From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V12 #395 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Sunday, February 24 2013 Volume 12 : Number 395 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [RS] Covers and Carpenters [Carol Love ] Re: [RS] More covers [Carol Love ] [RS] any Tracy fans? [Janet Cinelli ] [RS] Sweet sixteen picks [TOBY ERLICHMAN ] Re: [RS] What's "Early RS?" [Laurence Krulik ] Re: [RS] What's "Early RS?" [Janet Cinelli ] [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V12 #394 [Tom Havard ] Re: [RS] What's "Early RS?" ["cvz" ] [RS] Sweet sixteen picks [Toby ] [RS] Paddy's Green Shamrock Shore + link to purchase [Carol Love ] Re: [RS] any Tracy fans? ["Michael & Linda Marmer" ] Re: [RS] What's "Early RS?" [Laurence Krulik ] Re: [RS] Still more covers [Carol Love ] Re: [RS] More covers [Rongrittz ] Re: [RS] Covers and Carpenters ["Michael & Linda Marmer" ] [RS] RG's Sweet Sixteen [Rongrittz ] Re: [RS] Show Review Ban? ["Michael & Linda Marmer" ] [RS] Still more covers [Norman Johnson ] Re: [RS] More covers [Carol Love ] Re: [RS] Covering Tom Waits [Carol Love ] Re: [RS] Pancho & Leonard ["Michael & Linda Marmer" ] [RS] sweet sixteen [Bernadette Marian ] [RS] Show Review Ban? [Laurence Krulik ] Re: [RS] Much Madness: Sweet Sixteen. [CLAIRE LATHAM ] Re: [RS] Much Madness: Sweet Sixteen. [Jeff Bernstein ] [RS] Sweet Sixteen picks! [Norman Johnson ] Re: [RS] Much Madness: Sweet Sixteen. [Peter Booth ] Re: [RS] Show Review Ban? [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:42:04 -0500 From: Carol Love Subject: Re: [RS] Covers and Carpenters Shelda wrote: > Another singer who has done Cohen really well is Jennifer Warnes. She has > a lovely Cohen cover album ("Famous Blue Raincoat"), > ......Wow. I'm not a big Jennifer Warnes fan, although I enjoy her music, but **just** this past week I just woke up with "It Goes Like It Goes", her song that closes out "Norma Rae", stuck in my head and I HAD to purchase it. It was one of those songs I had forgotten I loved. If you want to hear it, here's a link to "alternate 1979 oscar winners" using her song to play through the visuals. ***WARNING** * "Alien" and "Apocalypse Now" were hot that year, so some of the stills are graphically violent. You may want to put on the music and switch off the visuals. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qntzo9X3_g Here's the "Famous Blue Raincoat" cover with nothing more graphic than a blue coat... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB2fb73fHCM ...CL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:53:26 -0500 From: Carol Love Subject: Re: [RS] More covers Margaret wrote: > I would add "We Belong" to this list. Written by Eric Lowen and Dan > Navarro, > recorded by Pat Benatar. However, Dan & Eric closed every show I ever > heard > them play with it. ...Wow. I did not know that. "We Belong" is the one Pat Benatar song I love on it's own merit, not because it's great 80's nostalgia for me. (The 80's were the great fuzzy decade where I came of age, went to college and closed out by marrying my husband. So, since I was really there, I don't remember the decade well... :-) Just looked up the original on you tube. Wow. Again. I notice that Dan looks a lot like Chili Pepper cousin, Dave. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDTuo5g46fU (singing starts @ 1:17) ...CL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 06:53:00 -0800 (PST) From: Janet Cinelli Subject: [RS] any Tracy fans? an interruption to all things Shindell, Tracy Grammer is playing a show today on Long Island at 2:00 in Stony Brook. Anyone in the vicinity who would like more information, email me off list. I encourage and beg anyone who isn't doing anything today to come out to the show. It's an intimate venue, think smokey nightclub without the smoke and in the middle of the afternoon. Plenty of time to get home for the Oscars!Janet ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:09:20 -0500 From: TOBY ERLICHMAN Subject: [RS] Sweet sixteen picks My picks are below 1. Nora- will always win for me.... 2. Reunion Hill 3. Last Fare of the Day 4. Wisteria -as with Nora, will probably always win 5. Fishing 6. Transit -such a well crafted song, yeah, I know, they all are, but Transit is amazing 7. Che Guevara t-shirt 8. You Stay Here On a side note, Richard did a wonderful show at the Tin Angel in Philly last night. The show was sold out, crowd was very enthusiastic and he and the band were in fine form! Toby in PA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:20:18 -0500 From: Laurence Krulik Subject: Re: [RS] What's "Early RS?" > I always look at Courier as some sort of live greatest hits up till then album, making it a perfect dividing line, so for me early RS is pre-Courier. Agree 100% ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 05:47:20 -0800 (PST) From: Janet Cinelli Subject: Re: [RS] What's "Early RS?" I agree with you Ron, this is how I also feel. It's funny when I was on line for my autograph, I heard a woman praising the "Mona" song, i.e. Mavis and wanted to buy the cd. For the life of me I couldn't remember which cd it was on. Richard said he didn't have it with him, it was on a cd put out 'years ago' and I thought that can't be right. But 9 years is years ago. He did tell her a new recording of it would be on his new album which makes me think, is this one going to be named 'Thirteen more songs you may or may not have heard.' I'm wondering why he feels he needs to rerecord these songs. And from the way he spoke about it on stage, it doesn't sound like it's going to be any time soon anyway.Janet - --- On Sun, 2/24/13, Rongrittz wrote:Is the dividing line after "Somewhere Near Paterson," meaning the first four releases are the "early" ones and "Vuelta" (now almost nine years old), "South of Delia" and "Not Far Now" are considered the "late" ones? RG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 07:56:40 -0500 From: Tom Havard Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V12 #394 Hi. Here are my choices. This was the easiest round yet, which surprised me. Funny also that I am voting for a lot of songs that I picked against earlier. - Tom 1. Nora (over May) 2. Next Best Western (over Reunion Hill) 3. Last Fare of the Day (over Mary Magdalene) 4. Wisteria (over State of the Union) 5. Fishing (over I Saw My Youth Today) 6. Transit (over Waiting for the Storm) 7. Courier (over Che Guevara T-Shirt) 8. You Stay Here (over Sparrows Point) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 14:08:49 +0100 From: Ronnie de Champs Subject: Re: [RS] Much Madness: Sweet Sixteen. 1. Nora 2. Reunion Hill 3. Mary Magdalene 4. State of the Union 5. Fishing 6. Transit 7. Courier 8. You Stay Here Ronnie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:09:38 +0100 From: Ronnie de Champs Subject: Re: [RS] What's "Early RS?" I always look at Courier as some sort of live greatest hits up till then album, making it a perfect dividing line, so for me early RS is pre-Courier Ronnie - -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Carol Love Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:32 PM To: shindell-list@smoe.org Subject: Re: [RS] What's "Early RS?" Ron wrote: > Is the dividing line after "Somewhere Near Paterson," meaning the first > four releases are the "early" ones and "Vuelta" (now almost nine years > old), "South of Delia" and "Not Far Now" are considered the "late" ones? ......My line is just past "Somewhere Near Paterson", which makes my picks almost all fall in the 1990's and the pre-Argentina years. And just in case anyone wonders, I'm a lifelong Elton John fan, but I draw that line at "Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy" released in 1975. The one beauty of the Beatles break up is they never got to their "down" phase. (Not saying RS is in a down phase, I just prefer more of his earlier songs. He still puts out songs that make me weep, though.) Maybe actors are the only ones who don't *have* to jump the shark. Sir Ian McKellen brought us "Gandalf" late in the game. Jack Nicholson can still rock it, too. .....CL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:32:29 -0500 From: Carol Love Subject: Re: [RS] What's "Early RS?" Ron wrote: > Is the dividing line after "Somewhere Near Paterson," meaning the first > four releases are the "early" ones and "Vuelta" (now almost nine years > old), "South of Delia" and "Not Far Now" are considered the "late" ones? ......My line is just past "Somewhere Near Paterson", which makes my picks almost all fall in the 1990's and the pre-Argentina years. And just in case anyone wonders, I'm a lifelong Elton John fan, but I draw that line at "Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy" released in 1975. The one beauty of the Beatles break up is they never got to their "down" phase. (Not saying RS is in a down phase, I just prefer more of his earlier songs. He still puts out songs that make me weep, though.) Maybe actors are the only ones who don't *have* to jump the shark. Sir Ian McKellen brought us "Gandalf" late in the game. Jack Nicholson can still rock it, too. .....CL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:09:28 -0500 From: "cvz" Subject: Re: [RS] What's "Early RS?" janet sez He did tell her a new recording of it would be on his new album which makes me think, is this one going to be named 'Thirteen more songs you may or may not have heard.' I'm wondering why he feels he needs to rerecord these songs. And from the way he spoke about it on stage, it doesn't sound like it's going to be any time soon anyway.Janet Hmmm. I guess that's possible. Lynn Miles, one of my female favorites, is on her 3rd Black Flowers cd on which she re-records most of her songs stripped down - she sings them with usually just a guitar or piano instead of the usual full backup. I actually like the black flowers stuff better than the originals. She also sticks re-done songs on her "production" cds so she really gives all her stuff quite a workout. I still like her though. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:44:17 -0500 From: Toby Subject: [RS] Sweet sixteen picks My picks are in bold 1. Nora vs May-Nora will always win for me.... 2. Reunion Hill vs Next Best Western 3. Last Fare of the Day vs Mary Magdalene 4. Wisteria vs State of the Union-as with Nora, will probably always win for me 5. Fishing vs I Saw My Youth Today 6. Transit vs. Waiting for the Storm-such a well crafted song, yeah, I know, they all are, but Transit is amazing 7. Courier vs. Che Guevara T-shirt 8. You Stay Here vs. Sparrows Point On a side note, Richard did a wonderful show at the Tin Angel in Philly last night. The show was sold out, crowd was very enthusiastic and he and the band were in fine form! Toby in PA Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:23:41 -0500 From: Carol Love Subject: [RS] Paddy's Green Shamrock Shore + link to purchase John wrote: > RS' cover of this song is one of only two versions of this to which I > can listen--the other being Paul Brady and Andy Irvine's. ...I had thought that Bob Dylan covered "Paddy's Green Shamrock Shore", but I was confusing it with "Lakes of Ponchartrain" ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1kP3aJAVw ). RS has stated out right that Dylan is a major influence, so I wouldn't be surprised if that lead to him covering "Ponchartrain". Here's a link to buying RS's Falcon Ridge performance of "Paddy": "http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002V4PRY2/?tag=lastfmmp3-20 (Dar's "If I Wrote You" is also there.) The artists aren't listed, but that is RS on track #9. *Cheers!* ...Carol ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:10:23 -0500 From: Carol Love Subject: [RS] My First Blue Divide My first RS show was 1994/95 at The Friends Meeting House in St. Petersburg. It is a small Quaker church and the perfect setting. There was a huge amount of serendipity involved. We lived in a one room studio with a toddler and at her nap time I had to play some soft music so she could sleep and I would have something be white noise to hide me moving about. I confessed to the lady at the local independent record store (remember THOSE??) that if I heard Peter, Paul and Mommy, or James Taylor's Greatest hits one more time, I might lose it. She gave me the Christine Lavin sampler, "When October Goes". I immediately fell in love with both John Gorka and RS. In the beginning my love for Gorka was stronger. THEN, I just noticed in the paper that RS was playing at the Friend's house the next night. (This all happened in the time frame of 1-2 months!!) Hubby and I went and I was musically re-arranged forever. The show was small and intimate. RS's (ex) wife and oldest son lived in the area so they were there and his son was scampering about, but well behaved. Blue Divide was hot off the presses and I feel like he played at least half the album. He also played "By Now" and introduced it by saying, "I'm going to take you to a dark and creepy place now..." I'm sorry I can't tell you more of the set list, but it was heavy on Sparrows Point & BD with a few tasty covers. It was a wonderful and intimate show. It would have never been possible 2000+ miles from NYC, if his son didn't live in our area. We benefited many times in the mid 90's from him having family in this area and deciding to do a show while he was here. To show how things change - this coming March he has sold out the cafe setting at the Tampa Bay Performing Arts Center. A long way from the little Quaker room. I am not going to that show, but will see him the night before at a smaller house show. Yay!! (I'd do both, but Tampa is 45 minutes away and I have to be up for work at 5 AM. I'm sure the house show will shiver me timbers.) .....Carol ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 09:59:41 -0500 From: "Michael & Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: [RS] any Tracy fans? http://www.tracygrammer.com/php/ontheroad.php Mike - -----Original Message----- From: Janet Cinelli Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:53 AM To: shindell-list@smoe.org Subject: [RS] any Tracy fans? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:18:22 -0500 From: Laurence Krulik Subject: Re: [RS] What's "Early RS?" > The one beauty of the Beatles break up is they never got to their "down" > phase. (Not saying RS is in a down phase, I just prefer more of his > earlier songs. He still puts out songs that make me weep, though.) The Beatles are one of those rare bands whose best albums came out at the end of their career. So while they never "got" to their "down" phase, they may have started there. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 19:01:50 -0500 From: Carol Love Subject: Re: [RS] Still more covers Norman wrote: > Also, Jules Shear wrote If she knew what she wants that became a hit for > the Bangles. Here's his version of the song. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=UYTND2ZwrGI > > It is very, very different. ......Sometimes a song goes beyond "cover" and is a total remaking. Purists will hate me but I like what Gary Jules did with "Mad World" more than the Tears for Fears original. (And yes, I like Adam Lambert's version, too...) ...CL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:00:03 -0800 From: Rongrittz Subject: Re: [RS] More covers Long time Lowen & Navarro fan. Saw Dan do a solo gig the night before Eric passed away last year, and he ended the show with that song, unplugged out in the audience. On Feb 23, 2013, at 4:04 PM, margaret kraft wrote: > I would add "We Belong" to this list. Written by Eric Lowen and Dan Navarro, > recorded by Pat Benatar. However, Dan & Eric closed every show I ever heard > them play with it. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:51:35 -0500 From: "Michael & Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: [RS] Covers and Carpenters Someone made a movie about Karen Carpenter using Barbie Dolls, 45 minute movie. The family sued. The movie is on line, if you Google it. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 19:04:19 -0500 From: margaret kraft Subject: RE: [RS] More covers I would add "We Belong" to this list. Written by Eric Lowen and Dan Navarro, recorded by Pat Benatar. However, Dan & Eric closed every show I ever heard them play with it. Margaret > > There are also some technical covers where the best known version of > the song is actually a cover. Janis Joplin was not the first to record > Me and Bobby McGee - Gordon Lightfoot did it a year earlier. June > Carter's sister Anita recorded Ring of Fire first - that's how Johnny > heard it. > > > Norman ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 19:27:55 -0800 From: Rongrittz Subject: [RS] RG's Sweet Sixteen Mostly easy...my favorites stay my favorites. Mostly. 1. May over Nora 2. Reunion Hill over Next Best Western 3. Last Fare of the Day over Mary Magdalene 4. Wisteria over State of the Union 5. I Saw My Youth Today over Fishing 6. Transit over Waiting for the Storm (the only other song it breaks my heart to see go) 7. Courier over Che Guevara T-Shirt (toughest choice so far this tournament for me) 8. Sparrows Point over You Stay Here ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 14:16:53 -0500 From: "Michael & Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: [RS] Show Review Ban? delete key works fine. Seeing Shindell tonight. Mike - -----Original Message----- From: Laurence Krulik Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:04 PM To: shindell-list@smoe.org Subject: [RS] Show Review Ban? Folks - I realize some people want to remain "Media Blind" to Richard's shows in terms of the setlist and anecdotes, but candidly if we can't share that on this list then where can we? I always like getting a rundown of the show and one of the things I look forward to hearing about from the list. Can I simply suggest people add "spoiler alert" in the subject line if reviewing a show in detail and including the setlist? Folks who want to remain "blind" can simply delete while others can get their Richard dose. - -LK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:09:11 -0500 From: Gene Frey Subject: [RS] Sweet 16 Hey you guys, I'm not entirely sure I followed the plan for this round, but as far as I can tell it's pairings as before. If so, here is my ballot: 1. May (over Nora) Tough one, but the cinematic quality of May, as well as the quality of the Fast Folk version, takes it. 2. Next Best Western (over Reunion Hill) NBW was the first Shindell song I really loved. 3. Last Fare of the Day (over Mary Magdalene) Hope (or Grace) agrees with me. 4. Wisteria (over State of the Union) By a mile. 5. Fishing (over I Saw My Youth Today) As much a representative Shindell song as any, to me. 6. Transit (over Waiting For the Storm) Who did we decide was playing Sister Maria in the movie? I think I voted for Dana Delany. 7. Courier (over Che Guevara T-Shirt) Two memorable characters, but Courier is just too good to lose. 8. Sparrows Point (over You Stay Here) Two characters in difficult times, but Richard brings William Taylor to life as much as any of his subjects. Gene F. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 18:35:26 -0500 From: Norman Johnson Subject: [RS] Still more covers Peter Mulvey does an amazing cover of Dar's The Ocean. It's on his Ten Thousand Mornings album, which was recorded at a Boston T stop (I think Davis square). During the last la la las, a train comes in. Funny that the two best covers of Dar's songs were done by men. Also, Jules Shear wrote If she knew what she wants that became a hit for the Bangles. Here's his version of the song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYTND2ZwrGI It is very, very different. Norman ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:37:50 -0500 From: Carol Love Subject: Re: [RS] More covers Norman wrote: >> And then there are cases when another artist covers a song before the original artist did. That happened with >> Richard's cover of Calling the Moon - SNP came out about eight months before Dar's The Green World. Ron wrote: > Making it the definitive version in my book, and although not an RS > original, one of my top ten favorite songs he's recorded. .....It's never been Dar's song for me. However, there are very Dar characteristics in the lyrics. "As Tennessee wandered in moth eaten robes..." Is it the state of Tennessee??? Tennessee Williams???? What???? ....CL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 18:06:14 -0500 From: Carol Love Subject: Re: [RS] Covering Tom Waits Mike wrote: > Ol' '55" is a song by American musician Tom Waits. It is the opening track > and lead single from Waits' debut studio album, Closing Time, released in > March 1973 on Asylum Records. Written by Waits and produced by Jerry > Yester, "Ol' '55" was a minor hit. The song has been covered by numerous > artists, most notably by the Eagles on their On the Border (1974). > > Waits has been critical of cover versions of the song, admitting that he > was "not that particularly crazy about [the Eagles'] rendition of it ... I > thought their version was a little antiseptic."[1] > ......Tom probably said that, but I've read that he is a control freak about his music. He hasn't hesitated to sue when his music has been used without authorization. So, guys, on some level he's even OK with Rod Stewart. My vote would be Springsteen w/Jersey Girl. ..CL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:49:54 -0500 From: "Michael & Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: [RS] Pancho & Leonard One of my favorite CD's "Other Voices, Other Rooms". Mike - -----Original Message----- From: RFC Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 2:41 PM To: shindell-list@smoe.org Subject: Re: [RS] Pancho & Leonard Re: "Other Voices, Other Rooms." I love half of it to death...Great Divide, Clare to Here, Do Re Mi, Cowboy's Lament, the Prine cover and a few others. The rest are snoozers to me, but Nanci sure knows how to do covers. On Feb 23, 2013, at 1:42 AM, john clC)irigh wrote: > I really like Nanci's compositions but this is one of my desert island > albums. Not a skipper on it. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 20:04:57 -0500 From: John McDonnell Subject: [RS] Covers Gene wrote: >>>Oh, and Ron referenced "Paddy's Green Shamrock Shore" as unreleased a couple of digest back. It has not officially been released, but there is a version on the "Main Stage Live - Falcon Ridge Folk Festival" CD that was put out back in 1999 or 2000<<<<. RS' cover of this song is one of only two versions of this to which I can listen--the other being Paul Brady and Andy Irvine's. I find even the the title irritating in that "Quiet Man" sort of way. Coincidentally I saw RS do version of "Mary and the Soldier" on Youtube, which is also a song Brady and Irvine do (I prefer their version, but only slightly, and I liked RS's a lot). There was another curious overlap too. Any Irvine was a founding member of Planxty of which Brady later became a member. Their first three albums became seminal albums in the annals of modern Irish folk music (they had three others recorded later, after the broke up and reunited), but they were ripped off and had the rights to the music sold to an American label which really did not know what gems they purchased, and put out some cheaply produced compilations which still irritates the artists to this day. The label? Shanachie... John McD ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 21:45:46 -0500 From: Bernadette Marian Subject: [RS] sweet sixteen 1. Nora The hardest choice for me in this round. Sigh. 2. Reunion Hill 3. Mary Magdalene 4. Wisteria 5. Fishing 6.Transit 7. Courier 8. Sparrows Point And another tough choice I like the idea of ranking 1-8 for the next round. Bernadette ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 14:04:31 -0500 From: Laurence Krulik Subject: [RS] Show Review Ban? Folks - I realize some people want to remain "Media Blind" to Richard's shows in terms of the setlist and anecdotes, but candidly if we can't share that on this list then where can we? I always like getting a rundown of the show and one of the things I look forward to hearing about from the list. Can I simply suggest people add "spoiler alert" in the subject line if reviewing a show in detail and including the setlist? Folks who want to remain "blind" can simply delete while others can get their Richard dose. - -LK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:52:16 +0000 (GMT) From: CLAIRE LATHAM Subject: Re: [RS] Much Madness: Sweet Sixteen. I like that... It would really make me think of the songs worth to me. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:22:33 -0500 From: "cvz" Subject: Re: [RS] Your first Richard Shindell concert It was quite some time ago, I don't remember the date, and I surely don't remember the set list, however I do remember driving driving from KC to Chicago with a friend to see Richard perform at the Old Town School of Folk Music. Eliza Gilkyson opened. He did not play reunion hill. At the end of the show I told him I drove all that way to hear that song so he took us back in a hallway after most had left, and played it for us, including Eliza. carrie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 6:40:11 -0800 From: Subject: [RS] Much Madness: Sweet Sixteen. Welcome to the Sweet Sixteen round of Much Madness. All I can say is . . . wow. You have until next Thursday. Let the difficulty begin. 1. May Nora 2. Reunion Hill Next Best Western 3. Mary Magdalene Last Fare of the Day 4. Wisteria State of the Union 5. Fishing I Saw My Youth Today 6. Transit Waiting for the Storm 7. Courier Che Guevara T-Shirt 8. You Stay Here Sparrows Point ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:39:03 -0500 From: Jeff Bernstein Subject: Re: [RS] Much Madness: Sweet Sixteen. That works! Jeff On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 3:27 PM, wrote: > >> As we are reaching the quarter-finals, let me suggest an alternative to > the brackets. How about ranking all remaining songs 1-8, and then > tabulating the rankings. A bit more work, but it may give greater insight > into how folks view the songs. It will also eliminate having to choose from > head to head pairings. Not practical in earlier rounds, but with only 8 > songs remaining, it seems reasonable. << > > I think that's a great suggestion . . . I'd be down with it. #1 would get > 8 points, #2 would get 7 points, down to #8 getting 1 point. Right? > > RG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:45:05 -0500 From: Norman Johnson Subject: [RS] Sweet Sixteen picks! This was hard!! 1. May Nora Choice; Nora. This is an interesting pairing -B The fugitive vs the "self-inflicted exiled". With most pairings, May would be a choice, but Nora is one of my absolute favorites. I could listen to Nora a thousand times. 2. Reunion Hill B B B B Next Best Western Choice: Reunion Hill. Another hard one. I feel the loneliness and searching of NBW, but Reunion Hill is so well crafted and beautiful.B 3. Mary Magdalene Last Fare of the Day Choice: Mary Magdalene. As Carol would say, Sophie is getting a workout. B B B B 4. Wisteria State of the Union Choice: State of the Union. Politics over nostalgia. Plus a great story. B B B B 5. Fishing B B B B I Saw My Youth Today Choice: Fishing. Again,B Politics over nostalgia.B 6. Transit Waiting for the Storm Choice: Transit. This one might bring Rod Serling back from the grave. B B B B 7. Courier Che Guevara T-Shirt B B B B Choice: Cuurier. Another tough one. 8. You Stay Here Sparrows Point Choice: You Stay Here. Still tough. Norman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:09:26 -0500 From: Peter Booth Subject: Re: [RS] Much Madness: Sweet Sixteen. > May > Next Best Western > Last Fare of the Day > State of the Union > I Saw My Youth Today > Transit > Courier > Sparrows Point ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:15:39 -0500 From: Pete Jameson Subject: [RS] Regis vs. Walter Those of us "Last Fare" folks, many of whom deeply admire the craftmanship of "Arrowhead", would probably liken it more to Gandhi defeats Patton Peace, Pater in PA On Feb 22, 2013, at 11:43 AM, John McDonnell wrote: > Ron wrote: > >>>> And if you thought THIS round was tough, just wait<<<<< > > Having picked 9 losers--a couple of which I was certain would be in > the Final Four at least--I no longer have that much skin in the game. > In looking over what's left, I think I will have an easier time. Last > Fare over Arrowhead??? That's like picking Regis Philbin over Walter > Kronkite to me...... > > John McD ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:54:19 -0800 From: Subject: Re: [RS] Show Review Ban? >> Folks who want to remain "blind" can simply delete while others can get their Richard dose. << If people want to write "Review" in their subject line, great. Or "Spoiler." That's fine. Or you can do what Georgette did -- which I respect -- which was to make the PERSONAL decision to not read her Shindell-list Digest emails until she'd had an opportunity to see a show in person. But for the majority of the list who will likely NOT be able to see a show, and who only experience them vicariously through the list, I just want to remind folks that you're free to read -- or not read -- at your own peril. Thanks . . . bring on the reviews!! RG ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V12 #395 ************************************