From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V12 #41 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Friday, October 7 2011 Volume 12 : Number 041 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [RS] Nora [Norman Johnson ] [RS] Re: hey, hey [Dave McKay ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 17:32:21 -0400 From: Norman Johnson Subject: Re: [RS] Nora Martin wrote: >> The impression I get from it is that they have had an affair, or >> perhaps just been in love, though she is married. The main >> reference is of course Eloise and Abelard, who I seem to recall >> were a student and teacher who fell in love in mediaeval times. I >> don't remember the details, but there was a something about not >> being allowed to marry, but still going ahead, but them both >> separating and living lives in penance. Something like that.<< Martin, That's the gist, but there's a lot more. Abelard was one of the leading scholars of the day (roughly 900 years ago). They not only married secretly, but had a child, Astrolabe. Heloise's uncle was so upset that he Abelard castrated (!). They exchanged letters at various times in their lives. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Abelard Carol: didn't you also think Nora was dead? Norman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:31:40 +0100 From: Dave McKay Subject: [RS] Re: hey, hey Norman wrote: > That reminds me of the Nellie MacKay "Dog song". Surely you mean the Nellie McKay song? :-) (She even pronounces her surname correctly, bless her.) Dave. ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V12 #41 ***********************************