From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V12 #534 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Sunday, March 23 2014 Volume 12 : Number 534 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Richard's output, Transit, etc. [Norman Johnson ] Re: Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive [Carol ] Re: [RS] A New Hope [Rongrittz ] Re: [RS] Transit ["Michael and Linda Marmer" ] Re: Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive ["Mich] Re: Re: Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive [o] Re: [RS] working as a singer ["Michael and Linda Marmer" ] Re: [RS] working as a singer [Carol Love ] [RS] A New Hope [Laurence Krulik ] Re: Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive [Vaness] Re: [RS] Richard's output, Transit, etc. ["Laurence Krulik" ] Re: [RS] A New Hope [Laurence Krulik ] Re: [RS] Richard's output, Transit, etc. [Rongrittz ] [RS] Re: New Album Name [Doug Ashford ] Re: [RS] Fernario [Howie ] [RS] Re: Hugh Blumenfeld [Rongrittz ] Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive ["Matthew B] [RS] This seems fairly definitive [Pete Jameson ] Re: [RS] Inclusive?/Atlas Choking [Nancy Scott ] Re: Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive ["Mich] Re: [RS] Mimic not Merit ["cvz" ] Re: [RS] Richard's output, Transit, etc. ["Michael and Linda Marmer" Subject: [RS] Richard's output, Transit, etc. Few notes... I wouldn't count South of Delia or Cry Cry Cry as Richard's original studio works. With that, I think what can be said is that Richard's output has slowed from an album every two or three years to one every five years. Given his perfectionism and lack of need to produce quantity, I'm not surprised. Transit does not take place on the NJ Turnpike, but on I-80 going west from the merge at the turnpike to the Delaware Water Gap (and beyond). Richard performed an unfinished version of the song maybe a year before the release of SNP ending with the horde going into the vortex and with Sister Maria's role not being fleshed out. Norman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 18:00:47 -0400 From: Chris Bergstresser Subject: [RS] Last minute ticket for RS show tonight at City Winery in NYC Hey all -- I realize this is last minute, but I've ended up with an extra ticket to the show tonight at City Winery, starting at 8pm. If anyone's around and interested, just email me and I'll make sure you can get in the door. - -- Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 09:43:36 -0400 From: Carol Love Subject: Re: Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive Laurence wrote: > Cool you interviewed her! She didn't get the job? > ...Uh, I was a freelance reporter interviewing her for an article about her upcoming gig. :-) ~ Carol ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 18:37:36 -0400 From: Carol Love Subject: Re: [RS] Richard's output, Transit, etc. Rongrittz wrote: > Folks keep referring to Richard as a perfectionist. Why do they think so? > ...Again, as a teacher, I tell students over and over 9 times out of ten their first answer on a test is the correct choice. Unless you have found something to completely refute your first choice ~ leave it alone. It seems like RS can never just check the first box. His stripped down concert versions have always seemed the best. Again, I'll point to May and TNBW. Sparse was better with those two. He tinkered with the songs so long, I guess he felt they NEEDED more. Or he listens too much to producers. I hate to say this, but I was disappointed when he last turned up here for a concert with a partial band. The gal on the violin (can't remember her name!!) actually did add a bit but the rest was just a distraction. I still call it a good show and feel I got my money's worth and more, but I prefer him alone with his guitar. I also think the biggest evidence of perfectionism was when he stopped taking requests in the fear it would result in a flub that would go to youtube. It seems like he's made peace with youtube, but he hated the concept at first. Although I think it has nothing to do with youtube, I've always loved it when someone shouted a request to John Gorka and he always answered, "No thanks, I'm sticking to the songs I know tonight..." ~ Carol ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 09:39:30 -0400 From: Laurence Krulik Subject: Re: Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive Cool you interviewed her! She didn't get the job? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 08:20:57 -0400 From: Pete Jameson Subject: [RS] Didn't See That Comings Mike, That was extraordinary. I love Hiatt. The first time I saw him he did the song Little Head and our kids were too young to know what it was about. This was at Central Parks Summer Stage on a brilliant July afternoon. Martin Sexton opened that day in 97. Hiatt is not only a master songwriter but a consummate pro. Thanks for the light touch, amigo. As for the norm for musicians, youd have to look at Richards milieu, Id say. Hes a folkie, for sure. Today he might be found under singer/songwriter, which is a very broad category indeed. Then youd have to further refine his peer group by considering people in his age group, say 45 to 55, so theyre the kind of artists whove been recording for 20 years or more. In Richards case, his first record came out in 92 and, as others have pointed out, hes made eight studio records in that time. I think you MUST include South of Delia, whether he wrote the songs or not, its a record on which he self-produced and selected the complementary players. As for Courier, Id agree its just a recording of a (very good) live performance, but probably didnt require much time in the editing. Also, 13 Songs You May or May Not Know, in spite of the fact that he re-recorded the cuts, contains only one new composition - Satellites, so I think you can omit that, too, in terms of being part of his creative oeuvre. So, heres his studio record production and the release years: 1992 Sparrows Point 1994 Blue Divide 1997 Reunion Hill 1998 Cry Cry Cry (w/Dar Williams & Lucy Kaplansky) 2000 Somewhere Near Paterson 2004 Vuelta 2007 South of Delia 2009 Not Far Now So, that looks like eight over a 17 year period, or roughly one every two years. Now, its been five years since a new record. So the grumbling among his fans/acolytes/aficionados is understandable. I think the very reason were drawn to his music/songwriting/singing/performing is the reason we havent seen a record in almost 2,000 days. The dude is a meticulous craftsman. Also someone who has what he has called a great life in Buenos Aires. Sure, he took a year off from touring, but by my count hes 53 now and I think perhaps the factor were not including is that hes financially comfortable. He can afford not to tour or put out a record  and whats he really make off cds anyway? How many units is he selling per release? 10,000? 20,000? Doesnt take long to figure out that neither the record sales nor the touring is gonna have in rolling in dough. So, its a labor of love. And, mark my words, itll tell a damn good story when it should arrive. And only the artist has the right to tell us when it should arrive Pedro in PA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 09:14:40 -0400 From: Carol Love Subject: Re: Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive Michael and Linda Marmer wrote: > I want to say Lucy is not doing psychological work, but I am not positive > about that. > ...In another life, before I went into the highly lucrative career of a public school teacher, I used to freelance for The St. Petersburg Times (now called The Tampa Bay Times). I interviewed Lucy in the 90's at a time when she still was working in psychology. She told me her biggest nightmare was turning up for a gig in a white lab coat or turning up at the office dressed for the stage!! I feel like I heard somewhere that she has since stopped working besides family and music. Funny enough, the last time I saw Richard we talked for a couple minutes after the show. He told me his oldest son was going to school to become a teacher. I shook my head and said, "Talk him out of it!!" Richard would have none of it. He totally supports his son's career choice. Who knows, maybe his son will be the next Ron Clark. ...Carol ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 18:00:54 -0700 From: Rongrittz Subject: Re: [RS] A New Hope Cry Cry. > On Mar 23, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Laurence Krulik wrote: > > However, he did ALSO say that he's cutting a record with > Lucy. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 12:22:05 -0400 From: "Michael and Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: [RS] Transit Sadly the Ferry out of Bar Harbor closed and the NJ Turnpike is a mess with a widening project. I miss the long closed Cities Service Gas Stations and HoJo's at the service plazas on the Turnpike. I am not sure the status of the Ferry out of Portland, Maine. Mike - -----Original Message----- From: Howie Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 10:22 PM To: shindell-list@smoe.org Subject: Re: [RS] Transit I've been on the Maine-Nova Scotia ferries and on the New Jersey Turnpike. Richard made a great choice. - -Howie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:28:42 -0400 From: "Michael and Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive David Francey: David Francey is a Scottish-born Canadian carpenter-turned-songwriter, who has become known as bone of Canadabs most revered folk poets and singersb (Toronto Star). Born in Ayrshire, Scotland to parents who were factory workers, he moved to Canada when he was twelve. For decades, he worked across Canada in rail yards, construction sites, and in the Yukon bush, all the while writing poetry, setting it to melodies in his head and singing it to himself as he worked. A truly authentic folk singer, Francey is a documentarian of the working person who never imagined earning a living from his music. But when he was in his 40s, his wife, artist Beth Girdler, encouraged him to share his songs and sing in public. The reaction was instant. His first album Torn Screen Door came out in 1999 and was a hit in Canada. Since then, he has released ten albums, won three Juno Awards and has had his songs covered by such artists as The Del McCoury Band, The Rankin Family, James Keelaghan and Tracy Grammer. - -----Original Message----- From: Vanessa Wills Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 11:57 AM To: shindell-list@smoe.org Subject: Re: Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive Terence Martin became--and until the last years of his life, remained--a high school English teacher while maintaining his music career. http://tribeshill.com/?page=news&category=01--NEWS&display=4727 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:07:12 -0500 (CDT) From: ookpik@verizon.net Subject: Re: Re: Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive And Hugh Blumenfeld spent some years as an English teacher, then returned to school and became an MD. He's now a practicing doctor in Connecticut, which has greatly decreased his performance schedule but not (I think) eliminated it. Not very well known, but I think other fans of RS might enjoy HB as much as I do. And wasn't Richard Shindell in an Episcopalian (rather than Catholic) seminary? Jean Rossner On 03/23/14, Vanessa Wills wrote: Terence Martin became--and until the last years of his life, remained--a high school English teacher while maintaining his music career. http://tribeshill.com/?page=news&category=01--NEWS&di splay=4727 On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote: > Well also Lucy is a psychologist, though I'm not sure if she's in active > practice, so there's another major life vocation. Could you imagine if > Richard were active as a priest? I believe he said he had gone through, but > not completed, the Catholic seminary. I can't think, off the top of my > head, of an artist who has kept another full-time career while putting out > albums. > Matthew ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 12:26:12 -0400 From: "Michael and Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: [RS] working as a singer That would be great, as I am sure Richard would love them doing one of his songs, then he would have enough money from the royalties for the new CD, if that is a issue. Of course there is Kickstarter, as I did that once for Chuck Brodsky. Mike - -----Original Message----- From: Carol Love Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 9:20 AM To: shindell-list@smoe.org Subject: Re: [RS] working as a singer For some reason, Mike bringing up John Hyatt made me think of Jimmy Buffett. Probably because Buffett did a cover of Hyatt's most AWESOME "Thank God the Tiki Bar is Open". That brings me to something I've always wondered... Would everyone on this list just DIE if Buffett/Alan Jackson/Zac Brown did a cover of "Kenworth"?? I can really see a rockabilly type artist covering our favorite trucking song. IMHO, it could only be a good thing for a Richard song to hit a high commercial market. Am I alone with my thoughts?? ...Carol ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 10:16:16 -0400 From: "Michael and Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: [RS] Didn't See That Comings Pete, Thanks, as I know that was a borderline YouTube to put on a list, as I know it might upset some, some might really like it, like you. Haitt is a new performer to me, as I got my first Haitt CD at Christmas. I too would like to see new material as soon as possible, but I would want the new material to be quality work, as again, sometimes, artist push out CDs just to get it out. Since you like Neil Young, he got into a lawsuit with his record company, as he put out 3 LP real quick not his best work, David Geffen paid Neil a million for each LP, they bombed, Geffen sued Neil, the case got thrown out, they are still friends. In Neil's defense, he said, he puts out what he likes and he does not care if the fan base does not like what they hear. Just a bit of music history. http://www.cbc.ca/22minutes/videos/clips-season-21/neil-young-pono-player Here is a parody on what Neil is doing now in the music world. they pick on Neil from time to time. But Pete, in two weeks I will be at my first game at Nationals Park in DC and life goes on. O:)! As for concerts, this week we see Garnet Rogers at Jammin Java in Vienna, VA on Wednesday, Saturday we see at the Birchmere in Arlington, VA, John Gorka, who has a new CD out, and Cheryl Wheeler and then Monday, the 31st, we see Rosanne Cash in Frederick, MD, as I do not know much about her, but her new CD is getting a lot of airplay on Folk Alley and CBC Radio 2, just a great sounding CD, as she does the entire CD in concert. Richard's CD will be in 9 months. Hmm, sound like he might be pregnant. YIKES. Being silly Mike - -----Original Message----- From: Pete Jameson Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 8:20 AM To: shindell-list@smoe.org Subject: [RS] Didn't See That Comings Mike, That was extraordinary. I love Hiatt. The first time I saw him he did the song Little Head and our kids were too young to know what it was about. This was at Central Parks Summer Stage on a brilliant July afternoon. Martin Sexton opened that day in 97. Hiatt is not only a master songwriter but a consummate pro. Thanks for the light touch, amigo. As for the norm for musicians, youd have to look at Richards milieu, Id say. Hes a folkie, for sure. Today he might be found under singer/songwriter, which is a very broad category indeed. Then youd have to further refine his peer group by considering people in his age group, say 45 to 55, so theyre the kind of artists whove been recording for 20 years or more. In Richards case, his first record came out in 92 and, as others have pointed out, hes made eight studio records in that time. I think you MUST include South of Delia, whether he wrote the songs or not, its a record on which he self-produced and selected the complementary players. As for Courier, Id agree its just a recording of a (very good) live performance, but probably didnt require much time in the editing. Also, 13 Songs You May or May Not Know, in spite of the fact that he re-recorded the cuts, contains only one new composition - Satellites, so I think you can omit that, too, in terms o! f being part of his creative oeuvre. So, heres his studio record production and the release years: 1992 Sparrows Point 1994 Blue Divide 1997 Reunion Hill 1998 Cry Cry Cry (w/Dar Williams & Lucy Kaplansky) 2000 Somewhere Near Paterson 2004 Vuelta 2007 South of Delia 2009 Not Far Now So, that looks like eight over a 17 year period, or roughly one every two years. Now, its been five years since a new record. So the grumbling among his fans/acolytes/aficionados is understandable. I think the very reason were drawn to his music/songwriting/singing/performing is the reason we havent seen a record in almost 2,000 days. The dude is a meticulous craftsman. Also someone who has what he has called a great life in Buenos Aires. Sure, he took a year off from touring, but by my count hes 53 now and I think perhaps the factor were not including is that hes financially comfortable. He can afford not to tour or put out a record  and whats he really make off cds anyway? How many units is he selling per release? 10,000? 20,000? Doesnt take long to figure out that neither the record sales nor the touring is gonna have in rolling in dough. So, its a labor of love. And, mark my words, itll tell a damn good story when it should arrive. And only the artist has the right to tell us when it should arrive Pedro in PA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 18:49:00 -0400 From: Norman Johnson Subject: Re: [RS] Richard's output, Transit, etc. Ron wrote: >> Folks keep referring to Richard as a perfectionist. << Ron, do you know of any other performer who tunes as much as Richard? If that's not a sign of perfectionism, I don't know what is. Yes, you might be right about the delays sapping the energy of the performance, but that does not argue against Richard being a perfectionist. Norman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 21:26:52 -0400 From: "Michael and Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: [RS] A New Hope and did you get slowed down by the tolls on the Garden State Parkway or did you have EZ Pass. Just kidding, as this is a John Gorka throw in. Maybe you did not use the Parkway, but I spent a night in hell at the Marriott in Saddlebrook, NJ off the Garden State Parkway. we where coming home from Maine and the never ending wedding parties in rooms never stopped. the room next to us ran the shower the entire night. Marriott picked up the tab. I should of blasted my Somewhere Near Patterson CD in the van, which went 280,000 and never broke down like the one from St. Agnes. Mike - -----Original Message----- From: Rongrittz Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 9:00 PM To: shindell-list@smoe.org Subject: Re: [RS] A New Hope Cry Cry. > On Mar 23, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Laurence Krulik wrote: > > However, he did ALSO say that he's cutting a record with > Lucy. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 09:20:08 -0400 From: Carol Love Subject: Re: [RS] working as a singer For some reason, Mike bringing up John Hyatt made me think of Jimmy Buffett. Probably because Buffett did a cover of Hyatt's most AWESOME "Thank God the Tiki Bar is Open". That brings me to something I've always wondered... Would everyone on this list just DIE if Buffett/Alan Jackson/Zac Brown did a cover of "Kenworth"?? I can really see a rockabilly type artist covering our favorite trucking song. IMHO, it could only be a good thing for a Richard song to hit a high commercial market. Am I alone with my thoughts?? ...Carol ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:34:18 -0400 From: Laurence Krulik Subject: [RS] A New Hope I saw Richard and Lucy last night in South Orange, NJ. Overall, it's just a super treat seeing both of them together. Lucy had 3 new songs which were nice as well. As I mentioned in our Facebook page, the wife and I brought our 4 year old daughter. Her first real show. She's a big fan of "Down at the Sea Hotel" - - a children's book/CD based on a Greg Brown song. Lucy is all over it. She was very excited to see Lucy and had her sign her book. Lucy guessed her age like she was a boardwalk game host. Anyway, I was talking with Richard after the show and teased him a bit about the new record. "Something about 2015?". He said it will be done when it's done. However, he did ALSO say that he's cutting a record with Lucy. Suggested that it could even be out before butteryfly-camo-thing-new-CD. So, even if we have to wait until 2015, but we get a new Richard record *and* a new Kaplansky/Shindell record, I'm smiling in the queue. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 11:57:16 -0400 From: Vanessa Wills Subject: Re: Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive Terence Martin became--and until the last years of his life, remained--a high school English teacher while maintaining his music career. http://tribeshill.com/?page=news&category=01--NEWS&display=4727 On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote: > Well also Lucy is a psychologist, though I'm not sure if she's in active > practice, so there's another major life vocation. Could you imagine if > Richard were active as a priest? I believe he said he had gone through, but > not completed, the Catholic seminary. I can't think, off the top of my > head, of an artist who has kept another full-time career while putting out > albums. > Matthew ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:22:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "Laurence Krulik" Subject: Re: [RS] Richard's output, Transit, etc. Norman, Amen.B b Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Norman Johnson wrote: > Few notes... > I wouldn't count South of Delia or Cry Cry Cry as Richard's original > studio works. With that, I think what can be said is that Richard's > output has slowed from an album every two or three years to one every > five years. Given his perfectionism and lack of need to produce > quantity, I'm not surprised. > Transit does not take place on the NJ Turnpike, but on I-80 going west > from the merge at the turnpike to the Delaware Water Gap (and beyond). > Richard performed an unfinished version of the song maybe a year > before the release of SNP ending with the horde going into the vortex > and with Sister Maria's role not being fleshed out. > Norman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 22:46:10 -0400 From: "Michael and Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: [RS] Inclusive?/Atlas Choking I don't understand why if a performer does not tour in a certain area, that is why one would leave a group. A group is what we all give to a group, and that is more then just where a artist is touring, etc. I follow many Canadian Artist, one in particular, Blue Rodeo, and they hardly tour in the US. I am not on a group for them, but if I knew of one, I would be on it in a heart beat. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GCI4dJuHzo A complete concert by Blue Rodeo, as I just got there new CD from 2013 today. I am sorry to see anyone leave a group, as I own my own folk group on Yahoo. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 19:53:59 -0400 From: "Michael and Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive Tim Flannery is a 3rd base coach for the San Francisco Giants and played baseball for 10 years, in the 80s and 90s, for San Diego, then managed in the minors, then worked in the Broadcast booth for San Diego. Tim has over 11 CDs, and is constantly writing music while being in baseball. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7A8RtEA65I Tim doing a Greatful Dead song with Bob Weir on this benefit DVD for a Bryan Stow, who was beaten up in LA, who is from SF and went to LA to see the Giants play. Tim is a friend, but I am sure Tim is not the norm, in having a very stressful job, as he told he is constantly in meetings, even on game day. I want to say Lucy is not doing psychological work, but I am not positive about that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMHtpiH-gO8 A neat song that Tim wrote that came about from their last World Series win, as he tells the story about what was going on, when the Giants where down and almost out on that run. A great story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7RPu-cZ9Xg A song Tim wrote when he lost a friend, as itbs a nice accoustic song. The man on Bongo is Jeff Berkly, who has his own band, and a great voice. I believe Jeff has produced many of Tim's CDs. Anyway, just one example of someone having a main career, with music on the side, and being a career in music. For a baseball player/coach, Tim is a real decent guy. Mike - -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Bullis Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:30 PM To: shindell-list@smoe.org Subject: Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive Well also Lucy is a psychologist, though I'm not sure if she's in active practice, so there's another major life vocation. Could you imagine if Richard were active as a priest? I believe he said he had gone through, but not completed, the Catholic seminary. I can't think, off the top of my head, of an artist who has kept another full-time career while putting out albums. Matthew ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:30:34 +0000 From: Dave McKay Subject: Re: [RS] Mimic not Merit > Richard did reveal the name of his next CD, due January 2015: Viceroy Merit. We're sure it's Viceroy, right? Not Vagrant? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 21:20:34 -0400 From: Laurence Krulik Subject: Re: [RS] A New Hope well played. On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Rongrittz wrote: > Cry Cry. > > > On Mar 23, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Laurence Krulik wrote: > > > > However, he did ALSO say that he's cutting a record with > > Lucy. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:12:03 -0700 From: Rongrittz Subject: Re: [RS] Richard's output, Transit, etc. Folks keep referring to Richard as a perfectionist. Why do they think so? Again, I'll use "Vuelta" as as example of why I disagree. The songs as they were being performed in the year or so before the album was released were FAR superior, in my opinion, than the studio recordings. I think the long delays sometimes sap the energy and freshness from the songs, making them less perfect, not more. As I said . . . in my opinion. > On Mar 23, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Norman Johnson wrote: > Given his perfectionism and lack of need to produce quantity, I'm not surprised. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 07:23:37 -0400 From: Doug Ashford Subject: [RS] Re: New Album Name Sorry, that was at Tuesday night's Club Passim show. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 22:23:21 -0400 From: Howie Subject: Re: [RS] Fernario I LOVED the electric/blues version of Fenario, but my wife wasn't impressed. - -Howie At 06:06 PM 3/19/2014, you wrote: >My wife, thought it was interesting hearing Fernario done in a Blue Style. > >I know someone did not care for all the electric guitars that >Shindell used, I think it was Howie?, but I have no issues with him >doing what guitars he uses. > >I like hearing variations on songs, as that is part of going to a >concert for me. > >Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:04:33 -0700 From: Rongrittz Subject: [RS] Re: Hugh Blumenfeld He is one of my all-time favorites, his debut album "The Strong in Spirit" is in my all-time top ten, and his song "Rising Moon" is the song by which I mark my 1985 introduction to contemporary folk music. Plus, he did a parody of Richard's song, called "I'm So Happy Now." > On Mar 23, 2014, at 11:07 AM, ookpik@verizon.net wrote: > > Not very well known, but I think other fans of RS might > enjoy HB as much as I do. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:30:02 -0700 From: "Matthew Bullis" Subject: Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive Well also Lucy is a psychologist, though I'm not sure if she's in active practice, so there's another major life vocation. Could you imagine if Richard were active as a priest? I believe he said he had gone through, but not completed, the Catholic seminary. I can't think, off the top of my head, of an artist who has kept another full-time career while putting out albums. Matthew ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:25:24 -0400 From: Pete Jameson Subject: [RS] This seems fairly definitive Richard Shindell performed in Portland this week and will soon be releasing a new CD titled "Viceroy Mimic." Watch all of The Newsroom Sessions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wupzH2MwqnQ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 19:29:41 -0700 From: Nancy Scott Subject: Re: [RS] Inclusive?/Atlas Choking Hi Bill, Glad you spoke up. I also live in Oregon and am continually bummed by Richards non-appearance here. I LOVED tuning in to 2 of 3 Club Passim shows via Concert Window this week- made me feel hopeful that in his absence here I can still keep up whats hes doing/ writing. And I LOVED his new song, Atlas Choking. (and I also found fun humor in Georgettes response.) That said, I heard the song from a more philosophical perspective, rather than political. I have always been drawn to Richards writing as it includes a depth of recognition of the spiritual and mysterious of our existence in addition to the mundane and physical. The song brought tears to my eyes as it evoked the recognition of the bankrupt value system that our objectivist bent has produced, again with no particular reference to politics, just the irrationality of a system that says we are going to be ok, when obviously it isnt looking good out there. But then, back in the day, I read Ayn Rand philosophically, not politically (and tho now a confimed centrist who leans left at times and right at others, I did have a season as a Libertarian). I found her philosophically naive, self-righteous, and far too optimistic about our potential.. (I dont mean to offend, but thats how I see it) - And so, with the line, "everybody everywhere, sucking in Ayns air, Atlas choking -well, the image it evoked was deeply moving and tragic to me. And brilliantly crafted, imho :) best wishes ~ - -nancy On Mar 21, 2014, at 9:40 AM, Bill Chmelir wrote: > Richard still..... still doesn't tour in the Western United States. > Not having heard the new song Atlas Choking ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 16:31:41 -0400 From: "Michael and Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive Thanks for the information about Hugh, as I heard him a sampler CD, not sure from the Dirty Linen Magazine or one of Christine Lavin CDs, like When October Goes, where I and probably many of you first heard Shindell. I have his first 3 CDs, then sort of lost touch with his career. Glad to hear what he is doing now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY3HUDhe7jk Not much on Youtube for him, as I think Rafael was the first song I heard from him. I guess this will do, as I have this CD and Money for Mozart CD. Mike - -----Original Message----- From: ookpik@verizon.net Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 2:07 PM To: shindell-list@smoe.org Subject: Re: Re: Album/life balance: was Re: [RS] This seems fairly definitive And Hugh Blumenfeld spent some years as an English teacher, then returned to school and became an MD. He's now a practicing doctor in Connecticut, which has greatly decreased his performance schedule but not (I think) eliminated it. Not very well known, but I think other fans of RS might enjoy HB as much as I do. And wasn't Richard Shindell in an Episcopalian (rather than Catholic) seminary? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 17:02:14 -0400 From: "cvz" Subject: Re: [RS] Mimic not Merit Is John Travolta in the building? - -----Original Message----- From: Dave McKay Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:30 PM To: List, Shindell Subject: Re: [RS] Mimic not Merit > Richard did reveal the name of his next CD, due January 2015: Viceroy Merit. We're sure it's Viceroy, right? Not Vagrant? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 19:12:22 -0400 From: "Michael and Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: [RS] Richard's output, Transit, etc. Yes, that is true, as I-80 crossing over the Delaware Water Gap. As the song mentions a merge from the Turnpike, however, so one who did not know the area, could think that. Neat that I-80 has been mentioned in 2 songs by Richard. http://www.stagnesnj.com/ Richard has mention that there is a actual St. Agnes church which I think he did not know at the time he wrote it. Mike - -----Original Message----- From: Norman Johnson Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 3:19 PM To: shindell-list@smoe.org Subject: [RS] Richard's output, Transit, etc. Few notes... I wouldn't count South of Delia or Cry Cry Cry as Richard's original studio works. With that, I think what can be said is that Richard's output has slowed from an album every two or three years to one every five years. Given his perfectionism and lack of need to produce quantity, I'm not surprised. Transit does not take place on the NJ Turnpike, but on I-80 going west from the merge at the turnpike to the Delaware Water Gap (and beyond). Richard performed an unfinished version of the song maybe a year before the release of SNP ending with the horde going into the vortex and with Sister Maria's role not being fleshed out. Norman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 22:30:57 -0400 From: "Michael and Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: [RS] Re: Hugh Blumenfeld many of us first heard of Shindell via the Christine Lavin CD, When October Goes, as that prompted me, a few years later to buy all 3 of Shindell's CDs at the time, as I never heard one song on all of the CDs, except the one on the Lavin CD. And what a great batch of CDs that was. The first song I and probably many of you heard before for a Hugh Blumenfeld was on Lavin's On A Winter's Night CD, Let Me Fall In Love When the Spring Comes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C9gQsmBQP0 I found it on Youtube by Googling the song title. Mike ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V12 #534 ************************************