From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V7 #304 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Sunday, December 11 2005 Volume 07 : Number 304 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Jessica Wolff is out of the office. [Jessica_Wolff@mckinsey.com] [RS] The GWB and the Docks [Bart Gallagher ] [RS] RE: shindell-list-digest V7 #302 [Jamie Younghans / John McDonnell <] Re: [RS] and the damned fool yells push on ["kunigunda" ] [RS] test ["mlmarmer" ] Re: [RS] get your tabs and lyrics online while you still can [Lisa Davis ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 04:01:34 -0500 From: Jessica_Wolff@mckinsey.com Subject: [RS] Jessica Wolff is out of the office. I will be out of the office starting 12/09/2005 and will not return until 12/12/2005. The McKinsey Chicago office will be closed as of 11:30a today. I will not have access to email for the remainder of the day but will reply upon my return on Monday. Thanks and have a great weekend. +=========================================================+ This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. +=========================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:21:48 -0500 From: Bart Gallagher Subject: [RS] The GWB and the Docks > I believe RG was referring to George W Bush not the bridge, i.e. W's push in > Iraq. RG please correct me if I misunderstood. - --- Bernadette, Some people are searching for the kind of understanding that you possess. Some go on searching their whole life through And never find the knowledge found in you. Oh please Bernadette. It's clearly the bridge. It is well known amongst us here that since moving to Sunny Cal-E-Fornia RG longs for that ride across Ammann's span and the Cross Bronx EXPRESSWAY. Ah the majestic Hudson - from the bottom level, easing under The Apartments, the merge to the Buckner, the toll at Throgs Neck...Motoring at it's finest. - -------- About the banter on the docks, Roxy said: In the beginning, with the traffic and airplane noise, a guy tells someone to hurry up (.....apurate). At the end,it sounds like the same guy is asking "Listen, are you ready now?" (Oye,ya esta listo?) I could be wrong, but that's what I hear in there. - --- I think I hear, "Hurry up, get this crate aboard! Crazy Americans, what are they going to do with all these Che Guevara t-shirts? - --------- As for the list, I'll stay here. Bart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 11:37:38 -0500 From: Jamie Younghans / John McDonnell Subject: [RS] RE: shindell-list-digest V7 #302 Hi All, Bernadette wrote: >> And the 'big push' John McD mentions in '42 would be meaningful if the song wasindeed set overseas (either Pacific or Europe) but the song is set inLouisiana. So the "big push" would not be necesasary especially since risking the lives of troops would be foolish on maneuvers if they were needed on the front line<< True, but, as I said, it's a conceit. The song is ostensibly set in Louisiana, but has a different thematic setting. 1942, Louisiana, maneuvers--it's all just sleight-of-hand. Norman's point is well taken, that it is not an anti-war song per se, but the stupidity is magnified when the stakes are the highest--the loss of human life. John McD. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:53:10 -0600 From: "kunigunda" Subject: Re: [RS] and the damned fool yells push on >>> Another note is that I think that the Smothers Brothers show was > cancelled > due to Pete Seeger singing "Big Muddy" after he was told not to. So it was > also taken as a commentary on the Vietnam "conflict" even though the song > is > set in 1942. Even then the media was influenced by White House policy.<< I remember that. Things certainly have changed since then..... Carrie in KC - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:02:40 -0600 From: "kunigunda" Subject: Re: [RS] The GWB and the Docks > I think I hear, "Hurry up, get this crate aboard! Crazy Americans, what > are > they going to do with all these Che Guevara t-shirts? > --------- Funny!!! I enjoyed that one. Carrie in KC - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 15:35:26 -0500 From: "mlmarmer" Subject: [RS] test Ron, Just testing to see if this goes through. Thanks for the reply and help. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:44:09 -0500 From: Lisa Davis - home Subject: Re: [RS] get your tabs and lyrics online while you still can Wwell, the way things are going, we shall all have to go back to REAL folk music, oral tradition, in which songs are simply passed on by memory, nobody owns anything and also never gets paid for anything other than actual performances. Seems to me the tradition came up with an awful lot of good tunes and good lyrics without intellectual property rights. It may not have helped the musicians but it didn't hurt the music. As if the record industry gave a damn about musicians! And I have to feel that any musician who would dare to use the word "folk" should at the very least insist that lyrics, tabs, etc. be freely available to the public. Along the lines of "freeware" -- free to all except those who would seek to make money off of something AND exclude it from others. Sandy Smith wrote: > According to an article at BBC.com, the music industry plans to start > cracking down on websites that offer tablature, lyrics, etc. They're > going to be taking a very hard line about it in 2006. Here's a link to > the article: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4508158.stm > > I find this particularly frustrating because my interest in Latin music > is much stronger than my Spanish, and some artists don't include lyrics > in their liner notes. If you can't make out the words aurally, a > Spanish-English dictionary won't help you figure out what the lyrics to > the song mean. Also, I listen to a Spanish- language music station that > almost never identifies a song it has just played (or even name the > artist), so if I hear a song I like the only way I can find out what it > is (so I can *BUY* it, in case anyone from the industry is reading > this) is to jot down a snippet of the lyrics and google them in hope of > finding a website that has the lyrics and identifies the artist and the > name of the song. I've ended up finding a lot of new artists (new to > me) whom I like a lot by doing this - and buying a LOT of new CDs as a > result - but I won't be able to do it anymore if the music industry > gets its way. > > Sandy (grumbling her way into the new year) ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V7 #304 ***********************************