From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V4 #100 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Tuesday, March 19 2002 Volume 04 : Number 100 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] calling the moon [jim colbert ] RE: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V4 #96 ["Brian Williamson" ] [RS] Re: Janis Ian [LBECKLAW@aol.com] [RS] janis ian, no rs content [jim colbert ] [RS] covers... [Elwestrand ] [RS] Brandy vs. O Brother [Pfleary@aol.com] [RS] Phone Thingies ["Dave McKay" ] RE: [RS] better than the original ["alan.teather" Subject: [RS] calling the moon > are you kidding?!?!?!?! RS's version of Calling the Moon was strong yes, i > will agree, and woven almost as if it was his own song. but even his folk > magic is NOTHING in comparison to Dar's own original intent. her version of > her own song is perfect. i'm only hoping i don't get my ass kicked for offering this > opinion in Hey, it's been months seen there's been any ass kicking here. (: Like I've said before, we've all got specific likes, dislikes, things that touch some of us more than others, you know? I've never heard dar play CTM live; basing it on the Green World I prefer the Shindell version. I wouldn't argue it's merits; I just like it better. But I also simply prefer Richard to Dar. Doesn't mean I don't like her music or whatever, people don't need to rush to her defense, it's quite simply just that: I prefer Richard in general; I prefer his version of this song in particular. > > > Who is Amy Rigby? She's apparently going to be playing with Richard > when he comes to Santa Monica in May. Has anyone here heard her > before? Yes, she opened for Richard last year at Godfrey Daniels, the day his CFox died... so he borrowed her Guild for his songs in standard tuning. Quite enjoyable opening act. I think Tom might be the resident expert here- ? Jim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:06:23 -0500 From: "Brian Williamson" Subject: RE: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V4 #96 Where is the Maniacs' version of Hello In There recorded? (which CD). - -----Original Message----- From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org]On Behalf Of jenncc@mindspring.com Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 6:36 PM To: shindell-list@smoe.org Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V4 #96 "Cold Missouri Waters". I've heard James K. sing it. Very good but Richard's is much better. I've got to go with Norman on this one too! Also like Richard's version of Calling The Moon better. I like 10,000 Maniacs version of Hello In There over John Prine's. I recently heard Rose Polenzani cover Here I Go Again by Whitesnake. Rose turned it into a beautiful sort of country ballad that was just heart wrenching. REM's cover of Wichita Skyline over original. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:28:11 EST From: LBECKLAW@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: under the covers To jump into the fray and answer my own question: I prefer Eva Cassady's "Fields of Gold" to Sting's (quel sacrilege!) I prefer Lucy Kaplansky's "Broken Things" to Julie Miller's (sacrilege #2) I prefer Cry Cry Cry's "Mary M" to Richard's (uh oh, better run for cover) Whoever wrote here that most covers of Dylan songs are better than the original--so true! Although I love Dylan as a songwriter/poet, I've seen him in concert twice and thought he sounded like he'd inhaled helium. A while back I saw a concert at Madison Square Garden in NYC where everyone showed up to pay tribute to Bob, and sang his songs--that's where I realized his stuff was better covered by just about anybody else. At the recent Joan B./Richard concert I went to, I thought Joan did a great version of "Baby Blue," even to the point of a killer imitation of "Bobby." Has Richard S. ever covered Dylan, d'ya know? Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:08:10 -0500 From: jim colbert Subject: [RS] fields of gold Laura said: To jump into the fray and answer my own question: I prefer Eva Cassady's "Fields of Gold" to Sting's (quel sacrilege!) To which I must add: Oh yes! I hadn't thought about that choice. The Eva version, to me, defines "definitive!" If that isn't somehow redundant redundant. What a gorgeous, gorgeous voice and arrangement. The microphone absolutely loved her... Oh, to be a singer. The only description that I can ever think of to describe that version is "achingly beautiful." I prefer the C3 version of Mary M. to richard's original studio version, but I like the way he does it now better than either. jim colbert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:07:37 EST From: LBECKLAW@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: Janis Ian Funny, I've never heard "Jesse" sung by Joan B. But the other night, I had the good fortune to see Janis Ian sing at a fairly small but non-intimate venue in Westport, CT--okay, it was a school gym, okay? I wasn't that excited about going to this concert, only recalling maybe 1 or 2 songs I knew, and those brought back bad flashbacks of sitting miserably in my room at age 13 or 14, brooding and writing bad haiku while listening to "At 17" or "Society's Child." Anyway, I thought she played a great show, and that her guitar-playing was exemplary. Even tho' she didn't cover any Richard, she should and could do. I was thinking maybe "Mary Magdalene" and "Nora" for starters; it'd have to be pretty angst-filled to fit the bill. Many of her songs are drifting towards more country-western, since she moved to Nashville. I like "Jolene" and "Boots like Emmy Lou," both very Loretta-ish. Sorry to take up so much non Richard space here... Laura P.S. On the subject of kids liking Richard's music, mine really connect to his sense of humor and play, especially in "AYHN" and "Next Best Western." Then again, they really like Raffi, Brittney Spears and Smashmouth too. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:26:23 -0500 From: jim colbert Subject: [RS] janis ian, no rs content I must confess I am really not in touch with Janis Ian's music, but her column in performing songwriter magazine is often worth the price of the magazine alone. jpc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:51:32 -0500 From: Elwestrand Subject: [RS] covers... What's more sacriligeous than prefering Lucy to Julie Miller singing "Broken Things?" Preferring the Williams Brothers singing Broken Things. Two men with beautiful voices singing there little broken hearts out. Ahhhh. I prefer Dar's Ocean to anyone's, especially the recent version on Out There Live - I consider that the standout track on that album. I prefer RS's Calling the Moon. I have discussed before why I like the original Cold Missouri Waters. I especially like when James K does it live and tacks on Shenandoah. Not a dry eye in the house. Here's a weird one. Anyone else heard Robby Robertson's version of his song Broken Arrow? So much better than that Scottish guy's. You can just hear his heart breaking. Doesn't hurt that his version has Terry Bozio, Peter Gabriel and Daniel Lanois. I will have to hear Eva Cassidy's version of Fields of Gold. I adore Sting (swoon,swoon), but that song has always felt to me like something he wrote on the back of a cocktail napkin in an airport bar. Just doesn't speak to me. He seems to recently feel like he has to write some "epic" love song on each album whether he feels it or not. IMHO of course. E "Can you see what I see Can you cut behind the mystery, I will meet you by the witness tree, Leave the whole world behind." Robbie Robertson Broken Arrow ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:17:19 EST From: Pfleary@aol.com Subject: [RS] Brandy vs. O Brother Thought this headline and first sentence from a 3/15 SonicNet Music article was particularly notable given the RS vs. Britney Spears thread here on this list. >>Brandy Blocked From #1 Slot By 'O Brother' Soundtrack: >>The man of constant sorrow should have plenty of cause to celebrate, though >>Brandy might be kind of crabby. After 63 weeks on the Billboard 200 albums >>chart, the "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" soundtrack will levitate to #1, beating out >>the R&B crooner, who seemed headed for a chart-topping debut. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:36:37 -0000 From: "Dave McKay" Subject: [RS] Phone Thingies Howie, after wiping out 73.24% of Shindell List subscribers with his cardiac-arrest-inducing URL, further damaged his reputation with: > Here in the US we have the phone booth. In the UK they have the phone > box. Or so they tell me (they being the two people still talking to me at > all without the use of attorneys). To complicate matters even more, British Telecom Payphones, who have 141 000 of the things throughout the UK, call them "kiosks"! http://www.payphones.bt.com/2001/about/education/menu.html Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:35:37 -0000 From: "alan.teather" Subject: RE: [RS] better than the original Any song written by Elton John and sung by anyone else ! Alan Who do you know who would like some extra income now the credit cards are biting? Have them email me for details. Laura wrote: >> Can anyone think of a song written and performed by one singer, but that is better when sung by another? (as in better than the original version)? << ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V4 #100 ***********************************