From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V12 #294 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Monday, February 4 2013 Volume 12 : Number 294 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Richard radio interview on WUMB, this Thursday 2/7, 2pm [Vanessa Wil] Re: [RS] Fwd: [Janet Cinelli ] Re: [RS] RS on concert window [Vanessa Wills ] Re: [RS] Much Madness, Round One. [] Re: [RS] RS on concert window ["cvz" ] [RS] watch it on your tv [Pete Jameson ] [RS] RS on concert window ["cvz" ] [RS] Fwd: [Gene Frey ] Re: [RS] Fwd: [Vanessa Wills ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 14:40:41 -0500 From: Vanessa Wills Subject: [RS] Richard radio interview on WUMB, this Thursday 2/7, 2pm Richard is doing an interview and live in-studio performance this Thursday on Dave Palmater's show. http://www.wumb.org/programs/thisweek.php There's information on WUMB's homepage about how to listen online: http://www.wumb.org - --Vanessa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 10:37:27 -0800 (PST) From: Janet Cinelli Subject: Re: [RS] Fwd: I laughed when I read this. It's true, I've seen the look too! - --- On Mon, 2/4/13, Gene Frey wrote: 1. You Stay Here Plus, it's a great song, has no choruses, and I've seen it performed 25 times and love to watch the look on Richard's face when he realizes he's not sure which verse comes next. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 11:23:45 -0500 From: Vanessa Wills Subject: Re: [RS] RS on concert window And Thursday, and Friday! http://www.concertwindow.com/schedule Thursday, he'll have Marc Shulman and Lincoln Schleiffer, and on Friday, he'll also add Joe Bonadio (drums) to the line-up. I'm aiming to catch all three shows and can hardly wait for Wednesday to get here. :) It's cool we get to catch the start of the tour, and several different line-ups, even if only from behind our computer screens. Those of you who'll be at Club Passim in the flesh this week are even luckier, of course. By the way, if you are planning to catch all three shows, this could be a good time to sign up for their monthly plan which is $8.99/month (you can uns*bscribe from the monthly plan at any time). And if you're brand new to Concert Window and not too sure about it yet, you could consider taking advantage of a free introductory three-week trial membership http://www.concertwindow.com/subscriptions/new . - --Vanessa On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:44 AM, cvz wrote: > Richard Shindell with Marc Shulman this wednesday 6 feb 8pmb club passim. > In case anyone is interested who hasnb t yet joined concert window. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 9:11:05 -0800 From: Subject: Re: [RS] Much Madness, Round One. Hey all . . . voting's real close, so if you haven't picked your favorite songs in each of these pairings, get outta your footie pajamas and get your vote on!! 1. Mariana's Table You Stay Here 2. A Tune For Nowhere Waiting For The Storm 3. Abuelita Wisteria 4. Last Fare Of The Day Get Up Clara 5. Ascent TV Light 6. Balloon Man Easy Street 7. Confession Fenario 8. Howling At The Trouble By Now 9. I Saw My Youth Today You Again 10. Parasol Ants There Goes Mavis 11.One Man's Arkansas State of the Union 12. On A Sea Of Fleur-De-Lis Hazel's House 13. Mary Magdalene So Says The Whipporwill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 12:57:51 -0500 From: "cvz" Subject: Re: [RS] RS on concert window Wow! I got so excited about seeing him on wednesday I didnt move down the list. I was too busy dancing a jig. carrie from kc currently in boynton beach And Thursday, and Friday! http://www.concertwindow.com/schedule . ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 12:15:07 -0500 From: Pete Jameson Subject: [RS] watch it on your tv Vanessa, I purchased a male-to-male cable so I could watch Internet programming on our tv. I think it was maybe $30, but it has allowed us to break the shackles of cable drudgery and watch youtube videos, hulu, netflix, even a new series that netflix produced with Kevin Spacey that's reminiscent of The West Wing -- but not quite has hyper-conversant. It's an easy connection to a port on your computer and tv, if you have a laptop. Try Radio Shack for a consultation. Cheers, Pete ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 10:44:53 -0500 From: "cvz" Subject: [RS] RS on concert window Richard Shindell with Marc Shulman this wednesday 6 feb 8pmb club passim. In case anyone is interested who hasnbt yet joined concert window. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 13:28:49 -0500 From: Gene Frey Subject: [RS] Fwd: Hey you guys, Ron woke me up and mentioned this project, and it sounds like it's going to be excellent. 1. You Stay Here I chose this one because Isabel and I were camping several years ago and went to a supermarket for supplies. We got on line and I realized that we had not bought firewood. I said 'You stay here, and I'll go look for wood.' Somehow, we are still married. Plus, it's a great song, has no choruses, and I've seen it performed 25 times and love to watch the look on Richard's face when he realizes he's not sure which verse comes next. 2. Waiting For The Storm I understand this character less than some others, but I think it's a very evocative song. 3. Wisteria Tough call. 'Abuelita' would win groups 5, 6, 10 and 11 in a walk, but 'Wisteria' is at the very top of my list. 4. Last Fare Of The Day No contest. 5. Ascent Boy, two very different subjects here, eh? 6. Balloon Man Barely. 7. Confession Classic Shindell character study, and I think of it as period-specific rather than dated because it is so precise in nailing the character. 8. By Now A great song, but the pick is bolstered by the memory of the shocked reactions of the old-school Shindell List folks who could not get over the idea that the driver was not just a nice old guy giving a young woman a ride. Insert 'Bwahahahaha' by Vanessa here. 9. I Saw My Youth Today I never appreciated this one that much when it was new, but I've listened a few times recently and it has grown on me. 10. There Goes Mavis Can I write in a candidate? Lesser of two here. 11. State of the Union More like SNP-era Richard than some of his other recent stuff, to me. 12. On A Sea Of Fleur-De-Lis One of my favorite Shindell songs musically in addition to the poetic gibberish of the lyrics (and I mean that in only the most complimentary way) 13. Mary Magdalene Another tough call, and either would have won most of the other groups. 'Mary Magdalene' was my gateway Shindell, through Cry3, and as such remains untouchable for me. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 14:49:38 -0500 From: Vanessa Wills Subject: Re: [RS] Fwd: Yes, I LOL'd when I read Gene's explanation of his vote for "You Stay Here". I know that look well! Gene also wrote: <<8. By Now A great song, but the pick is bolstered by the memory of the shocked reactions of the old-school Shindell List folks who could not get over the idea that the driver was not just a nice old guy giving a young woman a ride. Insert 'Bwahahahaha' by Vanessa here.>> It's still curious to me that there could be any doubt as to the meaning of this song. Folks must have been listening to it with a good helping of "say it ain't so". And Gene further wrote: <<10. There Goes Mavis Can I write in a candidate? Lesser of two here.>> This is another recurrent Much Madness theme. The "Wisteria" vs. "Abuelita" match-up is a tough call because they are both such great songs, but the "There Goes Mavis" vs. "Parasol Ants" match-up is equally tough for a number of us because, at least from what I've gathered, neither song is a big favorite with most of the active listers. Chris Foxwell pointed out a few years back that Richard is experimenting with more abstract lyrics that do not have a "point", moving more towards "descriptive" rather than "narrative" songwriting ( http://www.smoe.org/lists/shindell-list/v09.n211). "Mavis" and "Ants" both, quite arguably, represent moves toward that more "descriptive" style. But most of us on the list prize Richard's gifts as a storyteller, which may be part of why these songs tend to be less popular. It's also interesting that most people have a slight preference for "Mavis", which is the more narrative of the two. (But then, I also tend to think it has the better melody, as well.) On the other hand, and I find this very intriguing, the "Last Fare of the Day" vs. "Get Up Clara" match-up has *also* been an extremely tough call for many of us. Here you have one song that is a clear exemplar of Richard's narrative songwriting style, definitely with a "point", matched up against another song that is almost perfectly "pointless" in the sense of not really having any social agenda. "Last Fare" is great for reasons we've covered many times on this list. I voted for "Last Fare" but also tend to love the existential absurdity of "Get Up Clara", its winking humor, and the grin you can hear in Richard's voice when he sings it. I haven't been counting up the votes but it's my impression that "Clara" is giving "Last Fare" a run for its money. Interesting! Is it that we won't hold "pointlessness" against a song? Is it that we like "Clara" *in spite* of its "pointlessness" (I'm pretty sure the "pointlessness" of "Clara" is an integral part of what I like about it)? Do we tend to be less enamored of "Mavis" and "Ants" because we perceive them as "pointless" or is it for some other reason? Was Richard right when he said melody and chord-progression mattered, but lyrics, not so much? I'll be thinking more about what we can conclude from all this but for now I better get back to work. ::sigh:: Love and Bwahahahahas, V P.S. Thank you again, Ron, for setting up Much Madness. I am amazed that after all these years and all these listens, I am finding brand new ways to hear and to think about these songs. On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Janet Cinelli wrote: > I laughed when I read this. It's true, I've seen the look too! > > --- On Mon, 2/4/13, Gene Frey wrote: > > > 1. You Stay Here > > Plus, it's a great > song, has no choruses, and I've seen it performed 25 times and love to > watch the look on Richard's face when he realizes he's not sure which > verse comes next. ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V12 #294 ************************************