From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V4 #282 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Tuesday, October 22 2002 Volume 04 : Number 282 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Ryan Adams live and a spontaneous Richard-sing ["Emily Johnson" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 06:06:25 -0700 From: "Emily Johnson" Subject: [RS] Ryan Adams live and a spontaneous Richard-sing I saw Ryan Adams perform recently at the 9:30 Club in DC and when someone screamed out "Summer of '69", he didn't even react. Perhaps he was having an exceptionally good night when I saw him? I'd just hate to hear that people are turned off of seeing him live; I thought he was brilliant. Odd, definitely, but an amazing perormer who at various points in the evening made me dance, cry, and want to crawl under my seat (his cover of "Brown Sugar"--CREEPY!). In spite of his tantrums, I'd still recommend him. On a Richard note, at a party the other night at my house, I got to talking to friends of one of my housemates about good music, and of course Richard's name came up. The next thing I know, a guitar has been borrowed and we're singing "The Next Best Western" at 2am in my courtyard. Much fun. Hope everyone survives their Mondays with little pain, Emily Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 05:38:12 -0700 (PDT) From: adam plunkett Subject: Re: [RS] covers I agree with the sentiments about sharing. If we are indeed talking about folk music(I know some people would dispute that fact), its tradition is to be shared - to be carried on in a tradition. In the 1960's, the most popular era for folk music, Arlo Guthrie, Joan Baez, Richie Havens, and Pete Seeger wrote their own material but also did lots of tradtional work and other writers of the time peroid. Traditional music, from America or abroad,is about the passing down the line of the music of a community. And traditional music is beautiful and sometimes its lyrics are be as profound as anything written in the comtemporary times. Also, when an artist puts music on a record, it indirectly means they want to share it. They want other people to hear what they have created. - -Adam - --- Lisa Davis & family wrote: > Restating: Hey, anything that claims to be "folk" > music almost by > definition has to be willing to be / intended to be > shared and > re-interpreted. That's the whole idea! That does > not of course mean > that we the listeners have to like the > reinterpretation. (I think I > rarely do! can't teach an old dog new > tricks........) > > I took the kids to Coney Island this Sunday with a > cousin who lives in > Brooklyn. Up and down the boardwalk thronged with > sweltering hordes > were clusters where karaoke booths had been set up. > These were > similarly thronged with enthusiastic friends > watching these new > "standards" being belted out. Down the boardwalk > further was a group of > Andean musicians playing "El Condor Passa" (is itin > fact trad.? my > cousin asked -- I assume so) and others, with very > few listeners (well > of course they included me!) What struck me was > that the karaoke had a > part of the "folk" experience the Andes music was > lacking -- this sense > of audience participation, being part of the music, > not a separation > between performer and listener. A way for Everyman > to take ownership of > the music and perform, too. Whenever I hear Irish > music and sit solemn > and stiff in my seat, perhaps tapping a foot, > watching politely the jigs > and reels, it always seems so *wrong,* that is not > what that music was > meant to be! > > Of course I preferred the Andean music and I'd > rather have Richard play > in utter silence -- dissolving the distance between > listener and > audience by sheer empathy and absorption. That > isn't necessarily any > the less folk -- no doubt older audiences listened > as raptly to a ballad > sung a capella by a lonely singer. I guess my point > is that *sharing* > is a lot of what the folk music tradition is about. > Whether we like the > product that results or not, that process, that > openness has to be a > part of it. > > Lisa Davis > www.sharinglaw.net. Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V4 #282 ***********************************