From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V7 #166 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Saturday, July 9 2005 Volume 07 : Number 166 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [RS] RE: songwriting miscellany [Lisa Davis - home ] [RS] Dave Carter ["Norman Johnson" ] RE: [RS] Spirit in the Night ["Ronnie de Champs" Subject: Re: [RS] RE: songwriting miscellany How about a Richard Thompson cover, then? Lisa (being brief) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 01:25:59 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] RE: songwriting miscellany >> Many of you have mentioned Dave Carter--what's a good CD for intro to his work? Is he an acquired taste, or could a Shin-head handle the hardcore stuff? << Buy "Tanglewood Tree." Buy it now. You don't like it, you've got RG's money-back guarantee. Of course, if you're REALLY willing to take the leap, get "When I Go." But I will not be held responsible for the big puddle you make when you hear "Kate and the Ghost of Lost Love" (a.k.a. "the most perfect song ever written"). RG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 01:08:40 -0400 From: "pete jameson" Subject: [RS] Spirit in the Night Spirituality.hmm.an awareness that the world around you is a manifestation of divine goodness.I confess to having emerged from a Judeo-Christian ethic, but, through college at a Catholic University (where I learned about a number of disparate religions, by the way) and on through a lot of self-discovery, I have found that I want there to be something more to life than birth, growth, young love, struggle, success(es), failure(s), sickness, death. OK, I left out frustration, inertia, and familial conflict and support, but you get the picture. My failures are my successes, but there's no success in failure (kudos, Zimmy). I see the world as benign, not malignant. And that implies "spirituality" for me. One of the most interesting books I have read about an understanding of EVERYONE is The Tao of Pooh, by Benjamin Hoff: "Through working in harmony with life's circumstances, Taoist understanding changes what others may perceive as negative into something positive. When you discard arrogance, complexity, and a few other things that get in the way, sooner or later you will discover that simple, childlike, and mysterious secret known to those of the Uncarved Block: Life is Fun." Richard occasionally writes from the female perspective, as in "Money for Floods", "The Ballad of Mary Magdalene" and "Abuelita". My 13 year old son found this odd, and I explained that he might be trying to lend his subject authenticity, rather than speaking "about" her. This morning, I was assembling a mixed CD for a compatriot of mine, and the last song was Dylan's reading of "House of the Rising Sun". And I noticed that he speaks from the female narrative, though I distinctively recall The Animals version substituting a male perspective. Anyway, Richard told me last year just prior to the official release of Vuelta that Fenario was based on an early Dylan song. But, after searching the wonderfully comprehensive listing of Dylan songs on www.bobdylan.com I can't figure it out. Anyone know what he was referring to? I'd like to hear Richard cover "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere (Rockin' Chair)", "If You See Her, Say Hello", or "With God on Our Side". There's a stirring version of the latter on Buddy Miller's 2004 release. I get as much enjoyment out of Dar's "The Christians and the Pagans" as I do Iris Dement's "I Got that Old Time Religion". There's a fantastic Greg Brown pressing called "Solid Heart" in which he does a Mississippi Fred McDowell song called "You Got to Move". And Van Morrison's "When Rough God Goes Riding" is particularly topical in anticipation of Hurricane Dennis. Cool new Portland, OR band Dolorean explores "understanding" through a secular, though Judeo-Christian prism, on Violence in the Snowy Fields. It borrows liberally from Harvest, yet has its own voice and plaintive cry for a less informed world. Sometimes I just turn it all off: cell phone, tv, radio, Internet, and listen to the birds and the wind. Like Neil Young said, "It's all one song." "I think it's time now. Time to reveal myself. I am the Messiah. I am the Messiah. Yes, I think you heard me right. I am the Messiah. I was gonna wait 'til next year. Build up the suspense a little. Make it a really big surprise. But I could not resist.and now that I've told you, I feel this great weight lifted. Dr. Nussbaum was right. He's my therapist. He said get it out in the open." - Dan Bern "Jerusalem". Love and Whippoorwills, P.T. Jameson Ligonier, PA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 01:15:11 -0400 From: "Norman Johnson" Subject: [RS] Dave Carter John wrote: >> Many of you have mentioned Dave Carter--what's a good CD for intro to his work? Is he an acquired taste, or could a Shin-head handle the hardcore stuff?<< If the music of Dave Carter is an acquired taste, I know of no better predictor of that taste than being a "Shin-head". Many of us here (myself included) first heard of Dave and Tracy through this list. In fact, at times this list has been the Dave Carter list. My first exposure to their music was Tanglewood Tree. I played the title track of that song obsessively. I would agree with Ron about getting Tanglewood Tree to start, but you can't go wrong with any of the Carter/Grammer albums or with Tracy's new album Flowers of Avalon. Hard to believe that it's just about three years since Dave's passing. Norman ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 09:12:33 +0200 From: "Ronnie de Champs" Subject: RE: [RS] Spirit in the Night Pete wrote: Anyway, Richard told me last year just prior to the official release of Vuelta that Fenario was based on an early Dylan song. But, after searching the wonderfully comprehensive listing of Dylan songs on www.bobdylan.com I can't figure it out. Anyone know what he was referring to? Me: Pretty Peggy-o from Dylan's first album, a traditional Ronnie ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V7 #166 ***********************************