From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V10 #18 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Friday, February 13 2009 Volume 10 : Number 018 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [RS] Strength Through Integrity [Janet Cinelli ] Re: [RS] Richard covers... [Vanessa Wills ] Re: [RS] Strength Through Integrity [Chris Foxwell ] Re: [RS] Strength Through Integrity [Chris Foxwell ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:17:24 -0800 (PST) From: Janet Cinelli Subject: Re: [RS] Strength Through Integrity I took Ron's advice and listened to the clips on this website. I also read the review and I got a little confused when I read this: "where tales of a traveller and his mule in the Roman Empire (bGet up Clarab)" Where does the reviewer get this from? Is it somewhere in the song that I missed? I've heard all the songs except Gethsemani Goodbye. One song I didn't care for, Parasol Ants has grown on me. I can't wait to get the cd. And also thanks for bringing up Antje again. I didn't order her new one yet but now I will. She is such a wonderful singer/songwriter. I've seen her several times, mostly opening for Ellis Paul but one time she did a co-bill with Anais Mitchell (another great one). That's the time I realized that her song Pearls had motherf--ker in it. She mentioned that before her concerts she scans the audience and if she sees a kid, she changes the word. Janet - --- On Wed, 2/11/09, rongrittz@aol.com wrote: > From: rongrittz@aol.com > Subject: Re: [RS] Strength Through Integrity > To: shindell-list@smoe.org > Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 11:01 AM > There are clips from six new songs by a guy named Richard > Shindell on the Fish Records site; maybe we could talk about > that instead? > > http://www.fishrecords.co.uk/reviews/notfarnow.htm > > RG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:49:26 -0500 From: Vanessa Wills Subject: Re: [RS] Richard covers... I'll add "Pretty Peggy-O" by Bob Dylan. I think I heard that at Falcon Ridge 2007. Other than that, folks have already mentioned most of the covers I've heard over the years. - --Vanessa On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:04 AM, wrote: > >> About ten years ago RS mentioned that hearing the all-star bluegrass > band and eponymous album, Old & In The Way, saved him from a life of > listening to prog rock. He said this by way of introducing a cover from that > record. I know it wasn't Wild Horses but I forget which tune he did -- maybe > one of the Peter Rowan tunes? << > > I heard him tell that story as an introduction to "The Hobo Song," from > that record. > > > In addition to the covers he's officially released on his own?CDs or with > Cry Cry Cry, he sure has covered some great (and varied) stuff. > > Here's just a short list of some of the songs I've heard him do: > > Love Hurts (Felice and Boudleaux Bryant) > Four Green Fields (Tommy Makem) > Sin City (Gram Parsons/Chris Hillman) > Louisiana 1927 (Randy Newman) > Friend of the Devil (Grateful Dead) > Making Plans (Dolly Parton) > Once in a Very Blue Moon (Patrick Alger) > I Got Mine (Roy Bookbinder) > Bleecker Street (Paul Simon) > America (Paul Simon) > Farewelll to Saint Dolores (Dave Carter) > Famous Blue Raincoat (Leonard Cohen) > Hard Times Come Again No More (Stephen Foster) > Banks of the Pontchartrain (Traditional) > Paddys Green Shamrock Shore (Traditional) > > Feel free to add to the list. > > RG > - -- "True compassion is more than flinging a coin to a beggar. It comes to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring." - --Martin Luther King ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:18:56 +0200 From: Chris Foxwell Subject: Re: [RS] Strength Through Integrity On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Janet Cinelli wrote: > I took Ron's advice and listened to the clips on this website. I also read > the review and I got a little confused when I read this: "where tales of a > traveller and his mule in the Roman Empire (b Get up Clarab )" > Where does the reviewer get this from? Is it somewhere in the song that I > missed? > It's pretty much from the lyrics, Janet, yeah. The song is full of references to Rome and being lost on the roads. For instance: "The soul's a heavy load, when you're running out of road, and you can never go back to Rome" and "Vandals, Celts, and Visigoths are everywhere, and this road ain't even Roman, just where the hell are we goin'..." (The Vandals and Visigoths were two of the "barbarian" tribes that plagued Rome in the latter stages of her Empire, and the Celts were perpetual enemies that posed a threat in the middle stages of Rome's existence.) So, yeah, it seems like the singer and poor old Clara dear are wandering the back roads of the Empire, trying to get somewhere, and it's night and they're lost, and the singer is just trying to coax Clara "up over this one last rise." (Other supporting/setting-establishing lyrics include: "Out here beyond all knowin', and only you know where we're goin'..."; "C'mon Clara, the map said there'd be monsters here..."; "Ever since we started roamin', to wherever it is we're goin' ...") (I especially like Richard's use of "roamin'" and "Roman" together.) I recall an interview on WFUV, a year or 18 months back, in which the interviewer and Richard talked a little about the structure of the song, and the "gradual reveal" of the setting. First the listener is introduced to someone called Clara, upon whom the singer is reliant; then the listener discovers that Clara is a mule; then the listener discovers that Clara and the singer are lost in Rome; etc. In other thoughts: - --I really like the song clips on the website forwarded by Ron. Good stuff. And I was pleasantly surprised to hear Antje's vocals on "Juggler Out In Traffic"...very very excellent... :) - --However, I'm not a big fan of the production/instrumentation of "Parasol Ants." I've really really been hooked on this song ever since I heard it live for the first time, and I've since come to love the solo stripped-down performance. The "band" feel of the finished tune, with the drums and all, just isn't working for me in comparison. But likely I've listened to the solo version way too much for objective review; I'm sure I'll get used to the studio version in time. It might turn out to be a Mavis situation for me, though, where I practically hold the solo version and the studio versions apart as two different songs in my mind. - --"One Man's Arkansas"...?!? Hooray! I had feared that Richard had all but abandoned this song. He always cocks an eyebrow and grimaces when I request it at performances. :) I'm very excited that it will be on the new album! - --The album cover cracks me up. It's actually the poster photo he used for last year's performance tour. I brought one home from a Club Passim performance and stuck it up on the wall at work--back when I was in the 'States--and I spent many a bored moment glancing at it. I didn't know it was going to be the new album cover, though, since it was associated with the South Of Delia tour. Chris - -- "We were born in a dark age out of due time (for us). But there is this comfort: otherwise we should not know, or so much love, what we do love. I imagine the fish out of water is the only fish to have an inkling of water." - --J.R.R. Tolkien ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:23:49 +0200 From: Chris Foxwell Subject: Re: [RS] Strength Through Integrity On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Chris Foxwell wrote: > --I really like the song clips on the website forwarded by Ron. Good > stuff. And I was pleasantly surprised to hear Antje's vocals on "Juggler > Out In Traffic"...very very excellent... :) > Whoops, seems like those are Lucy's vocals. Huh, I could have sworn on first listen it was Antje. Her voice's fall from a high note to a low is pretty distinctive, and I thought I heard it here; but listening more closely, though, yeah, it is Lucy. Oops! Oh well, here's hoping. ;) Chris - -- "We were born in a dark age out of due time (for us). But there is this comfort: otherwise we should not know, or so much love, what we do love. I imagine the fish out of water is the only fish to have an inkling of water." - --J.R.R. Tolkien ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V10 #18 ***********************************