From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V8 #101 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Sunday, June 18 2006 Volume 08 : Number 101 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] hittin' the high notes [Greg Sheridan ] Re: [RS] hittin' the high notes ["kunigunda" ] Re: [RS] hittin' the high notes/Jeff Black ["Karen Zundel" Subject: [RS] hittin' the high notes Hey guys, I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I just thought I'd update you all on my love affair with Patty Griffin. I realize that this is a Richard Shindell list, but since there hasn't been a lot of activity on the list lately, I thought I'd throw something out there into the void. First of all, does anyone have any thoughts about Richard/Patty similarities? Let me say up front that I am not a musician. I've realized that as much as I appreciate Richard's guitar playing skills and songwriting prowess, I still seem to INITIALLY gravitate most towards Richard's songs that have a strong emotional element. That sounds kind of silly now that I've said it, because pretty much all of Richard's songs have a strong emotional element. What I really mean is that the songs I INITIALLY like most, are the songs that feature Richard singing emotionally. OK, that doesn't really narrow things down much, does it. Let's see if an example helps. "Money For Floods" is an emotional song, but the tempo of the song and Richard's singing in the song, are subdued. It's emotional, but it's quietly emotional. I have nothing against the song, and I realize that it's a substantial song with great lyrics, but the singing itself just doesn't grab me. "I Saw My Youth Today" and "Calling The Moon" are two examples of Richard songs where he could be singing in a different language and the singing itself would still have an effect on me. Maybe I just like Richard hitting high notes, but I think it's Richard's singing above all else that initially caught my attention and still does, even with his new material. I think this may be the thing that ties Richard and Patty Griffin together for me. The girl can sing. Anyone who hasn't checked Patty out and who likes to hear someone belting out pure emotion, should definitely check her out. Listen to "Let Him Fly", "Forgiveness", "Every Little Bit", and "You Never Get What You Want" for the earlier, raw Patty, and "Top Of The World", "Don't Come Easy", and "Useless Desires" for the later, more-produced Patty. And don't forget, you can listen to it all free at Napster. Greg S - --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1"/min. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 11:13:01 -0500 From: "kunigunda" Subject: Re: [RS] hittin' the high notes Greg sez What I really mean is that the songs I INITIALLY like most, are the songs that feature Richard singing emotionally. Perhaps the songs you perceive to be "sung emotionally" are those that strike an emotional chord within you? My list of those type songs (Richard' and Patty's) is different than yours so I guess it could just be a personal thing. That being said, thanks for the heads up on napster. I am listening to Jeff Black's first cd - B Sides and Confessions. Less produced, I like it better than Tin Lily. Another first is best...in my opinion. Gonna have to have it. It's definitely worth a listen. Carrie in KC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 13:38:56 -0400 From: "Karen Zundel" Subject: Re: [RS] hittin' the high notes/Jeff Black Carrie, I love Jeff Black. You'll be happy to know that there were two CDs released before "B-sides and Confessions".....namely "honey and salt" and the one that put him on the map "Birmingham road". "Birmingham road" is never out of rotation for me...meaning it has been in my car since 1998. ;-) It is truly stunning. It was the first Jeff black CD I owned, giving credence to the theory that the first CD is usually the favorite. I know in my case that almost always holds true. KarenZ ----- Original Message ----- From: kunigunda To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [RS] hittin' the high notes Greg sez What I really mean is that the songs I INITIALLY like most, are the songs that feature Richard singing emotionally. Perhaps the songs you perceive to be "sung emotionally" are those that strike an emotional chord within you? My list of those type songs (Richard' and Patty's) is different than yours so I guess it could just be a personal thing. That being said, thanks for the heads up on napster. I am listening to Jeff Black's first cd - B Sides and Confessions. Less produced, I like it better than Tin Lily. Another first is best...in my opinion. Gonna have to have it. It's definitely worth a listen. Carrie in KC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:02:17 -0500 From: "kunigunda" Subject: Re: [RS] hittin' the high notes/Jeff Black Karen sez > I love Jeff Black. You'll be happy to know that there were two CDs > released > before "B-sides and Confessions".....namely "honey and salt" and the one > that > put him on the map "Birmingham road". Karen - So happy that I just ordered B sides and B road. I had checked out his website but the albums category was messed up and I couldn't really tell what was listed there. I was able to read that he grew up just north of KC. Hmmm. Doubt if he is still around. No gigs near here either. Oh well, I guess my ears will have to do all the work. So many tunes, so little time. Carrie in KC Hey....there's a title for RS' new cd!! ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V8 #101 ***********************************