From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V6 #181 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Friday, September 3 2004 Volume 06 : Number 181 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] My feelings on Vuelta [Ron Alderfer ] [RS] Re: There Goes Richard... ["ptpowerlists@juno.com" ] [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V6 #180 [mary mccarthy ] Re: [RS] last fare of the day [Tom Neff ] [RS] Top 20 Hits [Ron Alderfer ] Re: [RS] last fare of the day [Rongrittz@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:31:53 -0400 From: Ron Alderfer Subject: [RS] My feelings on Vuelta well List, here goes nothing..... I've listened to Vuelta about 6 or 7 times now. I do like it; and it does grow stronger with each listen. Richard's guitar work sounds wonderful, as usual. I can't find anything bad to say about it...yet I find myself missing - what? - maybe the intensity of some of the classic songs? I realize that this is a different type of work; and I can and do appreciate the songs for what they are. They are beautiful songs. But so far, I'm not memorizing them, and singing them to myself like I did previously. I'm not jolted upright, or smiling, or crying at the songs like I found myself doing with other songs. Maybe a few more listens are in order.... Ron A ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 00:23:05 GMT From: "ptpowerlists@juno.com" Subject: [RS] Re: There Goes Richard... RockinRon wrote: >>Ultimately, in my view, this is Richard's best record since "Sparrow's Point."<< Richard's got a record called "Sparrow's Point"? Pat [snicker] ________________________________________________________________ Get your name as your email address. Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 17:19:26 -0700 (PDT) From: adam plunkett Subject: Re: [RS] My feelings on Vuelta It happens like that...everyone has different tastes, etc. For instance, I think Richard's weakest album is "Reunion Hill". I believe for most fans it's their favorite. It's all about what grabs you. Speaking that, if Richard were going to release a Best of including 20 tracks, what would everyone put on it....mine: Are You Happy Now? Sparrow's Point Fleur de Lis You Again Summer Wind Cotton Dress Fishing Arrowhead Blue Divide Next Best Western I Saw My Youth Today Reunion Hill Cold Missouri Waters (James Keelaghan) Abuelita Wisteria Transit Sandy (Bruce Springsteen) Che Guevera Shirt There Goes Mavis Last Fare of the Day Grey Green Ron Alderfer wrote: well List, here goes nothing..... I've listened to Vuelta about 6 or 7 times now. I do like it; and it does grow stronger with each listen. Richard's guitar work sounds wonderful, as usual. I can't find anything bad to say about it...yet I find myself missing - what? - maybe the intensity of some of the classic songs? I realize that this is a different type of work; and I can and do appreciate the songs for what they are. They are beautiful songs. But so far, I'm not memorizing them, and singing them to myself like I did previously. I'm not jolted upright, or smiling, or crying at the songs like I found myself doing with other songs. Maybe a few more listens are in order.... Ron A New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 20:25:52 -0400 From: mary mccarthy Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V6 #180 On Sep 2, 2004, at 7:18 PM, shindell-list-digest wrote: > VUELTA track details > > I'm enjoying all the comments about Vuelta and cant yet decide which > track is my favorite. There are quite a few. love the dissonant > guitar on Fenario, the subtle percussion on Mavis. I loved Mavis > the first time I heard him sing it live. ,,, anyone know what tuning > its in? DADGAD? > the only nit-picking complaint I have is that i like to have a > listing of all the instruments and players on each track . but it > appears to have been recorded at many studios? and with scattered > artists, so maybe it was too complicated. and here's dumb question of the day. where/what is Fenario? signed RS freak, mary ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 20:41:48 EDT From: FJPQ@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V6 #180 In a message dated 9/2/2004 8:36:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, marycatz@earthlink.net writes: and here's dumb question of the day. where/what is Fenario? I'm not sure but i think either Scotland or Ireland...I'd love to hear from someone who knows :-) Fran ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 20:50:56 EDT From: FJPQ@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] There Goes Richard... In a message dated 9/2/2004 7:47:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, RockinRonD@aol.com writes: But I still believe "Waist Deep in the Big Muddy" is an odd inclusion. To me it just doesn't fit with the original songs on the record. I think Richard's version of "Big Muddy" really rocks .... and I think this is another point where we all have our own take on things...I think the CD is great but there are tracks I anticipate skipping in the near future...but "Big Muddy" will never be one of them. The sentiment is true to the times and I have to believe that Richard felt deeply about it to include it...but what do I know?! Nothing probably in the end except my own opinion and feelings about it. Pete is the real thing like I believe Richard is the real thing... of course I draw the line there cause if I were to drink carbonated caffeinated beverages, it would have to be Pepsi over Coke any day! :-) Fran :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 18:28:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Christy Thomas Subject: [RS] last fare of the day first off, i LOVE the new album... but i am drawn out of lurker-dom to say i know it was sunny on 9-11, but i've always viewed the cruel rain of the first part of last fare as more artistic expression than pure fact. i've always thought that first cab ride was on 9-11... just my interpretation, of course... tears spring to my eyes when she says she couldn't bear another word as i recall feeling that (for many, many days after 9-11)... tears also spring to my eyes (for obviously different reasons) when the names of the baby are revealed...and i think of all the times i cried in front of my TV watching people pull together in the aftermath of the horror... and now...i have to ask...does anyone else notice the non-rhyming of the chorus "the heavens give...i know it well..." i must say that for some time that has caught my attention...and initially it bothered me...but i think that is exactly what that line HAS to say...and i think every time i listen to the song, i HAVE to hear it... "the heavens give"... both hope AND grace... easy to forget these days (for me anyway)... THANKS RICHARD! for the beautiful album...and the hope and grace you deliver! back to lurking... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 22:39:26 -0400 From: Tom Neff Subject: Re: [RS] last fare of the day - --On Thursday, September 02, 2004 6:28 PM -0700 Christy Thomas wrote: > first off, i LOVE the new album... > > but i am drawn out of lurker-dom to say i know it was > sunny on 9-11, but i've always viewed the cruel rain > of the first part of last fare as more artistic > expression than pure fact. i've always thought that > first cab ride was on 9-11... At Falcon Ridge, Richard said that the first cab ride was about September 17th. That would make sense from my memory of the weather and the (horrible) mood on the street. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 22:44:27 -0400 From: Ron Alderfer Subject: [RS] Top 20 Hits In response to Adam's Top 20 list, here is mine. At least for this evening..... Transit You Stay Here (Sonora EP version) Summer Wind Cotton Dress Are You Happy Now? The Courier Wisteria Abuelita My Love Will Follow You Arrowhead Reunion Hill Castaway Next Best Western Beyond the Iron Gate Cold Missouri Waters Last Fare of the Day Fenario Che Guevera Shirt Hazels' House On a Sea of Fleur-de-Lis Things That I Have Seen Looking down this list, I realize once again that there is no one that does a story song quite like RS. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 01:23:54 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] last fare of the day >> i have to ask...does anyone else notice the non-rhyming of the chorus "the heavens give...i know it well..." i must say that for some time that has caught my attention...and initially it bothered me...but i think that is exactly what that line HAS to say...and i think every time i listen to the song, i HAVE to hear it... << Ya see, as I've been spending way too much time agonizing over a very-difficult-to-write opinion of this record (which may actually wind up stillborn, lest I have to give back my Richard Shindell Decoder Ring), that non-rhyme is one of the things that's going on my "what was he thinking?" list. I didn't like it when I first heard it, and I don't like it now. The non-rhyme, that is, not the song itself, which is probably my all-time favorite song of Richard's. RG ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V6 #181 ***********************************