From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V7 #261 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Sunday, November 6 2005 Volume 07 : Number 261 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] fishing lyrics [Ron Alderfer ] [RS] mondegreens [] Re: [RS] Re: mondegreens [Tom Neff ] Re: [RS] Re: mondegreens [Rongrittz@aol.com] Re: [RS] The Next Best Western... on my way to Berkeley soon! [john cleir] [RS] Wisteria questions ["Matthew Bullis" ] Re: [RS] The Next Best Western... on my way to Berkeley soon! [Chris Foxw] Re: [RS] Wisteria questions [Rongrittz@aol.com] Re: [RS] Wisteria questions [Chris Foxwell ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 07:44:49 -0500 From: Ron Alderfer Subject: [RS] fishing lyrics Matt, The line you are wondering about is "I bet you Indians can really reel 'em in". In the context of the song, I see it a mocking insult and more mental intimidation by the officer. The last verse is open to interpretation, but it sounds to me like the officer has finally broken this fellow, and he gives up the location of the ship carrying the illegal immigrants. Just my 2 cents... Ron A ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 9:02:18 -0500 From: Subject: [RS] mondegreens > > Time for another round of "mondegreens," and I forget why it has that > > word, but mis-heard lyrics with hysterical results? I think one of my favorites is still whoever first heard NBW as "I am Richard, I am tired..." - -jim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 05:32:22 -0700 From: Tom Neff Subject: Re: [RS] Re: mondegreens On 11/6/05, Rongrittz@aol.com wrote: >... and I always thought the line was "The comet > came, the comet went" in "Summer Wind, Cotton Dress." As opposed to what? http://www.richardshindell.com/index.php?page=songs&display=104 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 10:16:16 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Re: mondegreens I sez: >> I always thought the line was "The comet came, the comet went" in "Summer Wind, Cotton Dress." << Tom asks: >> As opposed to what? << Tom points out that those ARE the actual lyrics: >> http://www.richardshindell.com/index.php?page=songs&display=104 << I replies: Oops. That'll learn me to post late at night. What I mean to type was "The calm it came, the calm it went." THAT'S what I've always heard. RG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 11:41:54 -0800 From: john cleirigh Subject: Re: [RS] The Next Best Western... on my way to Berkeley soon! Candace, you're probably on the road now, soon to be passing me in Santa Cruz. The show Friday night in Sebastopol was worth the 3 hour drive for me, but it would have been worth 5. Unlike the Passim show I listened to, Richard did relatively few covers during his solo set. He mentioned the Covers CD, but iirc Seqor was the only potential song for the CD that he played. After Seqor he played Cancion Sencilla, and it was funny to hear him explain aftewards that the premise of the song prevented him from repeating it, so he said his next song in Spanish would be called Cancion Complicado. Much laughter the entire set. What a joy to see Richard so loose and comfy. No Bouzouki, no classical guitar, he played the XXX-RS. He did not play The Island (musically, one of my all-time favorite RS songs), but he openned his set with Mavis, and seeing it live is better than hearing it on the CD (for a dadgad player anyway). My friend (who had never even heard of Richard before) was blown away and transfixed the whole time. The whole three hour drive home she kept erupting with things like, "Oh my gogd, how did I know he existed.." and then silence for a few minutes, followed by another eruption, and so on untill we got home. I *knew* she was gonna like him. As for me, I feel like I have lots of practicing to do again. I always leave a RS show inspired.. Lucy played first, and Richard joined her with the T5 on a few songs. I hoped that Lucy would have come out during Richard's set for things like Fenario, but she didn't. She was in great voice, and in a great, playful mood, and mentioned Molly a lot, even holding up her photo for us to see. Not like anyone behind the front row could see. Someone suggested passing it around. As if. Really damn cute to see Lucy like this. The encore was pure Cry Cry, and I was very happy that Lucy came back out. Cold Missouri Water was amazing. In Berkeley tonight I expect much magic and wish I could be there for it. Please share your experience when you get a chance! john - -- John Cleirigh | P.O. Box 1515 | Felton | CA | 95018 831.239.5564 | http://johncleirigh.com On 11/6/05, hopedancing@aol.com wrote: > It's only a mere 5 hour journey, but it has never been easy (for me, at least) to see Richard in concert, which is partly, in some odd way, why the shows are always so special to me. I can't blame Richard at all for the distance. I'm way out here on the central coast, near Pismo Beach and San Luis Obispo, and it's never too easy for singer-songwriters to find a place to play nearby. I figure he comes all the way from Argentina-- the least I can do is travel half a State to see him play. In years past, I've made the 4 hour journey south to see Richard at McCabes in Santa Monica and The Mint in LA (as well as with Cry, Cry Cry at the Troubadour). I went north 6 hours to see him play with Dar and band a few years back in Santa Rosa, and again with Cry, Cry, Cry once in Santa Cruz (just 4 hours away) and once solo in Seattle last year (a simple 2.5 hour flight away). And now I'm so looking forward to the "Carnegie Hall pre-show" with Lucy K. tomorrow night!! I'm bringing m! > y cousin, Sydney, for her birthday. Secretly hoping we'll hear "The Island" and "Cancion Sencilla" although I know they are not on the recent list of songs. Hearing some of the cover tunes will be a wonderful treat. I'll send a note to the list on Monday when I get back home. Looking forward to a great show :) > > Candace on the central coast ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 17:37:29 -0700 From: "Matthew Bullis" Subject: [RS] Wisteria questions Hello, so yesterday I asked about Fishing, and today I ask about Wisteria. First of all, this seems to be one of the difficult songs to play in DADGAD. I can't seem to get the fingering right. That tuning sure makes you sound a lot more proficient and fancy than you really are, but this one is hard. I've got Next Best Western down, and Reunion Hill, but this one has stumped me. Anyhow, Does anyone have interpretations of this one? It sounds to me like this couple is looking back at their old house which is now lived in by another family. Do you think this is written from an older person's perspective, where they had to move because the place was too big, and they didn't need all that room? Thanks a lot. Matthew Tired of HotMail? Try Runbox. 1 gig of storage for a reasonable price. Use this link as your referral. http://1362.runbox.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 19:25:18 -0500 From: Chris Foxwell Subject: Re: [RS] The Next Best Western... on my way to Berkeley soon! On 11/6/05, john cleirigh wrote: > > My friend (who had never even heard of Richard before) was blown away > and transfixed the whole time. The whole three hour drive home she > kept erupting with things like, "Oh my gogd, how did I know he > existed.." and then silence for a few minutes, followed by another > eruption, and so on untill we got home. Yes! I have witnessed this exact same reaction in my friends countless times upon hearing Richard for the first time. It's the best feeling, isn't it? --Chris - -- "We were born in a dark age out of due time (for us). But there is this comfort: otherwise we should not know, or so much love, what we do love. I imagine the fish out of water is the only fish to have an inkling of water." - --J.R.R. Tolkien ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 19:58:04 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Wisteria questions >> Does anyone have interpretations of this one? It sounds to me like this couple is looking back at their old house which is now lived in by another family. Do you think this is written from an older person's perspective, where they had to move because the place was too big, and they didn't need all that room? << I think you're reading more detail into the song than necessary. Couple lived in house. Couple creates memories in house. Couple moves from house. New family lives in house. New family cuts down beloved (although hard to tame) Wisteria. That's pretty much it. Why they moved is entirely beside the point. It's actually one of Richard's more straightforward songs, in my opinion. RG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:15:04 -0500 From: Chris Foxwell Subject: Re: [RS] Wisteria questions On 11/6/05, Rongrittz@aol.com wrote: > > I think you're reading more detail into the song than necessary. Couple > lived in house. Couple creates memories in house. Couple moves from house. > New family lives in house. New family cuts down beloved (although hard to > tame) Wisteria. That's pretty much it. Why they moved is entirely beside > the > point. > > It's actually one of Richard's more straightforward songs, in my opinion. Yeah, I agree with Ron. The power of this song lies in its simplicity, which allows it to resonate with any listener's experience. We all know what it's like to think back wistfully about something from which we have moved on, with pangs of nostalgic sadness that we can't keep things frozen in time. Richard chose to go with a house, but it could be anything. To try to pinpoint exactly why the couple moved, exactly how old they are or what they're doing, etc., is to lessen the song's applicability, and thus lessen its power. (In my opinion, at least.) As for the guitar fingering, sorry, can't help you there. I'm clueless. :) --Chris - -- "We were born in a dark age out of due time (for us). But there is this comfort: otherwise we should not know, or so much love, what we do love. I imagine the fish out of water is the only fish to have an inkling of water." - --J.R.R. Tolkien ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V7 #261 ***********************************