From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V4 #80 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Thursday, March 7 2002 Volume 04 : Number 080 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] lines i think are funny [Jennifer Coia ] [RS] Courier Track Listing on Amazon ["Andrew Bonime" ] [RS] yep [jim colbert ] Re: [RS] chortles and guffaws [TRNMT@aol.com] Re: [RS] chortles and guffaws ["Andrew Bonime" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 09:15:21 +0000 From: Jennifer Coia Subject: [RS] lines i think are funny jim wrote: anyway, you might want to clarify just what parts of the song are being referred to... there are lines I don't think are necessarily amusing. (Of course, "flipping the bird" usually always makes me chuckle, whether it's robert earl or richard!) jim..this might require that I re write the lyrics, but part of the humor is indeed that which elicits recognizable laughter..that combined with the very earnest and somber sound of the music that lays as a backdrop to this song..kind of sets a very serious tone, as he joins two types of prisoners through the nun who gets a flat... I also think Richard's dead pan delivery of some of the lines add to the humor.. ""the rest were just touchy as hell" "the all news station was thanking someone for the call" "there's a nun out there changing a tire" You know, I am listening to the song and I could just write most of the lyrics to exemplify why I think it's funny. The song conjures up some images that I think are very funny...Is the idea that these people let rage overcome them so that they missed their exits and ended up in the Delwater Gap funny? No. But it is in the sense of laughing at ourselves for letting anger for something we can't control take over us. I think Transit looks at the situation from an overhead perspective and it's the looking at it from the outside that makes it seem humorous, because we can all recognize it as a situation that is not at all funny to be in. Minsi and Tammany..the hills on either side of I-80 when you enter the DelWater Gap. ok enough about why I think it's funny. have a good one, everyone. jc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:37:41 -0500 From: "Andrew Bonime" Subject: [RS] Courier Track Listing on Amazon Has anybody checked the track listing for The Courier on Amazon? The samples are out of sync with the listing and I think the listing itself is mostly incorrect (I don't have The Courier yet - it's on order). Has anyone at Y/H Management or the label notified Amazon? It is important that this gets corrected - it is how I discovered RS. Please accept my apologies if this has already been discussed - I'm new here. Andy ======================= Andrew Bonime 212.697.2561 917.692.1220 (cell) andrew@bonime.com www.bonime.com www.cloudshine.com www.chudfacts.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 17:02:12 -0500 From: jim colbert Subject: [RS] yep a different jc answered: Minsi and Tammany..the hills on either side of I-80 when you enter the DelWater Gap. Exactamundo, as the fonz used to say! jc, one of the other ones ( I know there's at least three of us...) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:17:27 EST From: TRNMT@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] chortles and guffaws In a message dated 3/5/02 4:53:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, jcolb@barashgroup.com writes: > This song is nothing but funny! I am not sure where you are from, but if > you've ever > experienced NJ traffic, you might also find it funny. > > > > Isn't the New Jersey driving motto "you gotta laugh sometimes cause you > just can't shoot > EVERYONE?!" (It's not? Oh, never mind.) > > Actually, I thought the NJ motto was either "Welcome to NJ, now go home" or "Eat $#!* and die" ( I always get that confused with "Live free or die" - sorry ... NH?). I was at the Morristown show as my sister Fran duly noted, and felt kinda weird about the laughs for any of Richard's songs. Maybe it's because I don't find Transit to be funny, nor The Ballad of MM. In fact, they both make me a bit weepy. Transit, because of the human condition he's singing about - and, hey ... I drive home every day on Route 3 in NJ; some days I'm civil, somedays I should be sent to the Watergap (or re-routed into the Meadowlands to join Jimmy Hoffa, etc.) I don't think it's a funny song because it hits too close. There's that whole thing we don't *get* about forgiveness. How can the prisoners be forgiven while all these other people get sent to who knows where? TBofMM, I don't find to be a knee-slapper, either. It's a love song. "His career or mine," may be a way to get the listener's attention, but I don't think it's meant to be funny. Really, it's kind of tragic, since she's left this profession that supported her for a better way, and now her savior is gone from this earthly existence. And anyway, doesn't RS say he gravitates to those "mining disaster" songs?? So, in Morristown last week, he sounded great, but looked tired. Fran and I had 5th row center seats (got 'em last September...can't believe I could remember the "safe" place I put them). I don't know that his guitar was ever properly amplified during Joan's set, nor was his mic at times. Nice to hear Sing Me Back Home with the full group. Would like to have heard RS sing the harmony on If I Wrote You, instead of Tracy. And, as I posted on D&T's list, there should be a law that only Lucy Kaplansky can sing harmony on Next Best Western. Anybody hear Richard this am on FUV? I caught some of it, but not all. Putting my wet blanket back in storage for the moment, Nancy T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 22:48:01 -0500 From: "Andrew Bonime" Subject: Re: [RS] chortles and guffaws That's the brilliance of RS: To some there's humor, to others, it's tragic. To yet others it's a little bit of both. It all depends on your perspective and your mood at the time. Andy Bonime - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [RS] chortles and guffaws > In a message dated 3/5/02 4:53:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jcolb@barashgroup.com writes: > > > > This song is nothing but funny! I am not sure where you are from, but if > > you've ever > > experienced NJ traffic, you might also find it funny. > > > > > > > > Isn't the New Jersey driving motto "you gotta laugh sometimes cause you > > just can't shoot > > EVERYONE?!" (It's not? Oh, never mind.) > > > > > > Actually, I thought the NJ motto was either "Welcome to NJ, now go home" or > "Eat $#!* and die" ( I always get that confused with "Live free or die" - > sorry ... NH?). I was at the Morristown show as my sister Fran duly noted, > and felt kinda weird about the laughs for any of Richard's songs. Maybe it's > because I don't find Transit to be funny, nor The Ballad of MM. In fact, > they both make me a bit weepy. Transit, because of the human condition he's > singing about - and, hey ... I drive home every day on Route 3 in NJ; some > days I'm civil, somedays I should be sent to the Watergap (or re-routed into > the Meadowlands to join Jimmy Hoffa, etc.) I don't think it's a funny song > because it hits too close. There's that whole thing we don't *get* about > forgiveness. How can the prisoners be forgiven while all these other people > get sent to who knows where? > > TBofMM, I don't find to be a knee-slapper, either. It's a love song. "His > career or mine," may be a way to get the listener's attention, but I don't > think it's meant to be funny. Really, it's kind of tragic, since she's left > this profession that supported her for a better way, and now her savior is > gone from this earthly existence. > > And anyway, doesn't RS say he gravitates to those "mining disaster" songs?? > > So, in Morristown last week, he sounded great, but looked tired. Fran and I > had 5th row center seats (got 'em last September...can't believe I could > remember the "safe" place I put them). I don't know that his guitar was ever > properly amplified during Joan's set, nor was his mic at times. Nice to hear > Sing Me Back Home with the full group. Would like to have heard RS sing the > harmony on If I Wrote You, instead of Tracy. And, as I posted on D&T's list, > there should be a law that only Lucy Kaplansky can sing harmony on Next Best > Western. > > Anybody hear Richard this am on FUV? I caught some of it, but not all. > > Putting my wet blanket back in storage for the moment, > Nancy T ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V4 #80 **********************************