From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V10 #107 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Sunday, May 31 2009 Volume 10 : Number 107 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [RS] Euro tour news [Carol Love ] [RS] Nora [Carol Love ] Re: [RS] Blue divide and other love songs [] [RS] Euro tour news: house concert [Ronnie de Champs ] Re: [RS] Euro tour news: house concert [Carol Love ] Re: [RS] Euro tour news [Chris Foxwell ] Re: [RS] Euro tour news: house concert [] RE: [RS] Euro tour news: house concert [Ronnie de Champs Subject: Re: [RS] Euro tour news On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Ronnie de Champs < ronniedechamps@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> just remembered in Volendam he played a version of Wayfaring Stranger too<<<< ......Hey, that's something new on the set list, isn't it??? Gritz?????? I loved when he used to include the covers: "Paddy's Green Shamrock Shore" and Nanci Griffith's "Once in a Very Blue Moon". Those seem to be out of the picture now, though. For me there was a buzz in knowing there were one or two favorites I was ONLY going to hear at a show. Ronnie, have fun at your house show!!! (RS seems more open to requests at those events, too....) *Ciao!* ......Carol ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:37:07 -0400 From: Carol Love Subject: [RS] Nora On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:22 PM, wrote: >>>>Nora has an almost timeless feeling, and not just for the references to Abelard and Heloise. It's contemporary could be any time in this century or the last one.<<<< ........OK, I was just listening to Nora the other day. The line repeats, "Nora, it was no sin..." I guess I've assumed that the narrator and Nora had an extra martial affair. But I'm not sure, now. What does anyone else think the "sin" is?? Also, the way Nora is referenced in the song it sounds alternately like she is dead and alive. If she's alive, why is the narrator telling her that her husband is both taking a job in Greenland and drowning his vows at the bar. And why do they then drink to Nora?? But if she's dead, why is he asking her if her Christmas is blue and thanking her for a book?? Inquiring minds want to know... ...Carol ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 8:47:37 -0700 From: Subject: Re: [RS] Blue divide and other love songs >> TV Light and Things That I Have Seen don't appeal to me. Those are the ones I skip on Blue Divide.<< See, those DO appeal to me -- along with "Ascent" and "Blue Divide" -- and are the songs I never skip, because they never get played in concert. To be honest, I think songs like "SWCD," "Arrowhead," "Mary Magdelane" and "Fishing" -- in addition to all having been on the live record -- have been way overplayed, and it sure would be nice for Richard to bring some of his older, rarely-played songs into his set lists more often. And not feel obligated to do "AYHN," "Transit," "Fenario" and some of those other constantly-played songs at every show. RG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 22:04:33 +0200 From: Ronnie de Champs Subject: [RS] Euro tour news: house concert Carol wrote: > Ronnie, have fun at your house show!!! (RS seems more open to requests at > those events, too....) > Spot on, Carol. The show was fantastic and Richard indeed was very open to requests. I asked him if he could play State of the Union but he said he had had so many that in fact he had a complete new setlist for the second set. There were people from Germany, the UK and even Switserland at this concert and Richard felt he couldn't refuse some of the requests as people had gone to so much trouble to be able to attend the show. He had a laptop next to him as he had seen Van Dyke Parks (VDP) have one the day before and thought it looked interesting. He by the way has a big book of lyrics with him on this tour (like Lucinda Williams does) and it came in very handy today. VDP was at the Naked Song festival the day before lecturing about arranging songs. I personally didn't attend that part but Richard did and said it was a bizarre experience. After the lecture VDP was handing out business cards and Richard got one. You should ask him what was written on it. Richard said he had written 6 pages in his journal this morning and could have easily written 10 more. Anyway back to the songs: (again maybe not in the order of play, sorry) The Island Sitting on Top of the world Louisiana 1927 (Randy Newman) Mavis Gethsemani Goodbye (yes! would have been my request) Juggler Get Up Clare Last Fare Transit Fenario the Courier Wisteria Arrowhead Fishing I Saw My Youth Today ("my US fans will be upset") So Says the Whippoorwill (incl Father B verse) A Tune for Nowhere (written during the siege of Sarajevo) Next stop: a radio show in Bergen op Zoom for Richard, a day off for me Ronnie _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 22:21:53 +0200 From: Ronnie de Champs Subject: [RS] Viktor Krauss A couple of months ago Richard played a show with Viktor (who offcourse plays on Not Far Now) in the US. He was very impressed by Viktor's (bass) playing and said that if he could bring 1 person to tour with it would be Viktor as it adds something to the songs. He said they only rehearsed for about half an hour but Viktor played faultless. Did anyone here attend this show? Any comments? Apparently there is a recording existing somewhere and RS encouraged me to check it out. Please contact me offlist if you have any info on this, it seems very interesting Ronnie _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 17:13:20 -0400 From: Carol Love Subject: Re: [RS] Euro tour news: house concert ........Wow, Ronnie!! You got "Tune for Nowhere" AND a Randy Newman song -- I'm jealous!! :-) It's great that RS was so accommodating for the folks who had traveled so far to hear him. It must have been a really cool experience. .....Carol On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Ronnie de Champs < ronniedechamps@hotmail.com> wrote: > Carol wrote: > > > Ronnie, have fun at your house show!!! (RS seems more open to requests at > > those events, too....) > > > > Spot on, Carol. The show was fantastic and Richard indeed was very open to > requests. I asked him if he could play State of the Union but he said he had > had so many that in fact he had a complete new setlist for the second set. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 00:24:55 +0300 From: Chris Foxwell Subject: Re: [RS] Euro tour news On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Carol Love wrote: > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Ronnie de Champs < > ronniedechamps@hotmail.com> wrote: > > I loved when he used to include the covers: "Paddy's Green Shamrock Shore" > and Nanci Griffith's "Once in a Very Blue Moon". > > ......Carol > Oh man...I didn't know he used to do "Once in a Very Blue Moon"! God, I love that song. Any recordings of that floating around? Chris - -- "We were born in a dark age out of due time (for us). But there is this comfort: otherwise we should not know, or so much love, what we do love. I imagine the fish out of water is the only fish to have an inkling of water." - --J.R.R. Tolkien ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 14:33:11 -0700 From: Subject: Re: [RS] Euro tour news: house concert >> I Saw My Youth Today ("my US fans will be upset") << I wonder what he meant by that . . . that he'll play it there but never seems to play it here? RG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 23:48:43 +0200 From: Ronnie de Champs Subject: RE: [RS] Euro tour news: house concert spot on - ---------------------------------------- > Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 14:33:11 -0700 > From: rongrittz@cox.net > To: shindell-list@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [RS] Euro tour news: house concert > >>> I Saw My Youth Today ("my US fans will be upset") << > > I wonder what he meant by that . . . that he'll play it there but never seems to play it here? > > RG _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 20:50:46 -0400 From: njohnson@ent.umass.edu Subject: [RS] Nora and sin Carol wrote: >> The line repeats, "Nora, it was no sin..." I guess I've assumed that the narrator and Nora had an extra martial affair. But I'm not sure, now. What does anyone else think the "sin" is?? << I don't think the consummated the affair, but that they had, as Jimmy Carter once said, lust in their hearts. >> Also, the way Nora is referenced in the song it sounds alternately like she is dead and alive. If she's alive, why is the narrator telling her that her husband is both taking a job in Greenland and drowning his vows at the bar. And why do they then drink to Nora?? But if she's dead, why is he asking her if her Christmas is blue and thanking her for a book?? << How about that she's alive, but her husband left her to go to Greenland. Norman ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V10 #107 ************************************