From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V7 #15 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Monday, January 17 2005 Volume 07 : Number 015 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Re: theorydeeeyore! [k.m.oneill@att.net] Re: [RS] Re: theorydeeeyore! [Chris Foxwell ] [RS] for the record [Vanessa Wills ] Re: [RS] Pushing your luck, and a confession [Vanessa Wills Subject: Re: [RS] Re: theorydeeeyore! On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 k.m.oneill@att.net wrote: > Some songs can be so catchy and they pull you in before you have this > time to figure out their meaning. Then when you do they might not want > to be the song you find yourself singing on a beautiful sunny day. Not > that the song isn't truly wonderful but it carries a very deep message > that can't just be thrown around. (IMHO) Thinking of songs like Luka > etc. kate Kate, I know exactly what you mean. Folk music is really the only music that I go into "lyrics-mode" with; usually I'm more attuned to the music, and the lyrics can take me completely by surprise. The following story is completely irrelevant, but y'all're gonna listen to it anyway. It's funny. Sort of. Anyone know the song "Hazard" by Richard Marx? It's got a really soft lovely clarinet melody running throughout, pretty and kind of haunting, and when I would hear it on the radio now and then (during high school, early-mid nineties) I always liked it. Then, one time I happened upon the music video, and only then did I learn that it's about a kidnapping/murder of a girl in an old quiet town, with the narrator being accused of the crime and protesting his innocence. For some reason, the shock of the contrast between the really grim subject matter and the soft pretty melody transformed what I once thought of as a lovely tune into a really scary, haunting, creepy song. It freaked me out every time I heard it from that point on, just absolutely sent chills down my back and scared the crap out of me. It still does. Weird. During my freshman year at college, I used to go to sleep with a local radio station on softly as a kind of white noise, and my roommate tells the most hilarious stories of "Hazard" coming on in the middle of the night and, as the first chords started, my hand snapping up and slapping the radio off, without me waking up or remembering. Then there was the time that another friend learned the song on guitar and chased me around the dorm playing it... Okay, that's my funny/pathetic story for the day. Feel free to tease all you want. - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:12:35 -0500 From: Vanessa Wills Subject: [RS] for the record I would like to take back everything less than laudatory I might ever have said about "I Am." The song is *beautiful*. With a few years between me and 9/11, I see that now. - --V ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:19:09 -0500 From: Vanessa Wills Subject: Re: [RS] Pushing your luck, and a confession That's the way I've always heard it, too, as literally a photographing and metaphorically a suicide. (Ironically, though, he's only metaphorically and not literally "shooting himself.") I have to say, I do love the way this song begins because it makes you wonder at just how low down the narrator was feeling. I often wonder what would have happened if it were a loaded gun lying on the bed rather than a loaded camera. It's as though he was feeling depressed to the point of being suicidal, but was willing to settle for the camera because, hell, it was there. - --V On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:24:24 -0500, Lisa Davis - home wrote: > I have to say that "I put the lens up to my head" IRRESISTABLY makes you > think "I put the gun up to my head." so that "what comes out grey is > really red" has to make you think of it as a shot, blood. ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V7 #15 **********************************