From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V6 #298 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Thursday, December 2 2004 Volume 06 : Number 298 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] I meeean...I'm sittin' here on the bench [Jolie ] Re: [RS] Group Dubya Bench [rfoxwell@wso.williams.edu] [RS] Nashville area listers - [Christy Thomas ] [RS] If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud! ["Isabel Frey] [RS] Group Dubya Bench [B Gallagher ] Re: [RS] Nashville area listers - [rfoxwell@wso.williams.edu] [RS] Paul Shindell [B Gallagher ] [RS] Group W Bench ["Pam Pickering" ] Re: Re: [RS] Hey Che [] Re: [RS] ,, [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 07:50:30 -0500 From: Jolie Subject: [RS] I meeean...I'm sittin' here on the bench Just wanted to clarify, for the folks who are ready to send the whole list to anger-management therapy. The whole bitch-slap thing? That was an attempt at levity. Pithy, tongue-in-cheek humor. And apparently not very sophisticated, since it doesn't seem to have translated. So don't worry, Jason. I probably won't slap you if you take a trip to New York. But I will pull those Birks out of storage, just for you! ;) And one more thing: Less picking on the young crowd! I'm 28, and I got the Arlo reference! Hope everyone is breathing easier now. As for Richard content...I must be honest. I consider myself a huge Shindell fan, but it seems there's a practical limit to the sheer volume of Richard comments. The second we start a "Richard - boxers or briefs?" type discussion or analyze what he's been eating, I'm gonna run screaming. I find that sort of fan-dom utterly boring, and not a little scary. This list is great because I find you folks interesting and *usually* want to hear what you have to say on other subjects, too. So I'm all for a fair bit of off-topic discussion. But that's just me. Cheers, Amy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 07:58:12 -0500 From: "Elizabeth R. DeSombre" Subject: [RS] Group W bench Ron writes: >OK, are any of you Fellow Ancient People finding this NEARLY as >hysterical as >I am? And for the question to be coming mere days after Thanksgiving >makes >it even funnier. We need to educate our young'uns. I've been struggle with the group W bench this fall . . . in one of the (college) courses I teach I have semester-long group projects and have given the groups letter designations to create electronic conferences for each. Having run out of letters at the front end of the alphabet (since conferences from previous groups still exist) I've got them at the end of the alphabet. Which means that one of my groups is Group W. They're all about 21 years old, and two are from other countries. They have no idea. I've been sorely tempted to tell them (they're actually my best group; a wonderful set of people) what their group name makes me think of . . . but I've been afraid that if I play Alice's Restaurant for them and we get to the part about the Group W bench with "mother rapers" etc. I'd suddendly find myself out of a job. Nevertheless, folk music trumps all, so I might have to do it anyway. Beth (who usually lurks) in Boston ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 09:36:47 -0500 From: rfoxwell@wso.williams.edu Subject: Re: [RS] Group Dubya Bench Quoting Rongrittz@aol.com: > OK, are any of you Fellow Ancient People finding this NEARLY as hysterical > as I am? And for the question to be coming mere days after Thanksgiving makes > it even funnier. Or sad, depending. Hey now, easy on us youngsters. I love Arlo, but I just don't happen to know Alice's Restaurant well enough to pick out a reference. (I actually saw him in concert with his family not too long ago, but he didn't sing Alice's.) I thought that the reference had to do with Bush: "Group W Bench", "George W. Bush", etc. Err...or was that the point of bringing it up here? I seem to have forgotten the original context of the reference here... Anyway, thanks for the link, I had never sat down and read through all the lyrics before. Quoting "Jason@Stanley.net" : > So before you call a truce you get in one last trash talking jab? Nice. Nah, just calling it like I see it, as always. > I think you are probably over dramatizing a bit, because I did write in > English and plenty of people... No, I don't believe that I am. The Tower of Babel ain't just a reference to actual languages, my friend. I think it's fair to say that we are speaking gibberish to one another. Seriously, I did not mean that as an attack, but as a commentary on how little sense we make to each other. Obviously my brand of gibberish is in the majority on this listserver, and your brand of gibberish is the majority in the country. Be satisfied with that. I'd give a hell of a lot to trade majorities with you... - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 07:38:43 -0800 (PST) From: Christy Thomas Subject: [RS] Nashville area listers - just saw this: Monday, January 31st, 2005 Nashville, TN Ellis Paul and Richard Shindell The Bluebird Cafe 4104 Hillsboro Road, phone: 615-383-1461 WHAT AN AMAZING SHOW THAT WILL BE!!! i am GREEN with envy of anyone who gets to see this...i am HOPING that there will be some sharing of the stage! thinking of these two voices in harmony is nearly mind boggling - WOW! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:39:28 -0500 From: "Isabel Frey" Subject: [RS] If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud! As part of our effort to provide a proper upbringing for our two children, Gene and I made them listen to Alice's Restaurant on the radio every Thanksgiving at noon. We still do. If you don't know the song (gasp!), you can find the lyrics on line but reading them just doesn't do the song justice. A few years ago Gene and I had the pleasure of seeing Arlo perform the Massacree Revisited, with full orchestration and five part harmony. I haven't heard the recorded version of this update to the original song, but the live version was great. If it's not already, you should definitely make Alice's Restaurant part of your Thanksgiving tradition. And then make a pilgrimage to Stockbridge, Mass. But don't litter. Isabel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:55:36 -0500 From: B Gallagher Subject: [RS] Group Dubya Bench Group Dubya Bench Now that's funny, Chris. See, us elder statesmen didn't even think of that, we were locked into the Arlo reference. Open Mind. How obviously funny. Trade you all my experience and cheaper auto insurance rates for your youth. Any takers? Bart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:55:11 -0500 From: rfoxwell@wso.williams.edu Subject: Re: [RS] Nashville area listers - Quoting Christy Thomas : > Monday, January 31st, 2005 > Nashville, TN > > Ellis Paul and Richard Shindell > The Bluebird Cafe > 4104 Hillsboro Road, > phone: 615-383-1461 > > WHAT AN AMAZING SHOW THAT WILL BE!!! i am GREEN with > envy of anyone who gets to see this...i am HOPING that > there will be some sharing of the stage! thinking of > these two voices in harmony is nearly mind boggling - WOW! Oh, wow. Man. I wish I could see that. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 11:07:45 -0500 From: B Gallagher Subject: [RS] Paul Shindell Nashville. Oh, wow. Man. I wish I could see that. - ---- I hear Vanessa is putting a road trip together. :) Bart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:15:19 -0800 From: "Pam Pickering" Subject: [RS] Group W Bench Bart, Not only do I remember it, Alice's Restaurant has become a Thanksgiving tradition at our house! Of course, my 29 year old daughter thinks I'm just an old hippie but I still believe in Make love, not war. Must be my San Francisco upbringing. Pam in Elk Grove ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 10:22:50 -0600 From: Subject: Re: Re: [RS] Hey Che Disconnecting this from Vanessa or anyone else in particular, as a person who knows and loves the "older" folks artists, I find it surprising that so many fans of Richard, Dar, Lucy and many other contemporary artists don't know the "old guys". People like Arlo, Tom Rush, Eric Andersen, Tom Paxton, etc. Not only were/are they great, but they are big influences on the next generation. Joe > > From: Rongrittz@aol.com > Date: 2004/12/01 Wed PM 11:56:52 CST > To: shindell-list@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [RS] Hey Che > > >>> OK, I'll bite: what the heck is Group W Bench? :) <<< > >> Yeah, me too. Vanessa, I have no idea how old you are, but this > 26-year-old hasn't the faintest idea either. << > > OK, are any of you Fellow Ancient People finding this NEARLY as hysterical as > I am? And for the question to be coming mere days after Thanksgiving makes > it even funnier. Or sad, depending. > > RG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 10:16:21 -0600 From: Subject: Re: [RS] ,, > If there are any Bush supporters out there, please speak up. It is frustrating being ganged up on by people and everyone who could chime in doesn't. I know it probably seems like you are being ganged up on, but that is simply what happens when your views are outnumbered by such a large majority. How could we make this better for you, short of changing our views to agree with yours? We can't, but you should take comfort in the fast that if we were in certain areas of the country WE would be the ones far outnumbered. Joe ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V6 #298 ***********************************