From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V5 #45 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Monday, March 10 2003 Volume 05 : Number 045 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Fwd: RS shows in Madison, Chicago [Janet Cinelli ] Re: [RS] The Mountain [Rongrittz@aol.com] [RS] Ann Arbor Show, 3/9 [JMoorehous@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 02:52:50 -0800 (PST) From: Janet Cinelli Subject: [RS] Fwd: RS shows in Madison, Chicago for some reason this bounced from the list. I am going to try and send it myself. - --- "Richard W. Samsel" wrote: > From: "Richard W. Samsel" > To: > Subject: RS shows in Madison, Chicago > Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 16:51:55 -0600 > > Janet: > > I tried to post this on the RS group, but it bounced > -- perhaps if you > receive this you could send me the proper address > for the RS list, for > posting. > > Thanks, > > Dick > > _______________ > > > I'm a long-time lurker, first time poster. > > I saw Richard and Tracy in Madison at Luther's Blues > on Friday night and > Chicago at Martyr's on Saturday night. Both were > small clubs. This was the > first time I'd seen Tracy perform since Dave's > passing; she was confident > and able, and gave a wonderful performance. This is > the first time I've > seen Richard since he lost his beard. He was > likewise in excellent form; he > clearly seemed to be enjoying himself. Both nights > were spectacular. I > didn't write anything down at either show, so > anything I have is from > memory. > > Tracy did an opening set, and Richard joined in for > a couple of songs in > Tracy's set. Conversely, Tracy joined in for a few > of Richard's songs. In > addition to Richard and Tracy, there was a bass > guitar player (Byron Isaacs > on a fretless electric bass guitar) who joined in > about 2/3 of the songs in > both sets, and as well as on harmony vocals. He did > a wonderful job on all > the songs he played on. > > Tracy played her CFox guitar for most of her songs, > but switched to the > mandolin or violin on a couple, mostly when Richard > was on Guitar. Richard > played a Martin D15 acoustic exclusively. > > Tracy's set was pretty much the same both nights. > All her songs were Dave > Carter songs, and she told the stories behind the > songs. I'm sure I've > forgotten at least one new song's name, and don't > remember the exact order > except as noted. > > Tracy's set > Gunmetal Eyes (opening; performed solo) > Gentle Arms of Eden > [Hey Ho] (a new song, not yet named, about war, war > toys, and child labor) > The Power and the Glory > The Mountain (a Sumerian conclusion with Richard > and Byron a capella) > Ordinary Town > Gentle Soldier of my Soul (closing) > > Richard's set varied a bit between days. He played > at least 3 new songs, but > I'm only remembering the names of two (Grey-green, a > song about lulling his > child to sleep in noisy Buenos Aries, and Che > Guevara T-Shirt, a stunning > song that you all should hear without reading my > comments). > > Richard's set > Wisteria (Saturday opening) > Sparrow's point (Friday opening) > Reunion Hill (both shows) > Arrowhead (both shows) > The Next Best Western (with Tracy, both shows) > Grey-Green (both shows) > A Che Guevara T-shirt (both shows) > Are you Happy Now? (?both shows) > Fishing (both nights) > Sonora's Death Row (both shows) > Transit (Closing both shows) > > They did one great encore (both shows): > Farewell to St Deloris (Dave Carter) > Richard on lead vocals and > Tracy on mandolin and harmony vocals Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:35:29 -0500 From: "Shelley DePaul" Subject: [RS] The Mountain > > The Mountain (a Sumerian conclusion with Richard > > and Byron a capella) I'm a little curious about this 'Sumerian conclusion' thing. I wonder, what it is? I won't get to see it , I think, since I'll be seeing him with Lucy. (I'd really love to see Tracy but can't make any of those.) Unless they tack it on to something else other than 'The Mountain.' Jim, didn't you mention something about a Sumerian something when you reviewed the Godfrey's show a while back? I'm assuming it might be a little chant or something from "Gilgamesh" maybe where the Scorpion-man speaks to him as he prepares to enter the mountain. Shelley "The Scorpion-man shapes his mouth and speaks, saying to Gilgamesh: 'Never has a mortal man done that, Gilgamesh. Over the mountain, no one has traveled the remote path, for twelve double-hours it takes to reach it's center, and thick is its darkness; there is no light. To the going out of Shamash....(the sun) To the entering in of Shamash... To the entering in of Shamash... I cause to go out... I cause to enter...' .............. The Scorpion-man Shaped his mouth, saying 'Go Gilgamesh the King... Go Gilgamesh; enter into the mountains, the twins... the mountains, hills of Shamash... Go safely... For you the gate of the mountain is open.' Incidentally I'm always amazed at many of the parallels between Sumerian and Lenape mythology. For both the number 'Twelve' and the concept of' 'Twins' are prevalent. (Hope I'm not boring you guys with this. This stuff is an obsession of mine. : ) ) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Cinelli" To: Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:52 AM Subject: [RS] Fwd: RS shows in Madison, Chicago > for some reason this bounced from the list. I am > going to try and send it myself. > > > --- "Richard W. Samsel" > wrote: > > From: "Richard W. Samsel" > > To: > > Subject: RS shows in Madison, Chicago > > Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 16:51:55 -0600 > > > > Janet: > > > > I tried to post this on the RS group, but it bounced > > -- perhaps if you > > receive this you could send me the proper address > > for the RS list, for > > posting. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dick > > > > _______________ > > > > > > I'm a long-time lurker, first time poster. > > > > I saw Richard and Tracy in Madison at Luther's Blues > > on Friday night and > > Chicago at Martyr's on Saturday night. Both were > > small clubs. This was the > > first time I'd seen Tracy perform since Dave's > > passing; she was confident > > and able, and gave a wonderful performance. This is > > the first time I've > > seen Richard since he lost his beard. He was > > likewise in excellent form; he > > clearly seemed to be enjoying himself. Both nights > > were spectacular. I > > didn't write anything down at either show, so > > anything I have is from > > memory. > > > > Tracy did an opening set, and Richard joined in for > > a couple of songs in > > Tracy's set. Conversely, Tracy joined in for a few > > of Richard's songs. In > > addition to Richard and Tracy, there was a bass > > guitar player (Byron Isaacs > > on a fretless electric bass guitar) who joined in > > about 2/3 of the songs in > > both sets, and as well as on harmony vocals. He did > > a wonderful job on all > > the songs he played on. > > > > Tracy played her CFox guitar for most of her songs, > > but switched to the > > mandolin or violin on a couple, mostly when Richard > > was on Guitar. Richard > > played a Martin D15 acoustic exclusively. > > > > Tracy's set was pretty much the same both nights. > > All her songs were Dave > > Carter songs, and she told the stories behind the > > songs. I'm sure I've > > forgotten at least one new song's name, and don't > > remember the exact order > > except as noted. > > > > Tracy's set > > Gunmetal Eyes (opening; performed solo) > > Gentle Arms of Eden > > [Hey Ho] (a new song, not yet named, about war, war > > toys, and child labor) > > The Power and the Glory > > The Mountain (a Sumerian conclusion with Richard > > and Byron a capella) > > Ordinary Town > > Gentle Soldier of my Soul (closing) > > > > Richard's set varied a bit between days. He played > > at least 3 new songs, but > > I'm only remembering the names of two (Grey-green, a > > song about lulling his > > child to sleep in noisy Buenos Aries, and Che > > Guevara T-Shirt, a stunning > > song that you all should hear without reading my > > comments). > > > > Richard's set > > Wisteria (Saturday opening) > > Sparrow's point (Friday opening) > > Reunion Hill (both shows) > > Arrowhead (both shows) > > The Next Best Western (with Tracy, both shows) > > Grey-Green (both shows) > > A Che Guevara T-shirt (both shows) > > Are you Happy Now? (?both shows) > > Fishing (both nights) > > Sonora's Death Row (both shows) > > Transit (Closing both shows) > > > > They did one great encore (both shows): > > Farewell to St Deloris (Dave Carter) > > Richard on lead vocals and > > Tracy on mandolin and harmony vocals > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:49:01 -0500 From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] The Mountain >> I'm a little curious about this 'Sumerian conclusion' thing. I wonder, what it is? << It's actually a harmonized a cappela version of the chant that Dave did under the last verse of the song: da-ri kur-niserin-na, pirin zalag, pirin zalag da-ri kur-niserin-na, dili-du-a, dili-du [endless mountain of cedar trees, forest of light, forest of light endless mountain of cedar trees, i walk alone, i walk alone] RG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:21:26 EST From: JMoorehous@aol.com Subject: [RS] Ann Arbor Show, 3/9 Richard and Tracy were at the Ark last night--good crowd, a fair number of whom seemed to be there for Tracy. The set lists were very like those that have already been reported on this list, so I won't rehash them here. A few notes: * Richard's three new songs were Gray-Green, Che Guevara T-Shirt, and The Last Fare of the Day. All very, very good. * Richard seemed completely at ease and was very funny. He made an outrageous number of mistakes, frequently tuning in the wrong key and then having to retune or forgetting lyrics (only really problematic during Fishing, where the flub was significant enough to rob the song of some of its power). But the mistakes were generally more funny than annoying--and because he was unfazed by them, so was the audience. * Tracy said that a new Dave and Tracy CD is forthcoming, and she may put together a band to record another CD of Dave's songs sometime after that. It sounds like she's found a lot of good unreleased Dave songs on cassette, some dating back to the '80s. Richard hopes his new CD will be out in the fall. * Tracy's portion of the show is as much memorial as it is concert. Dave's musical and personal powers are very much at the forefront of her stage patter, and there's a deeply reverent tone to every invocation of his memory. It didn't bother me, but I can imagine some people in the audience thinking, "enough with what a brilliant/visionary/prophetic guy Dave was already." But I think she's basically working through her grief onstage, and it's not often you have an opportunity to see a performer engaged in such a powerful and personal moment. * Overall, it was a fine show from front to back. But why was the volume so low? I've been to dozens of shows at the Ark, and have never been to one where they simply didn't turn up the sound loud enough. The mix was perfect, but it needed to be kicked up a couple notches to help capture the power these performers and their songs are capable of delivering. Joe Moorehouse ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V5 #45 **********************************