a dream, or a commentary on the action, or what it turned out to be, >namely a time intercut. I thought that was quite strange too. At first I thought the demon was planting the image into either Buffy or Riley's head (couldn't tell which) to distract them during the fight; then I thought that maybe the fight was so run-of-the-mill for Buffy that we were seeing the something else she was thinking of instead; then I realized what was actually going on. Slayers get horny when they fight, or so Faith let us know last year. But of course. Color me *seriously* skeeved by Professor Walsh the Voyeur, though. I don't even want to THINK about her reasons for doing that. Fervently hoping I'll be able to get back to my hotel room in time to catch this week's episode, +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 23:04:49 -0500 From: meredith Subject: b/studio shuts down fan sites Hi! Just saw this and thought it might be of some interest. From cnn.com: Fan sites feel studio glare From Correspondent Dennis Michael February 11, 2000 Web posted at: 3:53 p.m. EST (2053 GMT) (CNN) -- Here's the dream: One day in the not-so-distant future, you'll be able to watch your favorite sitcom and - -- at the same time on the same screen - -- surf the Internet for information on the show and its actors and actresses. There are even predictions that we'll be able to buy clothes like those the stars are wearing, with a click of the remote or mouse. But while the convergence of television and the Internet has long been predicted, there still are a few bugs to be worked out before that happens. One seemingly minor one, that could become a major hurdle: the issue of fan sites. The Web is filled with these shrines devoted to films, TV shows and their stars. "Star Trek," "Xena: Warrior Princess," and "The X-Files" are shows with lots of fan sites. The sites seem to do all the work for the studios, endlessly and relentlessly promoting the shows that inspire them. And yet the studios are often at odds with these fan sites. 20th Century Fox Television recently closed down or threatened several sites dedicated to "Buffy the Vampire Slayer." "Web site owners," says Gina Smith, who runs an unofficial "Buffy" site, "received cease-and-desist letters telling them to immediately remove any copyrighted material, whether it be logos, transcripts, video clips, sound clips, screen shots -- any type of pictures -- immediately, or else they would face legal action." It's not a first. Viacom, which owns networks including Showtime and UPN, did the same with "Star Trek" fan sites last year. The content offered by the sites amounts to intellectual property owned by the studios. In response, hundreds of fan sites are planning a protest called "Operation Blackout" on May 13, a one-day shutdown of the sites to attract attention to the issue. Between a rock and cyberspace Fox-TV president Doug Herzog says his company is stuck in the middle. "It's always nice to see fans passionate and getting behind shows," Herzog says. "But at the same time, these are characters and trademarks that belong to someone else. So it's not exactly all kosher." The Screen Actors Guild (SAG) is taking a hard line on the unauthorized use of property on fan sites. "The studios have an obligation to negotiate with our members individually if their images and performances are going to be used in anything other than the film they were originally employed in," says Leonard Chassman, executive director of SAG's Hollywood branch. "And (creators of fan sites) are subject to severe damages if they don't comply with that. The studios are in the best position as copyright holders in the property to control the situation. I applaud Fox for taking the action that it did." But others aren't giving Fox or any other site-curbing studio much applause. "If they stop these Web sites, they're shooting themselves in the foot, because these are the fans," says Mark Schwed, a columnist for TV Guide magazine. "These are the ones who watch 'Buffy' and love 'Buffy' and buy 'Buffy' products and get all their friends to watch 'Buffy.'" Smith agrees. "I know that by shutting these sites down, Fox is alienating the fans and the viewers, and like I said, the 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' Internet fan base is extremely devoted," says Smith. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ End of stillpt-digest V2 #33 ****************************