From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V12 #158 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Tuesday, October 16 2012 Volume 12 : Number 158 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [RS] Digest Tangle ["Michael & Linda Marmer" ] Re: [RS] Digest Tangle [Howie ] Re: [RS] Subjectivity ["Michael & Linda Marmer" ] Re: [RS] Cellematographers ["Michael & Linda Marmer" ] [RS] Digest Tangle [Dave McKay ] Re: [RS] A Shindell Primer [Johannes Schult ] Re: [RS] RS sampler. [rongrittz@aol.com] Re: [RS] A Shindell Primer [rongrittz@aol.com] [RS] Shindell Newbie... [Carol Love ] Re: [RS] A Shindell Primer ["Michael & Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: [RS] Digest Tangle Tangled Up Puppet? Could not resist. Harry, you died too young. Mike - -----Original Message----- From: Howie Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:10 PM To: List, Shindell Subject: Re: [RS] Digest Tangle If it gets too scrambled, you might even see a post from me! - -Howie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:10:54 -0400 From: Howie Subject: Re: [RS] Digest Tangle If it gets too scrambled, you might even see a post from me! - -Howie At 06:14 AM 10/16/2012, Dave McKay wrote: >Good grief, the Shindell list digest is unreadable at the moment! Over and >above the unnecessary wholesale quoting of previous posts, the posts >themselves are appearing out of order. > >For instance, digest #151 (http://www.smoe.org/lists/shindell-list/v12.n151) >contains, from top to bottom: > >1) A Mike Marmer post, quoting Pete Jameson (5), quoting Johannes Schult >(3). >2) A Ron G post. >3) The Johannes Schult post. >4) A Norman Johnson post, selectively quoting a Carol Love post which >hasn't surfaced in a digest at all. >5) The Pete Jameson post, quoting Johannes Schult (3). > >And digests #152 and #153 have been generated two minutes apart, containing >one message each! > >Has anyone got the keys to the list to check what's going on? > >Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:48:13 -0400 From: "Michael & Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: [RS] Subjectivity I too feel that Last Fare of the Day is one of Shindell best songs. As it is hard to pick a "best" song with Shindell' music. We all have our favorites as there is no right or wrong in what we all might like. Another song about 9-11 which is really moving, is Garnet Rogers "Grace" as this man is waiting for his wife or girlfriend to come home, but she does not. Mike - -----Original Message----- From: Carol Love Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:52 PM To: shindell-list@smoe.org Subject: Re: [RS] Subjectivity Pedro/Pierre wrote: > ...Last Fare is an exceptional song...and it still brings sorrow, even if > there is hope...and grace... .....Am I being cynical or is this also the rare Shindell song that ends with hope?? It moves from death and defeat and cruel rain to birth and hope and sweet rain. I feel like the average Shindell ballad ends "....three days west of Normandy with a rifle in my hand." Don't get me wrong, I'm all about the dark night of the soul. However, I think it is fitting when talking about 9-11, especially in retrospect, to mention hope and carrying on. I actually did like Alan Jackson's "Where Were You (When The World Stopped Turning)." when it came out immediately following the attacks, but it was a song for the moment not one to be a "keeper". "Last Fare" can have me reflect back but not feel gut punched. Not to mention the poetic genius of comparing an experienced cabby weaving through traffic to ballet dancing. Also it speaks to what one CAN do after tragedy. The driver can't do anything about the twin towers, but he can keep taking New Yorkers to where they need to go. I think it's one of Shindell's most brilliant songs ever. ~ Carol, originally from Clearwater ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:07:58 -0400 From: "Michael & Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: [RS] Cellematographers Actually, I just started to do some Youtubing of concerts and I use a Cannon camera and the sound is really good. And I do enjoy the show while doing this and I have this to enjoy for ever and to share with others. this is from the Birchmere in Alexandria, VA one of the premier music halls in America. This is Alan Doyle, one of the lead singers from Great Big Sea, as he has a solo career too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jw_rbl3OlQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MatXONiAm4g The one above is from a place called Jammin' Java in Arlington VA as this is the Kennedy's, Pete and Maura Kennedy doing a Dave Carter song. Richard has play here many times. The sound is outstanding, as this was my first attempt on recording a concert. I did not have the video set to the highest recording quality. And I did enjoy the show and I have this forever on Youtube for fans to listen and/or watch. Many of the bootleg concerts I have are high quality audio, many from the soundboard. And I do support the artist in full by buying all the commercial material they have and I attend their concerts when they come to my area that I live in. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:52:18 -0400 From: "Michael & Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: [RS] A Shindell Primer I don't think there is a bad song by Richard to introduce someone to his music. We all have personal favorites and that is fine. It is very difficult to make one CD of his songs from all the commercial or studio CDs he has put out. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:44:24 -0400 From: Bart Gallagher Subject: [RS] Cellematographers Yeah. Those cell phone cellematographers are obnoxious; all those hands-up screens lit-up. And the sound sucks. I don't even bother with those YouTube music vids. Bart On Oct 16, 2012, at 4:55 AM, shindell-list-digest wrote: > Moral of the story: folks if you want the more obscure stuff ~ put down > your cell phones. > > ~ Carol ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:14:52 +0100 From: Dave McKay Subject: [RS] Digest Tangle Good grief, the Shindell list digest is unreadable at the moment! Over and above the unnecessary wholesale quoting of previous posts, the posts themselves are appearing out of order. For instance, digest #151 (http://www.smoe.org/lists/shindell-list/v12.n151) contains, from top to bottom: 1) A Mike Marmer post, quoting Pete Jameson (5), quoting Johannes Schult (3). 2) A Ron G post. 3) The Johannes Schult post. 4) A Norman Johnson post, selectively quoting a Carol Love post which hasn't surfaced in a digest at all. 5) The Pete Jameson post, quoting Johannes Schult (3). And digests #152 and #153 have been generated two minutes apart, containing one message each! Has anyone got the keys to the list to check what's going on? Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:19:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Johannes Schult Subject: Re: [RS] A Shindell Primer Michael & Linda Marmer hat am 16. Oktober 2012 um 15:52 geschrieben: > I don't think there is a bad song by Richard to introduce someone to his > music. "The Weather"? Okay, it helps if you don't want to end up with "Suicide is Painless". ;-) Johannes ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:16:50 -0400 (EDT) From: rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] RS sampler. >> And clearly all this Richard bickering in indicative of the starvation we're experiencing without a new record in some time now... << Not sure I'd call any of what we've been talking about "bickering," (and trust me, this list HAS seen some bickering in its day), but yeah, it sure would be nice to get some new Richard music. And as far as my comment about "Last Fare of the Day" not being an epic recording on "Vuelta," I dunno, there's just something about it that's not as grand as its story line. Never really liked the drums on it . . . RG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:10:52 -0400 (EDT) From: rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] A Shindell Primer I only wish he'd done a better take on the song on "Vuelta." To me, "Last Fare of the Day" is an epic song without an epic version.. >>........I dispute you Pedro. You had me until Vuelta. "Last Fare of the Day" is hands down the best song. It is a song that really captures the sorrow of 9-11, but without any patriotic jingoism. Not an easy thing to do. << ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 14:51:31 -0400 From: Carol Love Subject: [RS] Shindell Newbie... Hey, I just found out a good friend, guitarist and folk music lover has never heard RS. My question is, if you were making a sampler for a Shindell "virgin", what would you put on the CD?? I have to confess that his first four albums, plus Cry, Cry, Cry are my favorites, but there is almost 2-3 songs on every one of his albums I can't live without. Ideas??? Musts??? What's YOUR favorite song?? ....Carol ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 13:01:05 -0400 From: "Michael & Linda Marmer" Subject: Re: [RS] A Shindell Primer Yikes, not familiar with a song of his about Suicide. Mike - -----Original Message----- From: Johannes Schult Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:19 AM To: shindell-list@smoe.org Subject: Re: [RS] A Shindell Primer Michael & Linda Marmer hat am 16. Oktober 2012 um 15:52 geschrieben: > I don't think there is a bad song by Richard to introduce someone to his > music. "The Weather"? Okay, it helps if you don't want to end up with "Suicide is Painless". ;-) Johannes ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V12 #158 ************************************