From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V4 #214 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Friday, August 2 2002 Volume 04 : Number 214 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Re: [RS] Dave and Tracy/ Richard and Lucy [] RE: [RS] Updated Tour Schedule ["Plunkett, Adam" ] [RS] Re: Reply to Pat [Tom926@aol.com] [RS] Fundraiser ["Kristen Myshrall" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 6:46:28 -0500 From: Subject: Re: Re: [RS] Dave and Tracy/ Richard and Lucy If not toying with perfection were the rule, then no one should ever have covered a Beatle song. I really like to hear "other" interpretations, even if they aren't as good. And look at what you get....the Simon and Garfunkel version of Bleeker Street was definitive for years, but the Jonatha Brooks take on it is very different and awesome in its own right. Joe > > From: TRNMT@aol.com > Date: 2002/07/31 Wed PM 09:26:53 CDT > To: shindell-list@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [RS] Dave and Tracy/ Richard and Lucy > > Norman wrote: > > > I'd love to hear Richard and Lucy cover "Kate and the ghost of lost love." > > It is in the words of Ron G. "the perfect song." > > > > > > Hmmm. I dunno Norman. It is the perfect song done perfectly. Should they > toy with perfection? I think I'd be happy hearing them do Cat Eyed Willie, > another verse swapping song, (there is bloodshed in that, after all) instead. > > > Of course, if they were to do anything, I'm sure I'd love what ever tribute > they offered. > > Nancy (who still can't bring herself to post to the *other* D&T list about > Dave) > > It was a love so big that it filled his heart > 'Til it swelled and finally burst apart > And where the love spilled out they called it art > But he never really had no choice. Buddy Mondlock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:35:33 -0400 From: "Plunkett, Adam" Subject: RE: [RS] Updated Tour Schedule I am off to Newport this weekend. Does anyone know if he's playing with a band or solo? Other people playing Sunday include Bruce Cockburn, Dar Williams, Vance Gilbert, Mark Erelli, and Arlo Gutthrie. Cant wait. This after Falcon Ridge last weekend! :) I wanted to see Dylan there but its sold out. Speaking of covers and if amazing sonsg should be covered, it's a tough one. For example, there are so many Dylan covers out there. I tend to think the best ones are either more lesser known Dylan covers or one that change it around a lot, sometimes by genre. That can show a song's brilliance by showing that it is transcendant of its specific genre. Adam - -----Original Message----- From: Michaela O'Brien To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sent: 7/31/02 10:21 PM Subject: [RS] Updated Tour Schedule Hi all, Sorry for the delay in getting you this information. But here, at last, is an updated Richard tour schedule - including a new show this Friday night (two in fact). Take care, Michaela RICHARD SHINDELL - Tour Schedule *Richard opens for Joan Baez 8/2 The Turning Point, Piermont, NY, 845-359-1089, 7:30&10PM 8/4 Newport Folk Festival, Newport, RI, 401-847-3700 8/8 *Rio Theatre*, Santa Cruz, CA, 831-423-8209 8/10 *Oregon Zoo Amphitheater*, Portland, OR, 503-224-TIXX 8/11 *Athletic Club of Bend*, Bend, OR, 541-388-1800 8/13 *Stewart Park*, Roseburg, OR, 541-673-7000 8/14 *Woodland Park Zoo*, Seattle, WA 8/15 *Mount Baker Theatre*, Bellingham, WA, 360-734-6080 8/17 *Timber Linn Park, Albany, OR 8/18-19 *Van Duzer Theatre*, Arcata, CA, 707-826-3928 8/22 *Laxson Auditorium*, Chico, CA, 530-898-6333 8/23 *Villa Montalvo*, Saratoga, CA, 408-961-5858 8/24 *Analy High Scool Theatre*, Sebastopol, CA, 707-823-1511 8/26 *The Hawkins Ampitheater*, Reno, NV, 775-828-6642 8/28 *Humphrey's Concerts by the Bay*, San Diego, CA, 619-220-8497TM 8/30 *Hiland Theater*, Albuquerque, NM, 505-262-9301 8/31 *Chautauqua Park Aud*, Boulder, CO, 303-545-6924 9/1 *Vilar Center for the Arts*, Beaver Creek, CO, 888-920-2787 9/3 *Red Butte Garden*, Salt Lake City, UT, 801-585-5658 9/4 *The Big Easy*, Boise, ID, 208-367-1212 9/6 *McPherson Playhouse*, Victoria , BC, 250-386-6121 9/7 *Stanley Park*, Vancouver, BC, 604-219-6041 9/13 Berrie Ctr for Perf & Vis Arts, Mahwah, NJ, 201-684-7844 9/14 A Joyful Noise Coffeehouse, Lexington, MA, 781-861-0142 9/15 Gallery In the Park, Sellersville, PA 10/24 The Point, Bryn Mawr, PA, 610-527-0988 10/25 Outpost in the Burbs, Montclair, NJ, 973-744-6560 10/27 Swyer Theater, The Egg, Albany, NY, 518-473-1845 11/1 Westport Arts Center, Westport, CT, 203-222-7070 11/2 Common Fence Point Hall, Portsmouth, RI, 401-683-5085 12/6-7 Emelin Theatre, Mamaronek, NY, 914-698-0098 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:32:25 -0700 From: eric Subject: Re: Re: [RS] Dave and Tracy/ Richard and Lucy Joe wrote: >If not toying with perfection were the rule, then no one should ever have >covered a Beatle song. I really like to hear "other" interpretations, >even if they aren't as good. And look at what you get....the Simon and >Garfunkel version of Bleeker Street was definitive for years, but the >Jonatha Brooks take on it is very different and awesome in its own right. I'm particular to Richard's version :) - - eric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:08:48 EDT From: Tom926@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: Reply to Pat In a message dated 8/1/02 4:56:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org writes: << As tributes go, however, there's but one way to give the song itself its due . . . use the original recording and let the perfection speak for itself. Pat >> Oh Pat, I so completely disagree with you, and I don't even know Dave and Tracy's music. But I do find it rather fascinating that only in pop/rock/folk do you have this moral squeamishness with cover versions. Can you imagine if jazz and classical were like this? That we would have only ONE version say, of Bach's Brandenberg Concertos or ONLY Doris Day singing "My Secret Love." That someone like Diane Krall would be condemned for having the unmitigated gall of daring to put her personal stamp on a song when it already was "perfect" (even though, Pat, what constitutes this perfection or who is determining it). There is a marvelous poem by Marge Piercy I love called "To Be of Use": The people I love the best jump into work head first without dallying in the shallows and swim off with sure strokes almost out of sight. They seem to become natives of that element, the black sleek heads of seals bouncing like half-submerged balls. I love people who harness themselves, an ox to a heavy cart, who pull like water buffalo, with massive patience, who strain in the mud and the muck to move things forward, who do what has to be done, again and again. I want to be with people who submerge in the task, who go into the fields to harvest and work in a row and pass the bags along, who are not parlor generals and field deserters but move in a common rhythm when the food must come in or the fire be put out. The work of the world is common as mud. Botched, it smears the hands, crumbles to dust. But the thing worth doing well done has a shape that satisfies, clean and evident. Greek amphoras for wine or oil, Hopi vases that held corn, are put in museums but you know they were made to be used. The pitcher cries for water to carry and a person for work that is real. We might add: and a song worth hearing cries out for a singer to sing it--not only by the songwriter who wrote it, but by anyone else who can make music with that song. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 21:38:03 -0400 From: "Kristen Myshrall" Subject: [RS] Fundraiser Hi everyone, I'm running a fundraiser for RAINN (the Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network) at the end of this month and as part of it I'm holding an online cd-video "tag sale". The site is www.angelfire.com/folk/lucykaplansky/RAINN.html Also anyone in the Lawrence, KS area that wants to attend the official fundraiser on Aug 24, email me. There will be music, food, a silent auction and more! Tickets are available now! Thanks! Kristen _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V4 #214 ***********************************